Blacklight Power Sues Wiki Trolls

originally posted by: AnarchoCapitalist

originally posted by: ScepticScot
a reply to: [post=18283479]AnarchoCapitalist[/post
Aren't those all articles by mills himself? How does that substantiate his claims?

They were all published in peer reviewed journals.

As were countless papers on the standard model - which you insist doesn't work? So is publication verification that the theory is correct?

originally posted by: Hanslune
a reply to: AnarchoCapitalist

Not until the defense asks for independent verification that the process works....then what happens? lol

It all boils down to this, Mills needs to produce a workable unit using his theory.

They bring out the numerous university professors who replicated Mills findings in their own labs.

originally posted by: Hanslune

originally posted by: AnarchoCapitalist

originally posted by: ScepticScot
a reply to: [post=18283479]AnarchoCapitalist[/post
Aren't those all articles by mills himself? How does that substantiate his claims?

They were all published in peer reviewed journals.

As were countless papers on the standard model - which you insist doesn't work? So is publication verification that the theory is correct?

It's not about theory, it's about what Mills can experimentally demonstrate.

Mills theory could be completely wrong, but that doesn't constitute fraud.

a reply to: AnarchoCapitalist
Mills can make any claim he likes and it is not fraud. However if he is using false claims to raise funds that is fraud. Forget about the science that is irrelevant, can he produce what he claims. The evidence seems to be no.

originally posted by: AnarchoCapitalist

originally posted by: Hanslune
a reply to: AnarchoCapitalist

Not until the defense asks for independent verification that the process works....then what happens? lol

It all boils down to this, Mills needs to produce a workable unit using his theory.

They bring out the numerous university professors who replicated Mills findings in their own labs.

Nope, then all you have is a PH.d fighting over theory. Mill needs to produce a workable power unit using his theory

originally posted by: ScepticScot
a reply to: AnarchoCapitalist
Mills can make any claim he likes and it is not fraud. However if he is using false claims to raise funds that is fraud. Forget about the science that is irrelevant, can he produce what he claims. The evidence seems to be no.

Perhaps you missed the last 3 pages of this conversation where I listed numerous peer-reviewed publications and independent university lab test reports.

originally posted by: AnarchoCapitalist

originally posted by: Hanslune

originally posted by: AnarchoCapitalist

originally posted by: ScepticScot
a reply to: [post=18283479]AnarchoCapitalist[/post
Aren't those all articles by mills himself? How does that substantiate his claims?

They were all published in peer reviewed journals.

As were countless papers on the standard model - which you insist doesn't work? So is publication verification that the theory is correct?

It's not about theory, it's about what Mills can experimentally demonstrate.

Mills theory could be completely wrong, but that doesn't constitute fraud.

It is if he says he is having success, that his process works and will produce a workable, useable power unit in the future - to date he has not.

a reply to: AnarchoCapitalist

You listed papers written by Mills (not independent) but you've yet to list these "independent university lab test reports" on anything other than BLP's website. Show us the money already.

originally posted by: Hanslune

originally posted by: AnarchoCapitalist

originally posted by: Hanslune
a reply to: AnarchoCapitalist

Not until the defense asks for independent verification that the process works....then what happens? lol

It all boils down to this, Mills needs to produce a workable unit using his theory.

They bring out the numerous university professors who replicated Mills findings in their own labs.

Nope, then all you have is a PH.d fighting over theory. Mill needs to produce a workable power unit using his theory

Nope, it's not about theory at all.

It's about the independent lab test results.

Mills has a long list of PhDs who tested his process and found it to be legitimate.

The people claiming fraud have no one who has actually tested his process.

A jury isn't going to care about theory, they are going to care about the test results.

originally posted by: AnarchoCapitalist

originally posted by: ScepticScot
a reply to: AnarchoCapitalist
Mills can make any claim he likes and it is not fraud. However if he is using false claims to raise funds that is fraud. Forget about the science that is irrelevant, can he produce what he claims. The evidence seems to be no.

Perhaps you missed the last 3 pages of this conversation where I listed numerous peer-reviewed publications and independent university lab test reports.

By Mills himself and the Independent Uni are by individuals from those places which looked at single processes and which have not been verified by others nor published.

Not good enough.

originally posted by: AnarchoCapitalist

originally posted by: Hanslune

originally posted by: AnarchoCapitalist

originally posted by: Hanslune
a reply to: AnarchoCapitalist

Not until the defense asks for independent verification that the process works....then what happens? lol

It all boils down to this, Mills needs to produce a workable unit using his theory.

They bring out the numerous university professors who replicated Mills findings in their own labs.

Nope, then all you have is a PH.d fighting over theory. Mill needs to produce a workable power unit using his theory

Nope, it's not about theory at all.

It's about the independent lab test results.

Mills has a long list of PhDs who tested his process and found it to be legitimate.

The people claiming fraud have no one who has actually tested his process.

A jury isn't going to care about theory, they are going to care about the test results.

That's not what I said, I'll repeat

ITS NOT ABOUT THEORY, or tests or statements, or claims but about ACTUAL production of a workable power unit after 23 years of claiming to have one

Is that clear now? lol

originally posted by: GetHyped
a reply to: AnarchoCapitalist

You listed papers written by Mills (not independent) but you've yet to list these "independent university lab test reports" on anything other than BLP's website. Show us the money already.

