14 Years ago a Time Traveler Warned us of a Nuclear War with Russia in 2015

a reply to: Jenisiz

Hello baseless off topic statement. Seriously, what does that have to do with anything?

originally posted by: raymundoko
a reply to: Jenisiz

Hello baseless off topic statement. Seriously, what does that have to do with anything?

Quite a bit. You're gonna put any weight in what the Vatican and Pope say/believe when they're only out for their own agenda. How can they take time to prophesies when they're too busy covering up for child molesters? Didn't prophesies that one did they?

a reply to: Jenisiz

Where did I say I put weight in it. I just posted a link to an article and summed it up in one line...

Your statements are still off topic and have nothing whatsoever to do with anything in this thread. The pope, who is a new pope relatively speaking, made no prophecy. He simply made an observation of current world affairs.

a reply to: raymundoko

Your inability to follow along isn't very advanced is it? You interjected yourself in my reply to someone else's.

originally posted by: GargIndia
a reply to: raymundoko

It is predicted Vatican will be destroyed in WWIII. (Likely nuclear strike)

Let's see if this prediction come through.

Likely the Pope knows about the prediction too.

a reply to: Jenisiz

Your inability to even comprehend what you write is baffling.

Your inability to follow along isn't very advanced is it?

I want you to read your question and think about it. Think hard.

GargIndia was referring to JOHN TITOR's prediction. The Pope has made zero predictions.

originally posted by: GargIndia
a reply to: raymundoko

Likely the Pope knows about the prediction too.

I'm lost then...because I read this and was responding to it AND the fact that recent articles posted on ATS suggest they believe we are starting ww3.

a reply to: OccamsRazor04

Ur a witness to it and ask where it is?

originally posted by: OccamsRazor04
a reply to: METACOMET

Where is the American Federal Empire? Doesn't exist? Because it's all crap.

Ur a witness to it and u ask where it is? Damn.

originally posted by: Gyo01

originally posted by: OccamsRazor04
a reply to: METACOMET

Where is the American Federal Empire? Doesn't exist? Because it's all crap.

Ur a witness to it and u ask where it is? Damn.

Can you tell me where on a map I can see this American Federal Empire, because it doesn't exist. You are clearly a troll.

www.dailymail.co.uk...

Former Soviet leader Mikhail Gorbachev warned that tensions between Russia and European powers over the Ukraine crisis could result in a major conflict or even nuclear war, in an interview to appear in a German news magazine on Saturday. "A war of this kind would unavoidably lead to a nuclear war," the 1990 Nobel Peace Prize winner told Der Spiegel news magazine, according to excerpts released on Friday.

"We won't survive the coming years if someone loses their nerve in this overheated situation," added Gorbachev, 83. "This is not something I'm saying thoughtlessly. I am extremely concerned." "The new Germany wants to intervene everywhere," he said in the interview. "In Germany evidently there are a lot of people who want to help create a new division in Europe."

Happy 2015 ATS

originally posted by: OccamsRazor04
a reply to: METACOMET

Where is the American Federal Empire? Doesn't exist? Because it's all crap.

It's not actually all crap. The time travel bits, yeh, sure.
The nuclear war bits, probably, but who knows what will happen in the future. We certainly have enough nukes on this earth to do plenty of damage to our selves and the planet.

The stuff about governments spying on us, freedoms and civil liberties being eroded, are you going to say that's a lie too?
How about the poisoned food? Genetically modified crops, crops sprayed with pesticides and god knows what other poisons.
People becoming infertile, birth rates dropping. That's why we have IVF methods, which either don't work and cost people tens of thousands of dollars(never mind the emotional cost), or people end up with twins and triplets quite often.

You don't need to be a time traveler to know about those things.
Because those things have been happening for MANY years now, and many people knew about those things but were called crazy and conspiracy theorists and nutjobs and all sorts of things like that.
Now these things are coming out into the main stream. And funnily enough most people are still oblivious to the fact our governments are spying on us.


Humanity deserves what ever ill fate awaits us, because too many of us are ignorant and willfully so.
Most people will not stand up and speak up for what is right and point out what is wrong. Those who do are called racists, bigots, etc. Same treatment that conspiracy theorists got years and years ago, is what people who aren't politically correct are getting now.


The world, including humanity, is sick. It's sick because we've made it sick.
We can fix it without wiping our selves out of existence. But we probably will fix it by wiping our selves out first and then letting mother nature mop up the mess over time as the planet recovers.

Mmm just maybe I am John Titor.
I proclaimed all kind of hoaxes, because you can only travel back in time if you don't change the past.
Being aware of that I did give away some hints on time machine mechanisms.
They are mere inspirational and I had to do this because oddly that is how they were dicovered.
The time mechanisme discovered itself.
If you know what I mean.
This post to stir up waning interest.
I had to learn this post letter by letter. Even the spelling error above needs to be there.
O yeah and this is a troll.
Have a nice day.

originally posted by: mortex
It's not actually all crap. The time travel bits, yeh, sure.

That makes it all crap. If I tell you I am from the future and here is the winning lottery numbery ... 1, 5, 7, 10, 13, 29

And one of those numbers is right, that doesn't change the fact my entire STORY was crap, and a lie.

originally posted by: OccamsRazor04

originally posted by: mortex
It's not actually all crap. The time travel bits, yeh, sure.

That makes it all crap. If I tell you I am from the future and here is the winning lottery numbery ... 1, 5, 7, 10, 13, 29

And one of those numbers is right, that doesn't change the fact my entire STORY was crap, and a lie.

You obviously did not comprehend what I said, so don't sit there and give me some stupid analogy.


