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originally posted by: jholt5638
a reply to: kruphix
Ben Franklin would disagree
"Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety."
Statement On The False Arrest Of Reporters Ryan Reilly And Wesley Lowery
Ryan Grim 08/13/14 11:11 PM ET
We are relieved Ryan Reilly and Wesley Lowery are safe, but we are disturbed by their arrest and assault.
Ryan was working on his laptop in a McDonald's near the protests in Ferguson, MO, when police barged in, armed with high-powered weapons, and began clearing the restaurant. Ryan photographed the intrusion, and police demanded his ID in response. Ryan, as is his right, declined to provide it. He proceeded to pack up his belongings, but was subsequently arrested for not packing up fast enough. Both Ryan and Wesley were assaulted.
Compared to some others who have come into contact with the police department, they came out relatively unscathed, but that in no way excuses the false arrest or the militant aggression toward these journalists. Ryan, who has reported multiple times from Guantanamo Bay, said that the police resembled soldiers more than officers, and treated those inside the McDonald's as "enemy combatants." Police militarization has been among the most consequential and unnoticed developments of our time, and it is now beginning to affect press freedom.
-- Ryan Grim, Huffington Post Washington Bureau Chief
originally posted by: FraggleRock
a reply to: kruphix
Not forgetting anything. I can tell the difference between a peaceful protest and riots. My neighbor breaking the law doesn't make me a criminal. We've got police firing tear gas at people in their own yards and arresting journalists. Are you going to tell me that's acceptable conduct because some other people caused destruction and did some looting the previous night?
a reply to: kicked
this has gone beyond anything that can be defined as a "Peaceful Protest vs the Police." There has been geographical blocking of twitter, which is censorship. Members of the media have been fired upon and have been asked to stop reporting on this issue. A crowd of protesters with their arms in the air were fired upon by both rubber bullets and tear gas. A no fly zone has been imposed over the area.
Police should respond. But not in this magnitude.
originally posted by: kruphix
originally posted by: FraggleRock
a reply to: kruphix
Not forgetting anything. I can tell the difference between a peaceful protest and riots. My neighbor breaking the law doesn't make me a criminal. We've got police firing tear gas at people in their own yards and arresting journalists. Are you going to tell me that's acceptable conduct because some other people caused destruction and did some looting the previous night?
I am saying the root cause of all these events are the protestors who have rioted and looted the past two nights and then have come out AGAIN a third night in a row.
The protestors have fled INTO the neighborhoods...they keep gathering inside the neighborhoods.
Journalists aren't immune to being arrested, no one has all the details of any of the arrests...but disobeying a police officer is enough to get you arrested.
Bottom line is that the actions tonight have been caused by the protestors...they wanted this confrontation and they got it...so why cry about it?
originally posted by: Domo1
a reply to: SkepticOverlord
I think those are pretty old
This one?
Here drink a beer and go to bed.
originally posted by: kruphix
a reply to: thirdcoast
Police should respond. But not in this magnitude.
So exactly how should they respond when you have crowds of 100+ gathered that have been known to riot and loot while being armed for the past two nights?
Then, what do you expect them to do when bottles and other items start being thrown at them from that crowd?