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Texas Town Rallies to Support Man Convicted of the Super Aggravated Sexual Assault of a 4 yr old Boy

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posted on Jul, 27 2014 @ 02:08 PM
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Does anyone know who this kids lawyer is ? I just want to make sure I never hire him.

Just to clarify, this kid did not cop a plea, he was found guilty by a jury. He turned down a plea deal.
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posted on Jul, 27 2014 @ 02:11 PM
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a reply to: Xtrozero
You have a good point, and one I did not consider. I guess my reply originally was in error. I did not read into it from all angles first. My Bad, and I suppose I regret my initial post.
Thanx for your angle here.It is appreciated! Syx.



posted on Jul, 27 2014 @ 02:11 PM
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originally posted by: abe froman
Does anyone know who this kids lawyer is ? I just want to make sure I never hire him.


Could that be part of the appeal process?



posted on Jul, 27 2014 @ 02:12 PM
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originally posted by: intrepid
Point... missed. I said you can't tell deviants, even extreme ones, by looking at them.


Or even a bully...maybe he did it as some sick bulling, no sexual connotations involved. A person doesn't need to be a full blown psychopath/sociopath to get enjoyment from bullying others. It would be interesting to read about his past since I would not think that he was a perfect kid and all of a sudden he decided to do this.

If is funny how perfect kids end up not being perfect. We find out small things like bullying other, torturing/killing animals for pleasure, sick web searches...etc...



posted on Jul, 27 2014 @ 02:17 PM
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First you have to understand the power of football in Texas. It is Major. In a small town, if it's one with a successful football team, being a star player makes you a celebrity. It isn't that surprising to think that the people are going to rally around the player here whether he's innocent or guilty.

The reaction these citizens are having is similar to the one that Penn State fans had surrounding the Jerry Sandusky affair.

The reaction is very much "It's all about winning on Friday (or Saturday or Sunday). Who cares about the kid (or dog or woman)?" In their minds, this little boy has basically stolen their glory and that's all they see. Frankly, it's disgusting, but that's the level our sports mania has gotten to in a lot of people if it hadn't been, then Ray Rice would have gotten much more than just a two game suspension for this:



Now, don't get me wrong. I love my football. I love my sports, and I was a collegiate athlete in my day. But none of that has blinded me to the fact that it's all just a game and IN NO WAY excuses this type of behavior - from either the athletes or their fans.

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posted on Jul, 27 2014 @ 02:18 PM
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originally posted by: abe froman
Does anyone know who this kids lawyer is ? I just want to make sure I never hire him.
Just to clarify, this kid did not cop a plea, he was found guilty by a jury. He turned down a plea deal.


I agree, his lawyers suck big time....

They should have recognized that the first pled deal was his best direction, and after the conviction it seems this path would be worst than just going to jail and doing 7 to 10 and get out on good behavior. He will be 65 when he gets a chance for a life, as he puts it....



posted on Jul, 27 2014 @ 02:18 PM
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originally posted by: Witness2008
a reply to: SyxPak

I worked the criminal legal system within Williamson County. There are several reasons why an individual would settle for such a plea bargain. The most glaring reason in my mind is the non-disclousure of evidence practiced by the DA. Even after Judge Anderson was ousted for the practice, it continues unabated.

The whole community of Williamson County fears the corruption up there, unless of course you are employed by the county.




Guys I wanted to post a quote of what was given to me by this guy. It tells a lot. In case you may have missed it. Syx.



posted on Jul, 27 2014 @ 02:25 PM
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a reply to: NickDC202

I believe the Innocence Project has gotten some people released where pressured confessions had been a part of their original convictions. Life in prison is alot of pressure for some prisoners.

