Gov. Jay Nixon signs exec. order to send Missouri National Guard to Ferguson

a reply to: FreeQuebec86

Ahh, okay, gotcha! I haven't been watching the CNN feed so I had no idea.
I've had a few drinks myself, if you'll excuse my impaired judgment. Water under the bridge, eh?

What time is the press conference happening? Anyone know?

originally posted by: 00nunya00
a reply to: OptimusCrime

Try your link again, that's just a "news" page. :/

It's funny because the exact thing you said, which was "so long as you are not obstructing LEO from doing their jobs", is exactly what that quote is saying. They told him to leave, he didn't, they keep having to waste time clearing the area, which he wouldn't leave. He's interfering with them doing their job. Plain and simple, I'm just giving you the facts of what happened and if you don't like it, don't argue with me, write your congressman.

I've been wondering about what time the press conference is supposed to start to.

Last night, they started it at 1am, and it's now 1:25am. I think they were a little late last night, but Im not sure what they're doing now. Those National Guard guys in the background look like they're tired as heck to, they've been standing there since the first streamers arrived tonight.

ETA - Same with the guy standing next to the microphones. He's been standing in one place the entire time.

originally posted by: OptimusCrime

originally posted by: 00nunya00
a reply to: OptimusCrime

Try your link again, that's just a "news" page. :/

It's funny because the exact thing you said, which was "so long as you are not obstructing LEO from doing their jobs", is exactly what that quote is saying. They told him to leave, he didn't, they keep having to waste time clearing the area, which he wouldn't leave. He's interfering with them doing their job. Plain and simple, I'm just giving you the facts of what happened and if you don't like it, don't argue with me, write your congressman.

Let me quote my edited reply to you and ask AGAIN for your *direct link* and court quote that supports your point.

I edited: "just because some reporters retreat when they get scared, doesn't mean that's what they LEGALLY have to do. Just because LEO says "leave" doesn't mean that's LEGAL for them to order the press to do.

Again, please, quote that supports your claim these press people tonight were breaking any laws or didn't have the right to stay when not obstructing justice."

Staying on-scene and keeping a camera on is NOT obstructing justice. Press may be a PITA for LEO, but if they're not INTERFERING with LEO arresting people or protecting people (specifically, not just "we need you to leave because we don't like cameras while we stand on a street corner") then they're legal.

originally posted by: 00nunya00

originally posted by: OptimusCrime

originally posted by: 00nunya00
a reply to: OptimusCrime

Try your link again, that's just a "news" page. :/

It's funny because the exact thing you said, which was "so long as you are not obstructing LEO from doing their jobs", is exactly what that quote is saying. They told him to leave, he didn't, they keep having to waste time clearing the area, which he wouldn't leave. He's interfering with them doing their job. Plain and simple, I'm just giving you the facts of what happened and if you don't like it, don't argue with me, write your congressman.

Let me quote my edited reply to you and ask AGAIN for your *direct link* and court quote that supports your point.

I edited: "just because some reporters retreat when they get scared, doesn't mean that's what they LEGALLY have to do. Just because LEO says "leave" doesn't mean that's LEGAL for them to order the press to do.

Again, please, quote that supports your claim these press people tonight were breaking any laws or didn't have the right to stay when not obstructing justice."

Staying on-scene and keeping a camera on is NOT obstructing justice. Press may be a PITA for LEO, but if they're not INTERFERING with LEO arresting people or protecting people (specifically, not just "we need you to leave because we don't like cameras while we stand on a street corner") then they're legal.

Wrong, they were clearing the area after shots fired and protesters where heading out. You could hear the police on the bullhorns warning everyone multiple times, not just the reporters, they had to head to their designated areas and this one decided not to. I don't have to quote anything again, as I already have from a respectable source. Like I said, write your congressman.

originally posted by: OptimusCrime

originally posted by: 00nunya00

originally posted by: OptimusCrime

originally posted by: 00nunya00
a reply to: OptimusCrime

Try your link again, that's just a "news" page. :/

It's funny because the exact thing you said, which was "so long as you are not obstructing LEO from doing their jobs", is exactly what that quote is saying. They told him to leave, he didn't, they keep having to waste time clearing the area, which he wouldn't leave. He's interfering with them doing their job. Plain and simple, I'm just giving you the facts of what happened and if you don't like it, don't argue with me, write your congressman.

