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originally posted by: BASSPLYR
I have an easy one, but one that I could use a clearer understanding of.
What's the Compton Wavelength all about? What does it measure?
Does it's wavelength change according to the particle involved? How does it correspond with other contingencies in the atom or whatever?
originally posted by: ImaFungi
a reply to: stormbringer1701
I think you are missing my point which is focused on fundamentalities.
The fundamentality being; the only reason there exists such reality and concept of 'magnetism/electromagnetism' is because the supposed electromagnetic medium/field.
It is not! particles in and of themselves which create the phenomenon known as magnetism.
It is particle; And; the material medium which surrounds particle.
Duh!
If you disagree; you are saying;
A marble like object exists, such that through space of nothingness, it can without any object leaving its body, not reach out, but reach out (action at a distance) and bring another object towards it.
We dont like such silliness for gravity, and we dont like it for magnetism.
Thus; field theory.
There exists a material medium, which the particles interact with; which the way in which the particles interact with the medium, has the ability to interact with particles at a distance (as while I am in a pool of water I can interact with a tennis ball at a distance from my body without touching the tennis ball, Only, by virtue of their being a material medium which unites us both).
So;
Considering the nature of any possibly theorized monopole;
One must consider the effects of the particle, on the medium/field which surrounds it.
The reason dipole is natural;
Is because an object rotating in a material medium, effects the medium differently when looking down on the object from above, as when looking up at the object from below.
If you had a basketball in a pool of water that was rotating;
The vortex in the water would be swirling opposite directions, in accordance to the basketballs N and S pole.
How would any theorized monopole;
Being, some shape object, existing as attached to the medium/field which is responsible for EM;
Avoid disturbing the field which surrounds it, on its top and its bottom?
The reason electron is naturally dipole, is because it is an object attached to a material medium;
And, when the electron as an object rotates, or maybe even to be safe lets say, vibrates or jolts back and forth, the reaction this causes to the medium it is attached to, is a reaction that viewed from different angles surrounding the electron object, the medium will be vibrating/moving in a different way.
The medium moving near the N pole of a magnet, is moving differently than the medium near the S pole of the magnet, because in the magnet, the electrons are all orientated in the same way, thus their collective same movements, result in the opposite movements of the medium, in the opposing directions.
originally posted by: pfishy
Ok, I have a couple more questions.
Monopoles. I am familiar with the theoretical definition of them, but why would they allow such advances in materials science and energy production? I'm afraid I am totally unfamiliar with the possible practical applications of them.
Also, what is the purpose of the charged surface along the leading edges of the B-2 Spirit's wings? Is it a plasma sheath application to reduce drag? Or what other possible functions could it serve? Or, and this is obviously not the case but it would be entertaining to discuss, is it to broil any birds that strike the wings so the pilots can have a snack when they land? Lol
originally posted by: Bedlam
a reply to: pfishy
Magnetic dipoles have field strength that falls as the square of the distance. The field of a monopole is linear.
originally posted by: stormbringer1701
originally posted by: Bedlam
a reply to: pfishy
Magnetic dipoles have field strength that falls as the square of the distance. The field of a monopole is linear.
it's also due to the fact they are tiny some theorized species are 2000 times tinier than protons. Because they are tiny so is the length that their nuclear and electronic bonds must span. The shorter the bonding length the stronger the bond. We are talking something that potentially could hold itself together even if submerged in the surface layers of a neutron star.
We are talking of something that if you made a "nanite" (really it would be a "pikite") out of could have the proper scaling to "hand" assemble or disassemble molecules. and have room left over for supercomputer class onboard electronics.
originally posted by: pfishy
originally posted by: stormbringer1701
originally posted by: Bedlam
a reply to: pfishy
Magnetic dipoles have field strength that falls as the square of the distance. The field of a monopole is linear.
it's also due to the fact they are tiny some theorized species are 2000 times tinier than protons. Because they are tiny so is the length that their nuclear and electronic bonds must span. The shorter the bonding length the stronger the bond. We are talking something that potentially could hold itself together even if submerged in the surface layers of a neutron star.
