Ebola Patient in Atlanta Hospital

A few weeks ago when this was simmering I remember reading there was a vaccine for chimps against ebola. So obviously a vacccine is 'do-able'. One this looks like it's heading for a rich country some vaccine manufacturer will leap in and start pumping it out, once it's profitable.

www.cam.ac.uk...

Abstract
Infectious disease has only recently been recognized as a major threat to the survival of Endangered chimpanzees and Critically Endangered gorillas in the wild. One potentially powerful tool, vaccination, has not been deployed in fighting this disease threat, in good part because of fears about vaccine safety. Here we report on what is, to our knowledge, the first trial in which captive chimpanzees were used to test a vaccine intended for use on wild apes rather than humans. We tested a virus-like particle vaccine against Ebola virus, a leading source of death in wild gorillas and chimpanzees. The vaccine was safe and immunogenic. Captive trials of other vaccines and of methods for vaccine delivery hold great potential as weapons in the fight against wild ape extinction.

So I'm not crapping myself just yet. Chimps are really similar to humans.

I'm not a bit worried about Emory, or the CDC maintaining containment of ebola. I figure its a given sooner or later.

What has me concerned is a rumor of a breach of containment. Anyone else remember 'freaknik'? The city of Atlanta stopped it a few years back because even with every police Ofc. in the city, every sherrifs deputy from all surrounding counties, state troopers, and tact. Ofc. from every other agency in the state,.they couldn't control the crowds.
Now, imagine that crowd, scared, panicky, armed, and thinking that they are all gonn'a die...

originally posted by: DC434L2A
I'm not a bit worried about Emory, or the CDC maintaining containment of ebola. I figure its a given sooner or later.

What has me concerned is a rumor of a breach of containment. Anyone else remember 'freaknik'? The city of Atlanta stopped it a few years back because even with every police Ofc. in the city, every sherrifs deputy from all surrounding counties, state troopers, and tact. Ofc. from every other agency in the state,.they couldn't control the crowds.
Now, imagine that crowd, scared, panicky, armed, and thinking that they are all gonn'a die...

This is exactly what I have been saying, although in all honesty I do not trust our government. The CDC is a government agency. While I don't think they would intentionally cause an outbreak, I do think the panic that the mere thought of one causes give government an excuse for martial law. Hence the insistence on bringing them here. For sheer panic.

a reply to: beariel

If it makes you feel any better, I could not even figure out what "the MD degree" poster's point was. I read it 3 times trying to decipher whether it was a pro or con argument and... about what exactly? Nevertheless, you do make a valid point. This is a serious thread, about a serious topic, and all pranksters should please proceed to the masquerade ball down the hall in the "Jokes and Fun" forum.

Back to business at hand. Without divulging my location, I live between Virginia and Atlanta (though not right on the Interstate) and I will certainly report back with any sightings UN equipment in transit.

Can you get more detail about where & when they were spotted in VA?

Thanks

Something is up with this Ebola virus scenario.

They said it originated in Zaire!

Sounds a little too familiar. Remember the movie in 1995 called Outbreak starring Dustin Hoffman and Rene Russo?

The film focuses on an outbreak of a fictional Ebola-like virus called Motaba in Zaire and later in a small town in the United States. Its primary settings are government disease control centers USAMRIID and the CDC, and the fictional town of Cedar Creek, California. Outbreak's plot speculates how far military and civilian agencies might go to contain the spread of a deadly contagion

Hold the phone! Does that say 'FICTIONAL' Ebola Virus?

Is the release of this real virus based on the movie Outbreak?

Or is this the release of the 'Scare' tactic?

Outbreak Movie

In the movie they found out the virus was mutated by the Military to turn it into a Biological Weapon!

Cue twilight zone music!

Here’s the CDC picture of the virus cell:



And here’s the same on the movie



Wow! The Similarities are shocking. How could a fictional movie have the same virus strand as the ‘real’ one today?

Scary or what!

a reply to: paxnatus

The doctor who is or soon will be in a locked down secure isolation building is almost dead!!!

...bleeding out of every oriface!!

Do you have a source for these disturbing statements? Or are you making assumptions. This is not my thread, but I think I speak for most people following this when I say, please be a little more clear about whether you are stating supportable facts, or posting your opinion on probabilities.

a reply to: Hilux1996

The virus was real, I can remember it prior to outbreak. Lol.

The story was fictional, I think it was based on a true book called 'the hot zone' about a near outbreak of ebola.
www.amazon.co.uk...

a reply to: ~Lucidity

On your second quote, I find this part particularly disturbing...

"...unnamed officials who made this decision."

Whoever did this... own it. Whoever ok'd their "decision," name them. This IS a matter of national security. I, as an American citizen, deserve to know exactly who signed off on this, and I want people to quit passing the buck!

a reply to: Antigod

I think I referred to/posted this earlier in the thread. Maybe more than once. Maybe it was another thread late last night.