Let me quote my edited reply to you and ask AGAIN for your *direct link* and court quote that supports your point.

I edited: "just because some reporters retreat when they get scared, doesn't mean that's what they LEGALLY have to do. Just because LEO says "leave" doesn't mean that's LEGAL for them to order the press to do.

Again, please, quote that supports your claim these press people tonight were breaking any laws or didn't have the right to stay when not obstructing justice."

Staying on-scene and keeping a camera on is NOT obstructing justice. Press may be a PITA for LEO, but if they're not INTERFERING with LEO arresting people or protecting people (specifically, not just "we need you to leave because we don't like cameras while we stand on a street corner") then they're legal.

Wrong, they were clearing the area after shots fired and protesters where heading out. You could hear the police on the bullhorns warning everyone multiple times, not just the reporters, they had to head to their designated areas and this one decided not to. I don't have to quote anything again, as I already have from a respectable source. Like I said, write your congressman.

We are not talking about Tim Pool running when live shots were fired, we are talking about the local FOX reporter getting arrested after 60 seconds of not moving fast enough for the LEO at the end of the night, remember? And no, you LINKED a "news" page with multiple recent events reports, not a court case or anything specific that supports your point. Try again.

CNN nothing, no time telling for the press conference, they will show it live when it happen.

And im watching CNN on tv, dont know if they got a stream, surely %?

originally posted by: 00nunya00

originally posted by: OptimusCrime

originally posted by: 00nunya00

originally posted by: OptimusCrime

originally posted by: 00nunya00
a reply to: OptimusCrime

Try your link again, that's just a "news" page. :/

It's funny because the exact thing you said, which was "so long as you are not obstructing LEO from doing their jobs", is exactly what that quote is saying. They told him to leave, he didn't, they keep having to waste time clearing the area, which he wouldn't leave. He's interfering with them doing their job. Plain and simple, I'm just giving you the facts of what happened and if you don't like it, don't argue with me, write your congressman.

Let me quote my edited reply to you and ask AGAIN for your *direct link* and court quote that supports your point.

I edited: "just because some reporters retreat when they get scared, doesn't mean that's what they LEGALLY have to do. Just because LEO says "leave" doesn't mean that's LEGAL for them to order the press to do.

Again, please, quote that supports your claim these press people tonight were breaking any laws or didn't have the right to stay when not obstructing justice."

Staying on-scene and keeping a camera on is NOT obstructing justice. Press may be a PITA for LEO, but if they're not INTERFERING with LEO arresting people or protecting people (specifically, not just "we need you to leave because we don't like cameras while we stand on a street corner") then they're legal.

Wrong, they were clearing the area after shots fired and protesters where heading out. You could hear the police on the bullhorns warning everyone multiple times, not just the reporters, they had to head to their designated areas and this one decided not to. I don't have to quote anything again, as I already have from a respectable source. Like I said, write your congressman.

We are not talking about Tim Pool running when live shots were fired, we are talking about the local FOX reporter getting arrested after 60 seconds of not moving fast enough for the LEO at the end of the night, remember? And no, you quoted a "news" page with multiple recent events reports, not a court case or anything specific that supports your point. Try again.

I know exactly what I'm talking about. I watched the same thing you did. The police where clearing the area after the trouble started as it was getting late, the protesters where encouraged to head home and the reports the same. This guy didn't so you go to jail. Sorry. You can find it yourself, it's there. You probably won't want to because it's easier to bug me in order to try and prove your point, but it's there. Just because you don't like the outcome of something doesn't mean a thing. The guy got caught after he was told to leave. Sorry, that's what it is.

originally posted by: FreeQuebec86
CNN nothing, no time telling for the press conference, they will show it live when it happen.

And im watching CNN on tv, dont know if they got a stream, surely %?