We are talking of something that if you made a "nanite" (really it would be a "pikite") out of could have the proper scaling to "hand" assemble or disassemble molecules. and have room left over for supercomputer class onboard electronics.
Wow. I really should read up on them. I keep meaning to, but then I see something shiny and it all goes to h*ll.
I had no idea they could exist at that size scale. I can definitely understand why they'd make a killer roofing pruduct. Or battle armor/doomsday vault.
Since force is energy per unit distance, the force needed to break a magchemical bond is larger than that needed to break an electronic chemical bond by a factor of the energy scaling (300 GeV / 13.7 eV) divided by the length scaling, or 7 million trillion (7E18). The strength of a material is usually defined as the force per unit area required to make the material fail. Since each magchemical bond can withstand 7E18 times greater force, and there are (300 million)2 times more bonds per unit area, the strength of magmatter is about 8E35 times greater than that of its normal matter equivalent.
Magnetic Monopoles
Magnetic monopoles are elementary particles that carry units of magnetic charge. Monopoles are their own antiparticles: a North monopole will mutually annihilate a South monopole. Related to monopoles are dyons, which carry electric charge in addition to magnetic charge. First theorized by the pre-Information Age physicist P.A.M. Dirac, the existence of a single monopole with 68.5n*e charge (n=1,2,3,...) served to fix the value of e, the fundamental unit of electric charge, in the Universe. Monopoles have a direct connection to the topology of the cosmos. Unlike instantons, monopoles are inherently stable.
First, the Dirac string of the classical Dirac monopole is connected to topological properties of fermions (spin 1/2 particles). In particular, a fermion connected to its background by strings is entangled by a 360 degree rotation, but unentangled by a 720 degree rotation*. Next, once the Higgs boson and symmetry breaking mechanisms in classical cosmology were discovered, monopoles were found to be a 0-dimensional, or point defect in the scalar Higgs field -- the so-called "hedgehog potential". (See references below for details.) Finally, massless monopoles arise naturally in non-Abelian string theories and SU(2) supersymmetric theories.
Due to their topological nature, monopoles are naturally produced in great numbers at the beginning of the Universe via the Kibble mechanism.** Because of their unique properties, as will be seen later, monopole production rate must be constrained significantly by other factors, such as inflation of the Universe.
Properties
Monopoles are easily accelerated by strong magnetic fields. Dyons are possible (electrically and magnetically charged monopoles), but "colored" dyons (SU(3) color charge from the strong nuclear force) are not. Massive monopoles weigh up to 10E16 GeV, equivalent to an amoeba.
At strong nuclear force energy scales (e.g. fusion), the monopole core restores the symmetry of the unified gauge group, which catalyzes nucleon decay proportional to the area of the core. This is a very small number, 10E-56 cm2, and would normally be negligible; however, the s-wave (angular quantum number l=0, e.g. spherical orbital) of a fermion interacts with the monopole core to produce "s-wave sucking". S-wave sucking magnifies the ground state orbital size of the monopole, producing a cross section of unity: for example, using an SU(5) theory*** two first-order, approximate reactions are:
Monopole + neutron ---> Monopole + negative pion + positron
Monopole + proton ---> Monopole + neutral pion + positron
Natural occurrence
Phase transitions in the early universe produce topological defects corresponding to "false vacuum states" that differ from the natural vacuum expectation value of the universe. Once energy levels drop to a level below the symmetry breaking scale, these defects "freeze" in as permanent features. The defect rate is correlated with the particle horizon; this Kibble mechanism results in a constant ratio of monopoles to entropy:
n/s ~ 10^2(T/m)^3
where n = number of monopoles, s = entropy, T = phase transition temperature, m is Planck mass, and the particle horizon is assumed to be t^-1 where t is the time when the Universe was at temperature T.
