SyFy Channel July 20, "ALIENS ON THE MOON: THE TRUTH EXPOSED"

Seeing as the programme makers weren't too helpful, the Apollo 16 image they refer to is AS16-121-19438

spaceflight.nasa.gov...

Anyone who cares to can go here

www.lpi.usra.edu...

and look at all the other Apollo images of Mare Crisium and see if they can spot a primitive alien motte and bailey castle.

You could even use this search instead for Lick crater, which I think is the one they're looking at

www.lpi.usra.edu...

and don't forget Lunar Orbiter

www.lpi.usra.edu...

Don't take anyone's word for it, look for yourself.

Decent show, but too many of the photographs were too hard to see. Some intriguing anomalies for sure that did look like man made structures, however they jumped to conclusions to much. Sure that looked like a nuclear cooling tower but that was a leap to just call it that. I was intrigued by the "Satellite Dish" anomaly. I was also intrigued by the inch work pipe and that whole area. The geologist said it was probably just rubble from an impact but...I've never seen anything like that on the moon. I would love a close up picture of that. I would also love a close up picture of the towers...Even if just geological features they are amazing! Why do we not have better pictures of this stuff!

I watched a little bit of the show, but I had to stop when I got a headache from looking at all the blurry photos like I was getting cataracts or something.

I kept waiting for them to show some clearer photos of the same areas done by Clementine or the LRO or some other more recent probes, but it didn't happen quick enough, so I just gave up. That's the kind of show it was. Rather than seek out new information, they kept showing the same computer generated graphics of the area in an attempt to "prove" their point.

Fine, man, fine. I know it only matters if somebody can deliver the goods. Until then, it's all just rabbits in clouds. No rabbit stew.

To me the most intriguing part was obviously the female Et (which looked very human...). I had never heard of that story before.A us-ussr mission in the cold war era..i don't know it sounds far fetched to me especially when you know that in 1983 WW3 was very close to happen

As far as the woman who testified she did the dirty work (brushed out parts on pics) isn't she supposed to never talk (secrecy oath; not affraid to lose her pension)? Enlighten me please.

originally posted by: amazing
Decent show, ... Why do we not have better pictures of this stuff!

It's a good question, and we would, if the proponents ever provided precise latitude/longitude of the locations of their anomalies. Put the pressure on them, because archives of better images await accessing.

Consider this. Maybe they don't WANT you to see better images, think about why?

Some of the 'anomalies' are already available in higher resolution from later-generation mapping missions, look around for them, those pictures also are not well advertised in some circles. Widen your horizon.

[apology to watchmen for earlier version of this message]

originally posted by: IsaacKoi

originally posted by: Uggielicious
As soon as 11pm arrives and the show ends this thread will be abuzz, Oberg's thread might set a record, and there will be other competing threads. I hope the mods will be on standby and redirect any new threads to this one.

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A new thread posted in the light of actually having seen this documentary would enable the OP of a new thread (Jim Oberg??) to set out a clear and concise outline of the main claims made in the show and then to methodical include facts/links relevant to those claims.
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Having now watched the entire documentary, I don't think that it deserves a new thread commenting on the "evidence" presented in it.

Basically, the "Aliens on the Moon" documentary broadcast on the SyFy Channel is a steaming pile of bovine excrement which comes close to setting a new low in standards for UFO documentaries (which is really a pretty remarkable achievement given how bad some of the other UFO documentaries have been...).

I mean, come on, surely the producers of the documentary are aware of the admissions of a hoax in relation to some of the footage heavily featured in the documentary or of the material which seriously undermines some of the other claims made?

Even if the producers weren't aware of such material from a prior interest in ufology, just a bit of the most basic research (e.g. a few Google searches) would have found this material.

"...so bad that it keep you laughing hysterically until the end. Physics, science, and common sense are all out the window though so don't expect it to make sense. Why? Because SyFy". These comments are quoted from a review on IMGB of Syfy's first "Sharknado" movie, but the review could equally apply to SyFy's "Aliens on the Moon" documentary.

It's take-no-prisoners time at this anti-Bara website:

dorkmission.blogspot.com...

So, as people are pointing out, there's the LRO pictures on file to followup on these locations profiled on that show. I haven't tried locating those sites as yet, but here's a sample of the resolution in those pictures, here showing the Apollo 17 lunar lander platform and the flag:

lroc.sese.asu.edu...

The blog article linked above by Jim O has a link to one guy who did check out the satellite dish site by looking at current LRO pics of the
same crater:

dorkmission.blogspot.com...

originally posted by: Atiasrama
So, as people are pointing out, there's the LRO pictures on file to followup on these locations profiled on that show. I haven't tried locating those sites as yet, but here's a sample of the resolution in those pictures, here showing the Apollo 17 lunar lander platform and the flag:

lroc.sese.asu.edu...

The blog article linked above by Jim O has a link to one guy who did check out the satellite dish site by looking at current LRO pics of the
same crater:

dorkmission.blogspot.com...

I like this kind of work and we need more of it. with comparisons like this. However, It's a totally different angle and doesn't even look like the same area at all. I find it hard to believe that it's the same area. It certainly could be but..you know what I'm saying right?

Here's good background work someone did showing how one of the picture artifacts came about. Explains the dotted triangle "craft":

www.metabunk.org...

"amazing", the so called satellite dish photo is in a precisely known area. Not hard to find it in the LROC database. To the right of it, some distance away but relatively nearby, is the gun turret and smokestack area. All of that was tied together last night by the commentators on that show as being an integrated complex of some sort.