They do have an internet live stream, but you have to log in with your cable-company login to access it, so might as well just watch on TV and keep the computer free.

originally posted by: 00nunya00

originally posted by: OptimusCrime

originally posted by: 00nunya00

originally posted by: OptimusCrime

originally posted by: 00nunya00
a reply to: OptimusCrime

Try your link again, that's just a "news" page. :/

It's funny because the exact thing you said, which was "so long as you are not obstructing LEO from doing their jobs", is exactly what that quote is saying. They told him to leave, he didn't, they keep having to waste time clearing the area, which he wouldn't leave. He's interfering with them doing their job. Plain and simple, I'm just giving you the facts of what happened and if you don't like it, don't argue with me, write your congressman.

Let me quote my edited reply to you and ask AGAIN for your *direct link* and court quote that supports your point.

I edited: "just because some reporters retreat when they get scared, doesn't mean that's what they LEGALLY have to do. Just because LEO says "leave" doesn't mean that's LEGAL for them to order the press to do.

Again, please, quote that supports your claim these press people tonight were breaking any laws or didn't have the right to stay when not obstructing justice."

Staying on-scene and keeping a camera on is NOT obstructing justice. Press may be a PITA for LEO, but if they're not INTERFERING with LEO arresting people or protecting people (specifically, not just "we need you to leave because we don't like cameras while we stand on a street corner") then they're legal.

Wrong, they were clearing the area after shots fired and protesters where heading out. You could hear the police on the bullhorns warning everyone multiple times, not just the reporters, they had to head to their designated areas and this one decided not to. I don't have to quote anything again, as I already have from a respectable source. Like I said, write your congressman.

We are not talking about Tim Pool running when live shots were fired, we are talking about the local FOX reporter getting arrested after 60 seconds of not moving fast enough for the LEO at the end of the night, remember? And no, you LINKED a "news" page with multiple recent events reports, not a court case or anything specific that supports your point. Try again.

I don't think he got arrested, he got back in his car and shut off his feed.

I think they would have said something on their stream from their other reporters...and I didn't hear anything.

originally posted by: OptimusCrime

originally posted by: 00nunya00

originally posted by: OptimusCrime

originally posted by: 00nunya00

originally posted by: OptimusCrime

originally posted by: 00nunya00
a reply to: OptimusCrime

Try your link again, that's just a "news" page. :/

It's funny because the exact thing you said, which was "so long as you are not obstructing LEO from doing their jobs", is exactly what that quote is saying. They told him to leave, he didn't, they keep having to waste time clearing the area, which he wouldn't leave. He's interfering with them doing their job. Plain and simple, I'm just giving you the facts of what happened and if you don't like it, don't argue with me, write your congressman.

Let me quote my edited reply to you and ask AGAIN for your *direct link* and court quote that supports your point.

I edited: "just because some reporters retreat when they get scared, doesn't mean that's what they LEGALLY have to do. Just because LEO says "leave" doesn't mean that's LEGAL for them to order the press to do.

Again, please, quote that supports your claim these press people tonight were breaking any laws or didn't have the right to stay when not obstructing justice."

Staying on-scene and keeping a camera on is NOT obstructing justice. Press may be a PITA for LEO, but if they're not INTERFERING with LEO arresting people or protecting people (specifically, not just "we need you to leave because we don't like cameras while we stand on a street corner") then they're legal.

Wrong, they were clearing the area after shots fired and protesters where heading out. You could hear the police on the bullhorns warning everyone multiple times, not just the reporters, they had to head to their designated areas and this one decided not to. I don't have to quote anything again, as I already have from a respectable source. Like I said, write your congressman.

We are not talking about Tim Pool running when live shots were fired, we are talking about the local FOX reporter getting arrested after 60 seconds of not moving fast enough for the LEO at the end of the night, remember? And no, you quoted a "news" page with multiple recent events reports, not a court case or anything specific that supports your point. Try again.

