Ebola Patient in Atlanta Hospital

Nevermind, old article, oops! My apologies.

a reply to: 00nunya00

Isn't that from 2012?

Fox 5 just said there was over 30 additional police/FBI that were not visible on the journey from Dobbins because of threats. Bomb squad swept Emory before her arrival.

Sim said they and the CDC are currently in Liberia trying to figure out how Nancy got it because they said she had no direct contact and followed all protocol.

Also showed the signs that are in place at Hartsfield now, said if customs agents suspect you are sick, you will be placed in quarantine.

Also surprising, they said the blood sample from New York won't be at the CDC for testing until tomorrow, something about them just using normal carriers like ups.

originally posted by: loam
a reply to: 00nunya00

Isn't that from 2012?

DOH! Lol, you're right, my bad. Didn't even check the date. [blush] Editing now

originally posted by: Zebra501

Also surprising, they said the blood sample from New York won't be at the CDC for testing until tomorrow, something about them just using normal carriers like ups.

O_O

You're kidding me. They cannot be that stupid. WTF.

Edit:

Blood tests in suspected patients are first sent to the local health department and then to the CDC. Tom Skinner, a CDC spokesperson, said blood samples are packaged according to biomedical standards and shipped by traditional carriers, like UPS and FedEx.

Source

It's like they're begging for an outbreak. I cannot understand this.

a reply to: 00nunya00

Once I read Uganda and Tanzania, I was like waaaaaaa? Then saw the date. (Can happen to anybody.)

I think the biggest concern would be a jump to another 3rd world country. Your post made my heart skip a beat.

Glad it was old.

a reply to: 00nunya00

Can someone get a link on that?

a reply to: loam

Just edited mine with the link.

The only way that could be safe is if it's placed in a Halliburton case sealed in carbonite. There are so freaking many opportunities for accidents or foul play in this. Reeling from this revelation.

a reply to: Destinyone

Hi Des, Good to see ya,

Can you check out why all the flights from around the country were being delayed, diverted yesterday with connections in Chicago?

Thousands were told their flights could be delayed, deterred, or even cancelled. IT was crazy as hell.

Excuse was that there is only one runway open at Chicago... busiest time of year.

a reply to: antar

WB, antar!

Did they not give a reason?

a reply to: kruphix

While you make some good points, what the study shows is that there is no consensus, and there is still much to be learned about this disease.

As to whether or not the virus can be transmitted through droplets in the air (say an infected person coughs or sneezes), I'd say the jury's out. I certainly wouldn't be comfortable in an enclosed environment with an infected person. Would you?

Also, you keep falling back on the argument that the only thing that differentiates this outbreak from any other is the size and scope. I think what many are arguing here is that the size and scope is precisely the major concern. Nobody has studied the effects of Ebola on large populations. We are on uncharted ground here, so I wouldnt be so quick to poo-poo peoples' concerns and say past research is definitive.

originally posted by: 00nunya00

originally posted by: Zebra501

Also surprising, they said the blood sample from New York won't be at the CDC for testing until tomorrow, something about them just using normal carriers like ups.

O_O

You're kidding me. They cannot be that stupid. WTF.

Edit:

Blood tests in suspected patients are first sent to the local health department and then to the CDC. Tom Skinner, a CDC spokesperson, said blood samples are packaged according to biomedical standards and shipped by traditional carriers, like UPS and FedEx.

Source

It's like they're begging for an outbreak. I cannot understand this.

Geeze Loise...how many times have we heard of medical shipments being stolen off UPS and Fedex trucks because some idiot thought there may be drugs in the package.

I just don't believe how stupidly samples are being handled. They should have been sent priority air, at the very least. They have someone sitting in a hospital, waiting to find our if they have ebola for God's sake.

...shaking head in dismay....

Des

Not sure if anyone caught what I said earlier today, but while 11alive was live reporting, they said several times that the emt's riding with Nancy would be wearing respirators so they didn't breathe any common air with her in the ambulance. Just as a precaution of course (eye roll).

Starting last Friday, I noticed a change in the way everyone was talking about Ebola but today was even more noticeable. They're not using confident words anymore, saying things like attempting to contain, not airborne but just in case, etc. Could it be because of Lagos that the media is starting to rethink their stance?

a reply to: antar

Quick search of news from the last few days turns up nothing on delays or the runway claim. Hmmm. You'd think that at least some local Chicago media outlets would have reported *something* on it. Curious.

a reply to: Destinyone

Personally, I would only feel comfortable with a CDC or health department official holding the box in their hands from point A to point B on a plane. Only one person involved in the chain of custody for transport. And much faster than even one-day shipping, as it's like a 5-6-hour flight from anywhere to anywhere in the continental US. Just.so.stupid.

a reply to: 00nunya00

sure,,, if u have money to burn , i guess.

there are such things as BUDGETS,, and Accounting,,u know.

in the real world.

originally posted by: 00nunya00
a reply to: antar

Quick search of news from the last few days turns up nothing on delays or the runway claim. Hmmm. You'd think that at least some local Chicago media outlets would have reported *something* on it. Curious.

Sorry Antar I missed your post...mea culpa.

Nunya is correct, I could find nothing in search on reason for delays.

Here is a link I've used for tracking departures and arrivals of flights. It's a handy little link.

www.airportia.com...

Des

originally posted by: DirtyD
a reply to: kruphix

While you make some good points, what the study shows is that there is no consensus, and there is still much to be learned about this disease.

As to whether or not the virus can be transmitted through droplets in the air (say an infected person coughs or sneezes), I'd say the jury's out. I certainly wouldn't be comfortable in an enclosed environment with an infected person. Would you?

Also, you keep falling back on the argument that the only thing that differentiates this outbreak from any other is the size and scope. I think what many are arguing here is that the size and scope is precisely the major concern. Nobody has studied the effects of Ebola on large populations. We are on uncharted ground here, so I wouldnt be so quick to poo-poo peoples' concerns and say past research is definitive.

The study shows only one thing, and that is what it set out to show...that Ebola can be airborn transmission between pigs and primates. That is all it shows, you can not logically extrapolate anything else from those results.

Again, size and scope doesn't change the virus. I know a lot of people are talking about mutations...but to this point it is all pure speculation with nothing to back it up with.

originally posted by: Zebra501


Also surprising, they said the blood sample from New York won't be at the CDC for testing until tomorrow, something about them just using normal carriers like ups.

Well that just eases my mind.

a reply to: kruphix


Ebola can be airborn transmission

is Ebola considered too be AIRBORNE if the person who is sick , projectile vomits on u??


or does the definiftion of airborne and aerosol form
come into play only with the accompanied ,
explosive diareah?????????????????



mind boging,,