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In his office about 600 feet from the crash site Jester thought the shaking and loud noise was caused by a heavy load of furniture on a pallet rolling over an uneven expansion joint. He heard someone yell, "We've been hit!" His first thought was "No, not here. It can't happen here:' He looked out the window, saw
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smoke, ran down the stairs to the Communications Center, and shouted, "Get a camera up there!" Some of the center's eight monitor screens mounted on a wall remained blank because the crash had destroyed the camera nearest the impact site and cut connectivity to others. .(11)
One monitor came on automatically, showing debris and doors blown off their hinges in Corridor 5. Officer Jesse DeVaughn brought up an image from a camera at the Navy Annex that had zoomed in on the roiling red flames and smoke. Nesbitt thought he was looking at the nearby gas station on South Joyce Street, so when he called to notify the Arlington County Fire Department of reports that a plane had hit the Pentagon, he also reported a fire at the gas station.
Nesbitt then refocused the Annex camera to clearly show a normal gas station scene and the blaze at the Pentagon.(12)
Flight 77 struck the west side of the Pentagon at the 1st Floor level just inside Wedge 1 near the 4th Corridor and proceeded diagonally at an approximate 42* angle toward the 5th Corridor in the mostly vacant and unrenovated Wedge 2. After the nose of the plane hit the Pentagon a huge fireball burst upward and rose 200 feet above the roof. Multiple explosions occurred as the plane smashed through the building. The front part of the relatively weak fuselage disintegrated, but the mid-section and tail-end continued moving for another fraction of a second, progressively destroying segments of the building further inward. The chain of destruction resulted in parts of the plane ending up inside the Pentagon in reverse of the order they had entered it, with the tail-end of the airliner penetrating the greatest distance into the building. Remarkably, these circumstances meant that the bodies of the passengers in the rear of the aircraft traveled deeper into the ground floor of the building than did those in the front. The largest concentration of body parts was found at the deepest area of penetration-the C Ring. (23)
Page 285/320 : note 11. Interv Jester, 19 Oct 01, 3-4 (quotes); interv Nesbitt, 19Jun 06, 2-3. Some of the cameras at the Pentagon were inoperable because of construction work. See interv Austin and Pennington, 9 Nov 06, 11, 20.
Both officers swore they had seen Flight 77 fly very low, to the North of that CITGO gas station...and I still believe their recollection of what they saw passing by, to the North of them, is true in their mind. After you have watched those interviews, you can't doubt them.
originally posted by: samkent
a reply to: LaBTop
Both officers swore they had seen Flight 77 fly very low, to the North of that CITGO gas station...and I still believe their recollection of what they saw passing by, to the North of them, is true in their mind. After you have watched those interviews, you can't doubt them.
Does any of their reports tell you exactly where their feet were planted when they saw the plane?
The discrepancies could all be from visual perspective.
Lets say you are exactly south of Citgo.
Then you see a plane exactly north of you.
The plane's position could be between you and Citgo. South of Citgo.
The plane's position could be the other side of Citgo. North of Citgo.
It's all perspective.
That's why investigators use physical evidence.
Not pseudo science.
The story... There's something very strange about the way the Pentagon lawn was speedily covered with sand and gravel after the attack. What were they trying to cover up?
Our take... The November 2001 edition of Civil Engineering Magazine explains all: Ed Pickens, the senior construction scheduler:
"On that first day we discussed with the FBI where to place the dumpsters needed to cart away debris. We discovered, however, that the dumpsters had to be brand new because the debris was evidence and could not be contaminated in any way. So we had to deliver numerous new dumpsters to the site immediately. And then I informed the FBI that we were going to have to build a road for the trucks carrying the debris because the ground around the heliport—the area closest to the blast—was too soft. The FBI authorized construction of the road, and I called a contractor, who got the gravel, and we got things moving" www.pubs.asce.org...
The conspiracy just started with these eyewitnesses!
who cares if this one dude got the flight path wrong?