I know exactly what I'm talking about. I watched the same thing you did. The police where clearing the area after the trouble started as it was getting late, the protesters where encouraged to head home and the reports the same. This guy didn't so you go to jail. Sorry. You can find it yourself, it's there. You probably won't want to because it's easier to bug me in order to try and prove your point, but it's there. Just because you don't like the outcome of something doesn't mean a thing. The guy got caught after he was told to leave. Sorry, that's what it is.

Sorry, but when you make a claim on this board, it's up to YOU to link and quote and prove your point, not tell others to do YOUR OWN research for YOU. Link, quote, and then we'll talk. Otherwise, have a good night.

originally posted by: kruphix

originally posted by: 00nunya00

originally posted by: OptimusCrime

originally posted by: 00nunya00

originally posted by: OptimusCrime

originally posted by: 00nunya00
a reply to: OptimusCrime

Try your link again, that's just a "news" page. :/

It's funny because the exact thing you said, which was "so long as you are not obstructing LEO from doing their jobs", is exactly what that quote is saying. They told him to leave, he didn't, they keep having to waste time clearing the area, which he wouldn't leave. He's interfering with them doing their job. Plain and simple, I'm just giving you the facts of what happened and if you don't like it, don't argue with me, write your congressman.

Let me quote my edited reply to you and ask AGAIN for your *direct link* and court quote that supports your point.

I edited: "just because some reporters retreat when they get scared, doesn't mean that's what they LEGALLY have to do. Just because LEO says "leave" doesn't mean that's LEGAL for them to order the press to do.

Again, please, quote that supports your claim these press people tonight were breaking any laws or didn't have the right to stay when not obstructing justice."

Staying on-scene and keeping a camera on is NOT obstructing justice. Press may be a PITA for LEO, but if they're not INTERFERING with LEO arresting people or protecting people (specifically, not just "we need you to leave because we don't like cameras while we stand on a street corner") then they're legal.

Wrong, they were clearing the area after shots fired and protesters where heading out. You could hear the police on the bullhorns warning everyone multiple times, not just the reporters, they had to head to their designated areas and this one decided not to. I don't have to quote anything again, as I already have from a respectable source. Like I said, write your congressman.

We are not talking about Tim Pool running when live shots were fired, we are talking about the local FOX reporter getting arrested after 60 seconds of not moving fast enough for the LEO at the end of the night, remember? And no, you LINKED a "news" page with multiple recent events reports, not a court case or anything specific that supports your point. Try again.

I don't think he got arrested, he got back in his car and shut off his feed.

I think they would have said something on their stream from their other reporters...and I didn't hear anything.

There were three credentialed press in the car, the driver/narrator got out and so did one other, one stayed inside, the driver/narrator got back in and said "well, [soandso] just got arrested." Then the feed cut to another live shot of a reporter in a suit after about 30 seconds.

originally posted by: WhiteAlice
Also very good article on Washington Post right now on the subject of the diversity of who is in the streets:

Ferguson Protesters: The peaceful, the elders, the looters and the militants

Thanks for the link. Interesting indeed. I see they asked about the identity of those arrested for looting.

Ferguson police officials would not quantify how many looters have been arrested since the Brown shooting but presented a Washington Post reporter with a stack of roughly 50 arrest reports. While some of those arrested for stealing are from Ferguson, a large number have addresses listed in Illinois or in Texas.

Now the next question is: How many of them have records of previous thefts/looting, etc.? How many are gang members? Who were they in communication with via their phones and social networks. I'll bet the NSA could give us all these answers...and perhaps the police already have them. Maybe that's why they convinced the governor to declare an emergency.....just typing as the thoughts come...

originally posted by: FreeQuebec86
CNN nothing, no time telling for the press conference, they will show it live when it happen.

And im watching CNN on tv, dont know if they got a stream, surely %?

Ummm, there's a journalist who didn't make it out of there apparently

Our photographer @zianizami was hit by canister on arm. @bellevillenewsd #Ferguson

They circled us, shot tear gas. We're in bushes. Street we needed to get to car was blocked off by officers in armed vehicles. #Ferguson

twitter.com...

I've seen a few kind of disturbing tweets. Tim Pool suggested another twitter but this one, the person was traceable to an established paper and is a journalist for them.

