Ebola Patient in Atlanta Hospital

Just an out there thought:

When if:

The border situation didn't rally a call to arms to fix Central America as was hoped;

So therefore, a stronger force was introduced to focus our attention back to our own land and not the Middle East;

Lots of scenarios playing out in my mind right now . . .

I feel like we're on a chess board, truly.

I can't stand those sick, twisted, twinkie eating think tanks, they're soooo warped.

STM

ETA: All Think Tankers are cowards, losers, can't have a relationship with a hamster much less a monkey or a blow up doll AND Mensa is backwards on their methods, y'all are really MORONS. Daddy was Right about You. Go see your therapist, you're worthless. See what you've done? IDIOTS! And the coup de grace: No More New York Times Crosswords for You! All future Lattes Will Be Spit In! I won't even say what will be in your Jack In The Box tacos . .

Bad time ahead. Our life now will be the dream of tomorrowers.

While the timeline is not yet clear, the patients will be transported one at a time from Liberia by air ambulance operated by Phoenix Air in Cartersville, Georgia, to Dobbins Air Reserve Base in Marietta, Georgia. The plane is outfitted with a multi-layer, tentlike isolation apparatus called the Aeromedical Biological Containment System.

(Locals may care to note that this is the hospital on Clifton Rd. NE, near the headquarters of the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, not Emory Hospital Midtown on Peachtree.)

www.forbes.com...

Yes...locals MAY care to note.

Great. Cartersville is about 20 miles north and Dobbins is 5 miles from my house. Then to the hospital by what?

Why are they stopping in Cartersville? Are they flying or driving from Cartersville to Dobbins? What the hell? This is getting stranger and stranger.

Oh.

“The first in next several days and then the second a few days after that,” said Bruce S. Ribner, M.D., M.P.H., infectious disease physician and epidemiologist at Emory Hospital. Ribner is the chief medical officer for infection control procedures and training at the hospital.

For the last 12 years, special emergency medical transport personnel have trained emergency workers, paramedics, and others, developing procedures for use of protective equipment and conducting drills and exercises, according to Alexander P. Isakov, M.D., M.P.H., director of the Emory Office of Critical Event Response and Preparedness.

Dr. Isakov’s office oversees the procedures that will get the patients from the air reserve base to the hospital.

Sorry. This is way to close to home for me.

America has always been able to work, minimize and stay away from infectious diseases and other dangers due to the fact that most of the diseases are kept away from our borders.

Now their stupidity and inability to keep our nation safe is coming back to bite us all for electing them to protect us, open borders, taking sick patients in airplanes from oversea is uncalled for.

They are welcoming a pandemic into our nation and into our population, remember people, the elite that governments our nation live in land and country where we have not asses to and where they will be protected while we are exposed to anything that will harm us.

a reply to: marg6043

What do you think about the two-hopper? Why on EARTH would they land in Cartersville and THEN go to Dobbins?

a reply to: ~Lucidity

I am not familiar with that information, if you give a link I will read it, I just pop in an out of the board and have not been able to read all the threads on the ebola issue.

originally posted by: ~Lucidity
Please don't fight. We might all be donating blood to each other soon.

Providing we're not incubating the big E! Which brings me to this thought: They say people aren't contagious until they start to show symptoms. Isn't that just a tad subjective? I mean, somebody could get a scratchy throat and not really realize their fever's been on the rise for a couple hours. It's a disturbing grey area for me. (Especially since one particle of this thing is all it takes to infect another person.) They make it sound like there is a magic instant in time where a person goes from non-contagious to 'my sweat can kill you.' This is too dangerous a disease for the definition of 'when a person is contagious' to be so vague.

originally posted by: Destinyone
a reply to: soficrow

I apologize if you think I've treated you harshly.

Apology accepted.

I can't go along with your take on how things need to get fixed on international and internal levels before I can be concerned for the immediate safety of friends and neighbors.

I wonder if you would have a slightly different take on this situation if you lived only 2 hours from Atlanta, as I and many in this thread do.

You are insistent that your way is the only way to have an attitude about this issue. I differ in my opinion.

I prefer to see it as an issue at hand. Not one that needs the whole world to change before anything can be done.