For T=1014GeV, monopole mass = 1016GeV, n/s ~ 10-13.
This large ratio would produce a closed Universe ~ 1011 more massive than the currently observed one, if not for inflation.
Relic monopoles will be accelerated by galactic and intergalactic magnetic fields. The Milky Way's galactic field, for example, is 3E-6 Gauss, with a coherence length of about 300 parsecs. This will accelerate a relic monopole to a velocity of:
v~3E-3 c (10E16GeV/m)^(1/2)
where c = speed of light and m is the monopole mass in GeV
The ability of monopoles to catalyze energy release sets limits upon the primordial monopole flux, F. For example, only 10E28 monopoles in the center of the sun are required to produce the entire solar luminosity of 4E33 ergs/second.
Planets, stars, and neutron stars theoretically accumulate monopoles as follows:
A main sequence star of .6 to 30 solar masses captures monopoles of m < 10E18 GeV with velocities < 10E-3c with good efficiency. During its lifetime, a main sequence star will accumulate 10E40 * F monopoles.
Neutron stars collect monopoles most efficiently; monopoles of mass < 10E20 GeV and v < 10E-3c are captured with unit efficiency; 10E37*F monopoles in 10E10 years.
Jupiter planets stop monopoles less massive than 10E16GeV and v
originally posted by: ImaFungi
a reply to: pfishy
There can only ever be;
That which is exactly nothing
And that which is exactly not nothing
In other words;
There can only ever be;
Something
And; Nothing
And only something is something
Nothing only 'exists' in the fact that it is absence of existence.
Nothing only exists in the fact that;
There is a difference between two particles of something which exist 1 inch apart
And two particles of something which exist 1 mile apart
Therefore the fact that 'not something' exists between them
Is a relevant fact
But nothing cannot itself do anything to something
Because it is nothing
Nothing cannot do anything
Nothing is nothing
If you have details and qualities of nothing
You do not have details and qualities of nothing
unless those details and qualities are only distances of nothing
and nothing more.
I am right.
Math is language.
Reality is language.
Reality is physical logic/reason.
Besides, minds, which transcend pure determinism of physical reality,
by utilizing systems of symbolic simulation.
Reality can only escape determinism, by creating systems which transcend determinism, which requires grouping groups of materials as symbols, and then computing those symbols, to create results, which are not determined strictly by the nature of the physical materials reacting to their existence amongst an environment. Thus the nature of the mind.
So, the nature of the measurement problem depends the interpretation of quantum mechanics being considered.
You either didn't watch the video, or you weren't paying attention, since he specifically says that is not how it works, and he encourages people to avoid that bogus line of thinking.
originally posted by: Involutionist
...which in turn depends on the mind observing it all?
You're saying my analogy doesn't work because getting a loan is more complex than how the universe works? I thought the universe was more complex, and of course no analogy is ever a perfect representation of reality. That doesn't mean analogies are all bad just because they're imperfect; they can still be useful, but yes none are completely correct, and for that matter even our more correct models are still not 100% correct because they themselves are just models and not reality. They can make 100% accurate predictions over a wide range of variables, like general relativity does, but they still seem to be imperfect (like General Relativity's breakdown to infinite density of a black hole).
originally posted by: ImaFungi
Your analogy is so contrived its ridiculous, because you are starting in such complex situations utilizing items and symbols and transcendent artifacts and concepts. I am making statements about absolutes, about the totality of totality, about all the substance/material energy that exists in the largest most total regard of reality. I am speaking about the most fundamental absolute truths. Your analogy uses concepts of existing in time as complex systems of material, which have knowledge of how to use number systems in relation to perceptions of future times, and abstractions such as negatives.
I'm afraid I don't know much about gravitons, except for a few simple things, like we don't know if they exist or not, but if they do, they are probably massless.
I do hope you attempt to answer my bowling ball graviton question.