Police scanner just reported shots fired somewhere near Northwinds Estates Dr, plus a fire

originally posted by: 00nunya00

originally posted by: OptimusCrime

originally posted by: 00nunya00

originally posted by: OptimusCrime

originally posted by: 00nunya00

originally posted by: OptimusCrime

originally posted by: 00nunya00
a reply to: OptimusCrime

Try your link again, that's just a "news" page. :/

It's funny because the exact thing you said, which was "so long as you are not obstructing LEO from doing their jobs", is exactly what that quote is saying. They told him to leave, he didn't, they keep having to waste time clearing the area, which he wouldn't leave. He's interfering with them doing their job. Plain and simple, I'm just giving you the facts of what happened and if you don't like it, don't argue with me, write your congressman.

Let me quote my edited reply to you and ask AGAIN for your *direct link* and court quote that supports your point.

I edited: "just because some reporters retreat when they get scared, doesn't mean that's what they LEGALLY have to do. Just because LEO says "leave" doesn't mean that's LEGAL for them to order the press to do.

Again, please, quote that supports your claim these press people tonight were breaking any laws or didn't have the right to stay when not obstructing justice."

Staying on-scene and keeping a camera on is NOT obstructing justice. Press may be a PITA for LEO, but if they're not INTERFERING with LEO arresting people or protecting people (specifically, not just "we need you to leave because we don't like cameras while we stand on a street corner") then they're legal.

Wrong, they were clearing the area after shots fired and protesters where heading out. You could hear the police on the bullhorns warning everyone multiple times, not just the reporters, they had to head to their designated areas and this one decided not to. I don't have to quote anything again, as I already have from a respectable source. Like I said, write your congressman.

We are not talking about Tim Pool running when live shots were fired, we are talking about the local FOX reporter getting arrested after 60 seconds of not moving fast enough for the LEO at the end of the night, remember? And no, you quoted a "news" page with multiple recent events reports, not a court case or anything specific that supports your point. Try again.

I know exactly what I'm talking about. I watched the same thing you did. The police where clearing the area after the trouble started as it was getting late, the protesters where encouraged to head home and the reports the same. This guy didn't so you go to jail. Sorry. You can find it yourself, it's there. You probably won't want to because it's easier to bug me in order to try and prove your point, but it's there. Just because you don't like the outcome of something doesn't mean a thing. The guy got caught after he was told to leave. Sorry, that's what it is.

Sorry, but when you make a claim on this board, it's up to YOU to link and quote and prove your point, not tell others to do YOUR OWN research for YOU. Link, quote, and then we'll talk. Otherwise, have a good night.

I'll provide it later, it's in my history somewhere while researching this topic. Not tonight, I'm out. But I'll make sure to get on here tomorrow and link it just for you.

Media is not immune from the laws.

originally posted by: OptimusCrime

originally posted by: 00nunya00

originally posted by: OptimusCrime

originally posted by: 00nunya00

originally posted by: OptimusCrime

originally posted by: 00nunya00

originally posted by: OptimusCrime

originally posted by: 00nunya00
a reply to: OptimusCrime

Try your link again, that's just a "news" page. :/

It's funny because the exact thing you said, which was "so long as you are not obstructing LEO from doing their jobs", is exactly what that quote is saying. They told him to leave, he didn't, they keep having to waste time clearing the area, which he wouldn't leave. He's interfering with them doing their job. Plain and simple, I'm just giving you the facts of what happened and if you don't like it, don't argue with me, write your congressman.

Let me quote my edited reply to you and ask AGAIN for your *direct link* and court quote that supports your point.

I edited: "just because some reporters retreat when they get scared, doesn't mean that's what they LEGALLY have to do. Just because LEO says "leave" doesn't mean that's LEGAL for them to order the press to do.

Again, please, quote that supports your claim these press people tonight were breaking any laws or didn't have the right to stay when not obstructing justice."

Staying on-scene and keeping a camera on is NOT obstructing justice. Press may be a PITA for LEO, but if they're not INTERFERING with LEO arresting people or protecting people (specifically, not just "we need you to leave because we don't like cameras while we stand on a street corner") then they're legal.