A jury isn't going to care where they were published. They are going to care if the lab tests were carried out in an scientific and independent manner.

A jury isn't going to be composed of people who think like you do. It's going to be composed of average people who have no bias towards the standard model one way or the other. They are going to look at the parade of PhDs who actually tested Mills process and found it to be legitimate.

a reply to: AnarchoCapitalist
Haven't missed it because hasn't happened. Independent verification of his results please?

originally posted by: Hanslune

originally posted by: AnarchoCapitalist

originally posted by: Hanslune

originally posted by: AnarchoCapitalist

originally posted by: Hanslune
a reply to: AnarchoCapitalist

Not until the defense asks for independent verification that the process works....then what happens? lol

It all boils down to this, Mills needs to produce a workable unit using his theory.

They bring out the numerous university professors who replicated Mills findings in their own labs.

Nope, then all you have is a PH.d fighting over theory. Mill needs to produce a workable power unit using his theory

Nope, it's not about theory at all.

It's about the independent lab test results.

Mills has a long list of PhDs who tested his process and found it to be legitimate.

The people claiming fraud have no one who has actually tested his process.

A jury isn't going to care about theory, they are going to care about the test results.

That's not what I said, I'll repeat

ITS NOT ABOUT THEORY, or tests or statements, or claims but about ACTUAL production of a workable power unit after 23 years of claiming to have one

Is that clear now? lol

Yeah, and I'm asserting that simply because Mills doesn't have a working prototype for the SunCell yet, that doesn't constitute fraud.

Mills has working CIHT Cells, and host of independent lab tests that support his claims about the SunCell. To prove fraud, the accusers have to demonstrate those are lies. Of course, this is impossible since they have no one who has actually tested Mills process and found it to be fraudulent.

a reply to: AnarchoCapitalist

Erm... BLP have made tangible claims about actual working models, not just some esoteric hypothesis. Where's this independent lab validation already?


Edit: are you shilling for BLP?

originally posted by: GetHyped
a reply to: AnarchoCapitalist

Erm... BLP have made tangible claims about actual working models, not just some esoteric hypothesis. Where's this independent lab validation already?


Edit: are you shilling for BLP?

Mills has working CIHT Cells.

He never claimed to have working SunCells yet.

No, I'm not shilling, I'm just enjoying all the standard model people having a hissy fit over this. I think the standard model is a joke.

originally posted by: AnarchoCapitalist


No, I'm not shilling, I'm just enjoying all the standard model people having a hissy fit over this. I think the standard model is a joke.

.....but but but you just posted earlier a claim that Mills papers are published and asserting that made them 'real' but thousands of standard model papers have also been published - so doesn't that make them real too?

lol

originally posted by: GetHyped
a reply to: AnarchoCapitalist

Edit: are you shilling for BLP?

I'm glad someone else got a whiff of that too. Seriously AnarchoCapitalist, are YOU Mills himself?

Got tired of pedaling your lies in the MSM, so you decided to fire up an account on ATS, eh?

originally posted by: Hanslune
a reply to: MysterX

Agreed but why do they always say they have produced workable models- that never show up?

I would be thrilled to see such a tech but after so many years and the layers of deceit by Mills its a little hard to take him seriously.

As noted, at what point - how many years - does one wait for verification?

I suspect "they will be on the verge of completion" until Mill dies, at which the whole thing will collapse. I await to be shown wrong and be amazed by the new tech.

I feel the same way..well a similar way to you.

I too wish this technology, if workable, could have been released to the world yesterday..or decades ago even, but when we're talking about a technology that would have such far reaching and dramatic implications for not only the corporate parties that would have an intense interest in devices that could upset their corporate apple cart forever, and profoundly affect politics and political institutions, scientific and academic institutions and throw a great big chunk of dogma out of the window...there's bound to be a LOT more going on than just the technology.

I'd imagine the words 'National security' and 'warning' and possibly 'when the time is right' have been mentioned more than once in these cases.

Personally, i'm surprised dodgy porn or creative tax accounting accusations (etc.) have not been flung around as yet...which could indicate BP is playing ball and doing as they're told.

It could also mean they are not really as far along as they claim, and not particularly 'dangerous', but multiple PhD's from multiple Universities making positive claims as to BP's devices are compelling and since none of those institutions are suing BP for libel or false representation or even ordering a simple retraction, it looks like they did actually say what BP say they said.

If they didn't, surely they would be jumping up and down screaming that it's a fraud from the rooftops of their respective Universities...and nobody is doing that afaik.

But i do understand your point of view and yes, we've heard all this before. Hopefully, BLP is going to be the exception. I would also like to see a working unit, or see one thoroughly and openly tested by trusted and independent parties.

That would put all the doubts to rest one way or the other.

a reply to: MysterX

If this was real a large corporation would license it and go into production. They are in the business of making money and a great deal of money could be made from this. Governments with energy problems would also jump on this, but they don't.

CT aside if I was the management of a large corp I set up a subsidiary, invest in it and say to hell with the existing corp. That a Chinese corp has not done that says legions.

As for Mills - he is going to have to come up with something real at some point......however believers will be touting him for a long time, he'll become a future Tesla figure......who the CT will claim had 'the answer' but was done in by the evil PTB......