CIT have a number of independent and impartial eyewitness accounts which have yet to be shown to be false (and debunking by sticking your fingers in your ears and braying like a mule doesn't come close) indicating that the official story is a load of baloney, also indicating that there is no way that the flight could have come in on the official flightpath, therefore also indicating that there was nothing heading at a trajectory that would hit these light-poles, therefore leading to the very reasonable conclusion that the 'light-pole damage' was staged.
So if you believe the flight path could not have been in-line with the light poles, please explain the damage to the poles.
1. I firmly believe a plane impacted the Pentagon, but not at the official angle of 60.25° true north. It must have been more towards an 80° to 90° angle.
2. I also believe that it is not too far fetched that a monstrous military apparatus aided by numerous agencies which were threatened with enormous cuts in their trillions of dollars heavy annual budgets for several years already, will indirectly hit back on those who they deem responsible for the endangering of their inherent murderous military species its existence.
3. I believe a powerful faction of that huge military hit back on the politicians who decided to cut their "allowances", and consequently, their might and power and influence. And how do you do that? By freaking their backbone, the US voters, into an all out bloodthirsty revenge and war hunger.
Bomb their biggest symbols. Use patsies to execute it. Northwood style.
4. We will always be divided in three parts, the Truthers, the Trusters and the Undecided.
And it is a constant struggle by both two T-parties, to win the souls of the undecided.
I'm not here to win souls, the historical truth is of my main importance.
I found 3 of these VDOT trailers, one parked behind a dirt mount aside Route 27, and two along lanes leading to Route 27, in immediate aftermath photos of the Pentagon attack.
Not one was seen, in photos taken by satellites in the days before, in the same spots. That's curious.
3. The downed light poles at the Pentagon were staged in advance ...
posted by LaBTop.
Yet you think they got people to climb light poles to sever them at the correct height, in incognito?
originally posted by: LaBTop
No, they would option to first remove those poles on an earlier date by a confiscated VDOT truck, and replace them with new ones. Then severe their tops in their secret shop with a fast circular moving blunt instrument that has the form of a wingtip.
Then bring them back the early morning of 9/11, when it is still dark, to their designated spots, lay them in position to be found on 9/11 after 09:38 a.m., and remove the new ones and take those back to their shop.
Thus, there are now 5 already precut lamp poles laying in the grass, and no poles on those 5 spots. Who would ever notice that in those few hours before Flight 77 impacted.
And the first cut lamp post, presumably catapulted through the taxi driver's car's front window, has been quickly carried from his hidden location behind that bridge rim, to its photographed place beside that taxi and white car.
Which by the way clearly was an entry hole made by detcord inside a water backed thin plastic mold.
reply to post by snowcrash911
Not really "fluttering"
See the plane 'fluttering'
The blue line on the graphic, as charted, represents the vertical 'g'-forces. Any pilot knows (well, except those at the "other" site....LOL) that you can exert momentary g-forces just by application of the controls....the elevators, in the manner of vertical 'g's......a lousy and abrupt pilot, on the controls, can make the "ride" very uncomfortable.....which is what is indicated in that DFDR tracing graph.
Professionals try to make it "smooth"......compared to a hack like Hani Hanjour.....he just wanted to hit his "target".....didn't care about "finesse" in the process...nor "passenger comfort"....
[edit] the "pulling" of almost two 'g's on the graph just shows he leveled, aggressively, a descent...OR was also aggressive on the controls, in the vertical axis. The time frame, on the bottom, shows the brief fractions of seconds, and the vertical g's underwent......[end/edit]
--snip--
edit on Tue 3 January 2012 by ProudBird because: (no reason given)
With apologies to ProudBird, I think that is fluttering of the tail surface, as well. That is too rapid to be be Pilot Induced Oscillations (PIO). There was an earlier period where he did get into a PIO, but not this. He simply could not move the controls rapidly enough to produce that. Fluttering due to the excessive speed is my call....