Wrong, they were clearing the area after shots fired and protesters where heading out. You could hear the police on the bullhorns warning everyone multiple times, not just the reporters, they had to head to their designated areas and this one decided not to. I don't have to quote anything again, as I already have from a respectable source. Like I said, write your congressman.

We are not talking about Tim Pool running when live shots were fired, we are talking about the local FOX reporter getting arrested after 60 seconds of not moving fast enough for the LEO at the end of the night, remember? And no, you quoted a "news" page with multiple recent events reports, not a court case or anything specific that supports your point. Try again.

I know exactly what I'm talking about. I watched the same thing you did. The police where clearing the area after the trouble started as it was getting late, the protesters where encouraged to head home and the reports the same. This guy didn't so you go to jail. Sorry. You can find it yourself, it's there. You probably won't want to because it's easier to bug me in order to try and prove your point, but it's there. Just because you don't like the outcome of something doesn't mean a thing. The guy got caught after he was told to leave. Sorry, that's what it is.

Sorry, but when you make a claim on this board, it's up to YOU to link and quote and prove your point, not tell others to do YOUR OWN research for YOU. Link, quote, and then we'll talk. Otherwise, have a good night.

I'll provide it later, it's in my history somewhere while researching this topic. Not tonight, I'm out. But I'll make sure to get on here tomorrow and link it just for you.

I won't hold my breath, but please U2U me the link to your post when you do. Thanks.

originally posted by: 00nunya00

originally posted by: kruphix

originally posted by: 00nunya00

originally posted by: OptimusCrime

originally posted by: 00nunya00

originally posted by: OptimusCrime

originally posted by: 00nunya00
a reply to: OptimusCrime

Try your link again, that's just a "news" page. :/

It's funny because the exact thing you said, which was "so long as you are not obstructing LEO from doing their jobs", is exactly what that quote is saying. They told him to leave, he didn't, they keep having to waste time clearing the area, which he wouldn't leave. He's interfering with them doing their job. Plain and simple, I'm just giving you the facts of what happened and if you don't like it, don't argue with me, write your congressman.

Let me quote my edited reply to you and ask AGAIN for your *direct link* and court quote that supports your point.

I edited: "just because some reporters retreat when they get scared, doesn't mean that's what they LEGALLY have to do. Just because LEO says "leave" doesn't mean that's LEGAL for them to order the press to do.

Again, please, quote that supports your claim these press people tonight were breaking any laws or didn't have the right to stay when not obstructing justice."

Staying on-scene and keeping a camera on is NOT obstructing justice. Press may be a PITA for LEO, but if they're not INTERFERING with LEO arresting people or protecting people (specifically, not just "we need you to leave because we don't like cameras while we stand on a street corner") then they're legal.

Wrong, they were clearing the area after shots fired and protesters where heading out. You could hear the police on the bullhorns warning everyone multiple times, not just the reporters, they had to head to their designated areas and this one decided not to. I don't have to quote anything again, as I already have from a respectable source. Like I said, write your congressman.

We are not talking about Tim Pool running when live shots were fired, we are talking about the local FOX reporter getting arrested after 60 seconds of not moving fast enough for the LEO at the end of the night, remember? And no, you LINKED a "news" page with multiple recent events reports, not a court case or anything specific that supports your point. Try again.

I don't think he got arrested, he got back in his car and shut off his feed.

I think they would have said something on their stream from their other reporters...and I didn't hear anything.

There were three credentialed press in the car, the driver/narrator got out and so did one other, one stayed inside, the driver/narrator got back in and said "well, [soandso] just got arrested." Then the feed cut to another live shot of a reporter in a suit after about 30 seconds.

That is not what I heard...they were all laughing asking if he was starting trouble.

I heard him say something like "well, just about got arrested".

Do you have a video of the stream? Do you have a link where FOX2 confirms one of their guys got arrested?

a reply to: 00nunya00

Just found this tweet from Fox2...he wasn't arrested, just detained and apparently released since he is posting pictures to twitter.

twitter.com...