Des

I live in a city with a level-4 BioLab that's been working on Ebola for some time. I live with it, even knowing that accidents happen, and even when one of my daughter's friend's parents both worked in the lab.

Yes, I am insistent about presenting my case and making my arguments - what's wrong with that? I argue politely, without name-calling or making accusations - I deal with specific issues, topics, sub-issues, sub-topics and evident implications. That's called an argument.

True, I am passionate about the things I believe in, and about the dangers I see - that's why I posted warnings about this Ebola epidemic 5 months ago and kept the thread updated, and kept digging up facts and info on the disease.

SO - You don't agree with me and I don't agree with you. What am I missing? Did ATS change it's Terms and Conditions to forbid disagreement and civilized argument? Persistence? Insistence? Passion? .... I'm serious - I do not understand your issue.

a reply to: marg6043


I posted the link above...it's information from. of all things, Forbes. Here it is again: www.forbes.com...

a reply to: ~Lucidity

Oh, lord lucidity I just found the thread on the UK dangers of pandemic and the soldiers that may be infected, what in the hell did the British soldiers caught the ebola? if they have it?.

What is going on, is this a well plan of attack from our governments to thin out the population?

This getting weird and weird, we never had something like this going on before.

a reply to: marg6043

I know. This is getting even more worrisome.

And about the local route issue. Thing is...them even posting the route worries me. It's either the real route, in which case they are idiots to publish it, or it's a diversion, in which case that tells us they are worried about threats, possibly terroristic.

a reply to: ~Lucidity

I got it, so the missionaries American are infected and our stupid and moronic government is trying to bring them to America but first they want to land in UK so they can spread the love?

you have to be kidding, leave the darn infected where they got infected, they are going to die anyway.

a reply to: Witness2008

Thanks and ah, yes. Bottom line for me? No man left behind. I just can't support the idea of leaving one of our own "behind enemy lines." Way beyond what I know about biology, politics and economics and the way they're played for fun and profit, this is an emotional issue for me. You just don't ever turn your back on your own. That and the fact that this all just took us way down the very slippery slope to giving up our personal rights, liberties and freedoms. For the illusion of safety.

Just heard on local news they will land at Dobbins and be transferred via ambulance to Emory, with a police escort.

Hopefully afterwards, they'll torch the ambulance. I know I wouldn't want to be the next patient to ride in it!

originally posted by: ~Lucidity

While the timeline is not yet clear, the patients will be transported one at a time from Liberia by air ambulance operated by Phoenix Air in Cartersville, Georgia, to Dobbins Air Reserve Base in Marietta, Georgia. The plane is outfitted with a multi-layer, tentlike isolation apparatus called the Aeromedical Biological Containment System.

(Locals may care to note that this is the hospital on Clifton Rd. NE, near the headquarters of the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, not Emory Hospital Midtown on Peachtree.)

www.forbes.com...

Yes...locals MAY care to note.

Great. Cartersville is about 20 miles north and Dobbins is 5 miles from my house. Then to the hospital by what?

Why are they stopping in Cartersville? Are they flying or driving from Cartersville to Dobbins? What the hell? This is getting stranger and stranger.

Oh.

“The first in next several days and then the second a few days after that,” said Bruce S. Ribner, M.D., M.P.H., infectious disease physician and epidemiologist at Emory Hospital. Ribner is the chief medical officer for infection control procedures and training at the hospital.

For the last 12 years, special emergency medical transport personnel have trained emergency workers, paramedics, and others, developing procedures for use of protective equipment and conducting drills and exercises, according to Alexander P. Isakov, M.D., M.P.H., director of the Emory Office of Critical Event Response and Preparedness.

Dr. Isakov’s office oversees the procedures that will get the patients from the air reserve base to the hospital.

Sorry. This is way to close to home for me.

I thought time was precious for these patients, or so someone said on this very thread. They could receive better care sooner on a Medical ship don't ya think? Stock up on your colloidal silver. Personally, I'm not worried for myself even though I'm in N Florida so about 6 hours from Atlanta. More worried about the panic that the general public will have and what results from that panic.

One of the posts I received on my Facebook from and old friend read as follows... "Ebola won't have a chance to spread here, it's not the correct environment for it's needs. The only reason it has the mortality rate it does is because it hits the hot, arid, poor, and unsanitary worlds. It hasn't been a problem here because even at our worst we're still a 1st world country.