The LROC pictures are being archived as they come in, over at ASU (Arizona State University). Those pictures zoom in so well that you can see stuff we left behind on our missions! Better than the old Apollo mission photos that were used on this show. Obviously, for those really wanting to see what's really on the moon, it makes sense to study this extensive photographic archive.

originally posted by: Atiasrama
Here's good background work someone did showing how one of the picture artifacts came about. Explains the dotted triangle "craft":

www.metabunk.org...

"amazing", the so called satellite dish photo is in a precisely known area. Not hard to find it in the LROC database. To the right of it, some distance away but relatively nearby, is the gun turret and smokestack area. All of that was tied together last night by the commentators on that show as being an integrated complex of some sort.

The LROC pictures are being archived as they come in, over at ASU (Arizona State University). Those pictures zoom in so well that you can see stuff we left behind on our missions! Better than the old Apollo mission photos that were used on this show. Obviously, for those really wanting to see what's really on the moon, it makes sense to study this extensive photographic archive.

I think the fallback to old footage and pictures is due to the hope of finding archived stuff with provenance that shows interesting stuff the censors missed and failed to airbrush out. Once anyone becomes open to the possibility of finding artificial anomalies on the Moon or Mars, then one also comes to understand that NASA must have seen these things and are keeping the information secret.

The newer high res images from the Moon and Mars are awesome to look at and study. Some interesting things have been found and are up for debate, but old anomalies not showing up on new, higher resolution images doesn't prove anything. The assumption is that if they were there, NASA knew they were there and definitely would Photoshop them out of the new data.

If they made new raw data instantly available, some would still wonder if there wasn't some built in delay to block disclosure of things they don't want us to know about, but it would still go a long way in rebuilding some sense of trust. In the current information age, there is no good reason for raw data feeds not to be shared the second they are received. Space science should be for the benefit of all mankind and any concerns of foreign scientists using our raw data to make discoveries before we do should be moot.

I'd really be interested in anomalies identified from older data that rather than being clarified by higher res imagery, just don't show up at all. That, to me, would just help confirm suspicions that NASA and other governments routinely censor these images because there is something really worth hiding.

The show was generally poorly put together and there was a lot of chaff making it harder to find the wheat. I really think that that is an intentional tactic. There were some interesting things I hadn't seen before and I would really like to see someone compare and contrast old images with new images of the same areas, either in hopes of greater clarity, or to show evidence that new imagery is so different from the old that it proves that images of those places have been sanitized.

Im lost...What could possibly
be the motive or agenda of
this film?!?!?

From either side of the coin.....

Everyone says "Follow the money"...
How far back do we need to go and
who might be there?!?!?

Has anybody seen a positive review of this show ANYWHERE? Even the SyFy channel took down the Facebook page for the show after people who had been interviewed on it were panning it.

originally posted by: Totemic
The newer high res images from the Moon and Mars are awesome to look at and study. Some interesting things have been found and are up for debate, but old anomalies not showing up on new, higher resolution images doesn't prove anything. The assumption is that if they were there, NASA knew they were there and definitely would Photoshop them out of the new data.

All data processing for the Lunar Reconnaissance Orbiter cameras is done by graduate students and post-docs at State Univ. Arizona. NASA doesn't get to see the images until ASU releases them. So your assumption is wrong.

Brief USA Today review of this awful documentary:

www.usatoday.com...

Syfy offers one of those films that will amuse those who take it as spoof and reinforce those who believe its claims, which in this case involve the belief that aliens have established a base on the moon in preparation for a War of the Worlds invasion. It's safe to say that Syfy doesn't care whether any truth's involved, as long as you watch.

a reply to: Asertus

Or so we are told.

After watching some of the show and reading the posts here I have to put forward the notion that the real goal of the NSA/GHCQ/ETC is the continual monitoring and censoring/control of all alien related data. The terrorist/personal intel is just frosting on the cake....

Shows like this are just testing the social waters and feeding disinformation......they feed a bunch of bunk and watch the new believers drink it in while the old hats dither over ancient evidence until they no longer want to keep searching.

The aliens have been on the Moon since the 1960's prepping for invasion?

WTF is taking them so long?

Harte

I watched the whole movie and came to the conclusion that:

1. All shown so called anomalies were either pretty vague or
2. Turned out to be some natural formation in the end when high res pics were shown in comparison

to 1.

It's a bunch of colorized pixels mostly. You happen to have some old moon pics and then people tend to imaginanize kind of everything into it. Playing with contrast and all kind of simple Photoshop filters won't bring you anywhere, imo.

In general the possibility, that some alien civilization once stepped into this solar system here and built some station(s) on the moon, isn't something that i would'nt expect in the long run but that doesn't mean, that just because i want to believe something it becomes reality.

I mean, seriously. Look at those "structures". For example the disc that some people, within the documantary, think of, could be some kind of wrecked space ship or something. Take away this blueish nonesense and you will hardly find something to even speculate about!

The dish...yeah the dish. Must be some big radio telescope on moon of course! As if ET would come here to built something, that would be totally unecessary compared to the technology you'd have developed as species, that travels between the stars. Most likely a system, to observe another planet would be kind of an intellectual swarm of bio-technical insects rather then some stupid 10km wide radio dish. So...watch the bugs and flys in your home , they might tell your secrets to some alien team above.

The only thing i still wonder about is this rocky formation, that looks, like if there's a ship stranded in a crater. I knew that thing before this docu and also looked up the original images some years ago.

That is what i'd call a mystery. It still could be some unusual formation but at least that's something you can use your PS -filters on

originally posted by: Harte
The aliens have been on the Moon since the 1960's prepping for invasion?
WTF is taking them so long?

Their Kickstarter campaign is not going as well as planned.