The time travel bits are clearly bs. Unless someone can prove otherwise? No? Then bs.
What reason could that person have had for including that bs in the stories he told? Who knows, maybe there was a reason, maybe there wasn't.

Did he not say that tensions between certain countries, named countries, would increase, etc etc? Yes?
And what's happening now? That exact thing he said would.
I haven't read the stories in detail, nor do I care to ever do so. We all know the gist of it all though, more or less.

What this person obviously did back then, was look at what was going on with the world. What the world powers were up to. He pieced together a likely scenario for the near future.

Some of the scenario he put together is panning out.

He isn't a time traveler, he isn't a seer of the future.

IMHO, he was simply someone, or a group, of intelligent people, who took what was happening in the world, the developments in certain countries, and came up with a likely scenario. John Titor isn't the only one to come up with likely scenarios for the near future, based on the current status quo and developments in the world.
He is probably the most notorious though for claiming time travel though. Hence he stands out to people like you.


Now this being a conspiracy website, and many believing in the Illumanit and New World Order, and the Illuminati card game that allegedly predicts future events before they happen, or as most claim warns of pre-planned events that the Illumanit/NWO will carry out against the world's population, maybe John Titor is a code word, and maybe what he claims is a text based version of the illumanit card game. Maybe it's a warning from the "enlightened" ones, for other people of the same kind, or same status or whatever.

Personally I think it's just an intelligent person or group of people, who came up with a logical scenario based on current events and geopolitical developments and trends.
With the amount of nuclear weapons the US and Russia have, with them being geopolitical rivals...gee, you don't have to be a time traveler to come up with a scenario where these two super powers engage in a nuclear war.

The fabric that has held the peace(of sorts, save for the proxy wars) between the world powers since the end of WW2, is being eroded and it's been happening since the end of the Cold War if not during it.

With continued American NATO expansion, ie military deployment, ie encirclment of Russia, right up to Russia's borders, a geopolitical development and trend, and with Russia's position on this development as an act of aggression, with Russia's elite power brokers of the strong opinion that the USA has the goal of dismantling Russia....gee, I WONDER WHERE THIS SCENARIO IS LEADING TO..


There's dozens of think tanks in the world whose job it is to come up with these scenarios and the armed forces of these countries actively PREPARE for these scenarios.

Keep focusing on the BS part about the time traveling. Be a sheep, allow your self to be lead to the slaughter.

The first thing when I saw Putin I thought he's the guy that will use nukes/start a nuclear war.
Then after his term I was glad I was wrong but then he was suddenly again elected!. With the recent world evenings happening and with Putin still in the saddle, with his country suffering from a financial war....
And knowing Putin loves Russia soooo much, I do see it as a good possibility that he could do this, maybe he thinks since he believes (and most russian's) the US/NATO want control of Russia and knowing a ground war wouldn't do much, the only change is going all nuclear to win from this threat.

When I first heard of this Titor many years ago I didn't believe in nuclear war with Russia since the relations with Europe where very good (not really good with the US but there was progress).

So this year, well we wait and see, to be sure I better do some things I enjoy!

And how sad this may be if true I also thinks this is a solution but a horrible one for the many and more problems we face.. time for a big reset or something.

originally posted by: OccamsRazor04

originally posted by: mortex
It's not actually all crap. The time travel bits, yeh, sure.

That makes it all crap. If I tell you I am from the future and here is the winning lottery numbery ... 1, 5, 7, 10, 13, 29

And one of those numbers is right, that doesn't change the fact my entire STORY was crap, and a lie.

Or "9, 13, 37, 39, 41, 45."

I was wondering when ATS would start carrying the story.


That's another reason we can't pull this out of the HOAX bin, Titor could be an assassin.

We

might adversely affect the fate of the future. I mean, his next victim might be the mother of the daughter whose son invents the time machine. Then the son goes back in time and changes world history and then Columbus never discovers America, man never lands on the moon, the U.S. never invades Grenada...

originally posted by: mortex
Did he not say that tensions between certain countries, named countries, would increase, etc etc? Yes?
And what's happening now? That exact thing he said would.
I haven't read the stories in detail, nor do I care to ever do so. We all know the gist of it all though, more or less.

No, clearly you don't. Anyone with 2 brain cells could have guessed almost everything he said that came true. Most of what he said is junk, and not just the time travel bits. Did America have a civil war and split up into different countries? No? Then more than just the time travel bits is junk.

What this person obviously did back then, was look at what was going on with the world. What the world powers were up to. He pieced together a likely scenario for the near future.

Some of the scenario he put together is panning out.

So he made a bunch of guesses, and a few were right. That's exactly what I said. The story is complete crap, and full of guesses which some had a high chance of success. It's a common trick. You start with something believable in order to disguise the unbelievable. Saying 1+1=2 and being right doesn't mean my fringe math of saying 3+3 = 99 is then true, and 1+1 being true does not lend credence to me.

IMHO, he was simply someone, or a group, of intelligent people, who took what was happening in the world, the developments in certain countries, and came up with a likely scenario. John Titor isn't the only one to come up with likely scenarios for the near future, based on the current status quo and developments in the world.
He is probably the most notorious though for claiming time travel though. Hence he stands out to people like you.

He was a hoaxer having fun with people because he knew there are people who would believe his/her ridiculous story.

Knowing the date and which cities are hit and not telling people is the same as doing it himself. It's all BS. Just like 2012 and all the rest of the doomporn.
a reply to: METACOMET

John's nuclear exchange prediction seems more and more likely as each day passes....scary. I'm sure the day will come and pass without any nukes flying...but still makes ya' think...

If 2015 comes and goes like any other year, or heaven forbid, actually be a good year, will this put an end to the time traveling theory once and for all?