Everyone one on that plane will go right into seclusion and will stay there until the sick Americans are healthy again. Our medical environment is drastically different than that of Africa's, from medicines to our protective processes, and the research could provide a cure. We do have Ebola here, it's just been in vials in laboratories until now. It's EVERYONES best chance of survival for it to be studied in top of the line labs rather than the struggling attempts at a lab in Africa."

A good and compelling post but it still fails to address the issue of human mistakes. In addition to that it also proves the point that bringing Ebola here is simply unnecessary for us to help the world, and contribute to the cure. We have it in vials already. These doctors knew the risks. They knew what would happen if they became infected. It's the kind of situation where if a nuclear reactor leaks, and there are people trapped inside, do you risk massive environmental contamination to save a few lives? Or do you seal the reactor off to prevent contamination?

Also to address the "correct enviornment for it's needs" part... It would actually be very easy for Ebola to survive here. Sewage and waste systems, dumping waste water into lakes and oceans, Densely packed urban schools... pre-schools where kids swap every germ imaginable. The Hemorrhaging alone is a massive problem. Children's immune systems could never cope with Ebola the way Adults do. If one baby got infected, and they become symptomatic within hours, that would be a disaster. If you see diarrhea and vomiting in a baby, its somewhat normal. The last thing you would think is Ebola, unless there is a current outbreak. It's much harder to diagnose Ebola on a baby or toddler that can't describe symptoms, therefore losing valuable containment time. Knowing how small and tenacious these micro organisms can be, in NO way can I support bringing an active case to American Soil.

Do you really believe that the planes haven't even left yet? I think it's a shell game and that the planes landed yesterday to avoid press and protests. National Security and all that . .

I have no proof of this but it would make sense if they wanted to avoid attention.

STM

a reply to: new_here

Did you not see my posts about this. This is my very neighborhood. They are ALSO landing in Cartersville. Why land twice?

a reply to: Khaleesi
I agree with you about the ship. I also think most people aren't paying a bit of attention.

originally posted by: new_here

originally posted by: ~Lucidity
Please don't fight. We might all be donating blood to each other soon.

Providing we're not incubating the big E! Which brings me to this thought: They say people aren't contagious until they start to show symptoms. Isn't that just a tad subjective? I mean, somebody could get a scratchy throat and not really realize their fever's been on the rise for a couple hours. It's a disturbing grey area for me. (Especially since one particle of this thing is all it takes to infect another person.) They make it sound like there is a magic instant in time where a person goes from non-contagious to 'my sweat can kill you.' This is too dangerous a disease for the definition of 'when a person is contagious' to be so vague.

Belly laugh. And all true. Thanks.

S&

For all you people still talking about how "safe" the people are at Emory and the CDC, this is a repost for you. Unless you actually work for Emory or the CDC or live with someone who does, please stop trying to convince us who do how we have nothing to worry about and how we're overreacting. If there's nothing to worry about, how about we let them come crash on your couch?

Allow me to clarify just how "safe" these people who deal with these diseases really are. I live in Atlanta and my EX-wife is a SUPERVISOR at the CDC who works every day with EBOLA and every other nasty thing you can imagine. Every day she has to go through wearing the "suit" and then go through the decontamination procedure before coming home.

Well, one day she gets home and I'm on the front porch to greet her. She reaches for the front doorknob to go inside and then she pauses, looks down at her feet, then looks up at me with a panic-stricken face...

SHE FORGOT TO CHANGE HER SHOES AND WAS WEARING THE SAME SHOES SHE WORE INTO THE DAMN LAB SHE HANDLES THOSE DISEASES IN!!!

She simply shook it off and said, "Well, there's nothing I can do about it now," and took her shoes off and left them outside on the porch. She went on the next day as if nothing had ever happened.

So with that said, all you people talking about how "safe" this is and how "professional" all these people are... no offense, but you don't know what you're talking about. These "professionals" are all HUMAN and they make mistakes ON A REGULAR BASIS. I'm sure it's not intentional, but by them knowingly bringing people infected with Ebola into the US, this is definitely a disaster waiting to happen.

As I said earlier, she is now my EX-wife. Living with her was just way too damn stressful!