I would like to know more about this case. It's hard to see how a community would remain behind a convicted molester unless there was alot more to it.



posted on Jul, 27 2014 @ 02:33 PM
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Football players are Gods in Texas. Shame on that community!!



posted on Jul, 27 2014 @ 02:41 PM
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I've found through my own experience that the system is broken badly. I was forced to plea to ridiculous thought-crimes last year, either that or get stuck with four felony counts for something I didn't do. That said, I don't believe the argument that this kid should not have pled. Unless you have the cash to buy O.J.'s Dream Team of lawyers one has almost no chance of beating the system once you are in it's crosshairs.

If I had been on that jury, I could not have voted to convict. If there is no physical evidence then where, exactly, is the proof, beyond a reasonable doubt, that he did this? I couldn't do it just based on a four year-olds testimony. Just because someone says something does not make it true and I have a hard time considering this hard evidence that could convict someone.

I felt the same way about the Sandusky case a while back. Do I believe he did something? Yes. Did they offer up proof in that trial? All I ever saw was words and words are not good enough for me.



posted on Jul, 27 2014 @ 02:44 PM
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a reply to: Sremmos80

Actually, it adds up. When folks that are innocent in Williamson county announce such things, they almost always proceed to trial, until however the knowledge of a good attorney and his understanding of how the system operates, may in the end convince some one to take the plea bargain, rather than run the gauntlet of corruption and dirty tricks.

You may want to research the counties courts and law enforcement before indicting a case you know absolutely nothing about.



posted on Jul, 27 2014 @ 02:49 PM
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Texas can be a little gung-ho over it's football stars. Did a say a little? They're freaking nuts over it. However I can't see anyone taking sides with a convicted pedophile. The suspect HAD his chance in court. These Texas town residents need to sort out their priorities.



posted on Jul, 27 2014 @ 02:52 PM
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NOW I get why young NFL stars like Aldon Smith get into so many legal problems. They have been exempt from reality when it comes to the law.



posted on Jul, 27 2014 @ 02:55 PM
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Never would have figured Texas for a NAMBLA state.

But, here we are.



posted on Jul, 27 2014 @ 02:56 PM
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a reply to: TheSpanishArcher

All right, but then what evidence does a blow job leave?

At what point do you start to think something may be up?

Are all children being molested liars?



posted on Jul, 27 2014 @ 03:02 PM
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a reply to: ketsuko

!. How about saliva?

2. I never said something wasn't up, just that I cannot convict based JUST on words. As House says, everyone lies.

3. No, and I never said that either.

I could say that because I'm such a hoopy frood that the guys in Rush decided they want me as their drummer/lyricist. Doesn't make it true. Maybe I'm just being naive but I kinda like proof in my criminal trials, not just words.



posted on Jul, 27 2014 @ 03:08 PM
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originally posted by: ketsuko
a reply to: TheSpanishArcher

All right, but then what evidence does a blow job leave?


We could ask Monica Lewinsky. Bwahahahaha.......



Are all children being molested liars?


No. They have specialists that know how to delve into these things. Let's remember....... 4. A 4 yo may know the difference between sexes but they know almost nothing about SEX.



posted on Jul, 27 2014 @ 03:09 PM
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originally posted by: ketsuko
All right, but then what evidence does a blow job leave?
At what point do you start to think something may be up?
Are all children being molested liars?


In MJs case they had the kid describe his member... I would think in this case they could do the same if the kid had seen it at anytime.



posted on Jul, 27 2014 @ 03:14 PM
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>star football player
>Texas

There's your reason right there... REGARDLESS of whether or not he's guilty. It's the same reason celebrities constantly get off the hook for the same things other people get sent to prison for.
"But we like him! We watch him play football! He couldn't have done it!"



posted on Jul, 27 2014 @ 03:26 PM
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I don't suppose that it has dawned on some of you in this thread that the community support for this "star football player" could just be that he is a good kid and the community knows how corrupt the justice system is?

The majority of members here are slamming a kid because he is a football star and accusing him of child abuse, instead of researching the case. We all live in a society ruled over by lies and deception, divisiveness, and wrongful convictions, and this thread is a good example as to why all of those things continue to flourish.



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