The 20-Year-Old Ebola Treatment That Could Stop the Outbreak

Net of this...not enough people to "test" it on.

Sorry but sounds a bit coincidental to me. Especially when you read about the other things going on that are related to this virus and or others.

Forced Quarantines and Door to Door searches in Sierra Leone

What if they did that in the US because of this virus?

How about this drill in New York simulating an Anthrax release. (Or Ebola?)

Massive Emergency Drill Underway In New York

Outbreak might be the basis for the control and or False Flag attack in the US.

I look at all the news. Mainstream and Independent.

What if this Virus release get's used to implement the NDAA and or gun grab?

They could target individuals accusing them of having the Virus. Seems to coincidental to me. You can see this could be used for Covert operations against the US population!

Or maybe I have been spending too much time on Conspiracy Sites?!

originally posted by: DrHammondStoat

originally posted by: Diabolical
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Glad we have a bunch morons running the country. lol He may not show symptoms now, but it only takes a month. And whoever he inacts within that month, and they interact within the time of patient zero. There is your outbreak that could have been prevented.

Doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure that out.

Why does this constantly get repeated? The disease is not transferrable in the incubation period, so there aren't people going round spreading this thing for 21 days totally unaware.

When symptoms start to show then the person is contagious but is pretty likely to seek medical help pretty quickly.

Please see my earlier post here: Link

THIS is the scenario that concerns us.

a reply to: new_here

"Ebola has a biochemical structure similar to retroviruses carried by birds, making a common evolutionary origin more likely:There can be no doubt now that an ancestral virus had a shell that evolved to become the shells of the Ebola virus and bird retroviruses," said professor David Sanders. He also said that there is a genuine worry by scientists that the Ebola virus is mutating and becoming airborne.

examiner

originally posted by: ~Lucidity
a reply to: Antigod

I think I referred to/posted this earlier in the thread. Maybe more than once. Maybe it was another thread late last night.

The 20-Year-Old Ebola Treatment That Could Stop the Outbreak

Net of this...not enough people to "test" it on.

I share your outrage. Not enough people to test it on? Well, excuse the hell out of me, but there are PLENTY of infected people to test this on, and since at least 10% (and by some accounts, 40%) of the infected are lucky enough to walk away healed... why the hell do they not gather some blood on their way out the door, thank you very much!

Oh wait... Big Pharma does not profit from this promising (if not proven) procedure. My bad.

a reply to: new_here

I don't suppose you could give me more info on the 20 year old ebola treatment? I'm only getting a blank page when I click the link.

Couple of tweets from minutes ago:

“@FoxNews: DEVELOPING: Dr. Kent Brantly named first #Ebola patient on plane back to US

“@SkyNewsBreak: Reuters: plane carrying U.S. aid worker infected with #Ebola virus has left Liberia for the U.S.”

Flight time:

*EDIT: It is 11 hours. Please see Lucidity's post below!!!

originally posted by: new_here
Couple of tweets from minutes ago:

“@FoxNews: DEVELOPING: Dr. Kent Brantly named first #Ebola patient on plane back to US

“@SkyNewsBreak: Reuters: plane carrying U.S. aid worker infected with #Ebola virus has left Liberia for the U.S.”

Flight time:

This page answers the question how long is the flight from Atlanta to Liberia. Time in the air or flight time is on average around 3 hours and 22 minutes when flying nonstop or direct without any connections or stopovers between Atlanta and Liberia.

SOURCE

Erm that's the flight time from Liberia, Costa Rica, not from Africa, which is more like 11 hours.

Airline travelers are not being screened for Ebola due to cost

World and U.S. health officials urge airline crews to isolate passengers who show symptoms of the Ebola virus if they have recently traveled to West African countries suffering an outbreak of the deadly disease.

But the World Health Organization isn't recommending screening airline passengers leaving the region of Guinea, Liberia or Sierra Leone. Screening is costly and detected few cases after an outbreak in 2003 of Severe Acute Respiratory Syndrome, or SARS, that began in China.

Sick people are urged not to travel. Because Ebola's incubation period is two to 21 days and early symptoms aren't specific, using thermal scanners to detect fevers is costly, unlikely to detect anyone infected with Ebola "and is not encouraged," according to the WHO.

link

In case you'd like to know where your nearest quarantine center has been set up (in light of the new Executive Order that your respiratory illness can cause you to be detained unless it is proven to be the flu...) here is a map showing the locations of ALL 20 in the US:
Link to Map

a reply to: ~Lucidity

Oh Bully! Thanks for catching that! I think I'll go delete that post to avoid disseminating misinformation.

originally posted by: new_here
a reply to: ~Lucidity

Oh Bully! Thanks for catching that! I think I'll go delete that post to avoid disseminating misinformation.

Just paying you back. Easy mistake. Lots to read here.