Ultra-rich man's letter: "To My Fellow Filthy Rich Americans: The Pitchforks Are Coming"

originally posted by: jrod
a reply to: SheopleNation

The gap in the US's wealth is the largest now than it has ever has been.

I do not think I need we need a history lesson again. Large gaps of inequalities lead to revolution and war.

No time for revolution if you work three $8 jobs to get by.

Who do you think will revolt?

The rich are busy continuing to make their millions, the poor are busy working or thinking about how to survive into the next month.

originally posted by: theantediluvian
You don't need much more than a passing familiarity with history to recognize the repeating pattern.

EDIT:

Not everyone gets it though. Remember these pictures?

I'm not being sarcastic here, I actually don't remember those pictures...who are those people?

a reply to: BobM88
I didn't know who they were either, so don't feel bad.
I sort of figured that they were mocking protestors, so I searched it up and sure enough:
WALL STREETERS RESPOND TO YOUNG PROTESTERS Drink wine, laugh, take photos from balconies

originally posted by: jrod

The gap in the US's wealth is the largest now than it has ever has been.

Well of course it is jrod. If they keep on letting in more, and more, and more, and more poor people while there are not even enough jobs for U.S citizens to begin with, what the hell exactly do you expect the result to be my friend? I mean, am I the only one missing something here? We cannot shoulder World Poverty, period. What Nation can?

I do not think I need we need a history lesson again. Large gaps of inequalities lead to revolution and war.

Yes they do, I agree. However just as before, those gaps of inequalities will return within a decade in any Country, and even more so today. It was poverty that led to the Bolshevik and French Revolution, but it was the rights of Man that led to the American Revolution. If Cuba turns out to be a success, remains to be seen. I believe they will turn Capitalist within the next decade. Many other examples as well, but too many to address here.

Look, We can't change the reality of natural law, but we can at least try to compromise. To me that is the solution. With that being said, no matter what, there will always be a rich and poor. How wide that gap should be, also should be the discussion that people are all having in order to finally work out and compromise on these issues. More bloodshed will not solve anything whatsoever. ~$heopleNation

a reply to: defcon5

Yeah I remember that, and it was a perfect example of how some of these assholes just do not get the fact that many people are fed up with the corruption and double standards. Them dancing out there on the balcony during those protests makes that perfectly clear. ~$heopleNation

a reply to: KarensHoliday

Family expansion will even out much of this concentrated wealth. But something more sinister is if we get into a hyper inflation, like Germany in 1923, all of the debts will be cancelled. The bankers lost their shirts in the German hyper inflation, because it happened virtually overnight. If they could have controlled it," say quantitative easing", then the bankers would have owned everyone's wealth. The Socialist Weimar Republic staggered on until 1933, when the Nazis rode in on white horses, and trampled what was left of it. What this dude is postulating, is way too simple. It will come down on our heads in waves, and no one can know who will come out on top.

I believe that the real instability, is something virtually no one, in this country, addresses. That the neat rectangular States, were never meant to be able to bite back at the Feds. They were always meant to be Grand Masonic Lodges, who took their orders dutifully from Wash. D.C. Hawaii, Alaska, Texas, California, Florida, and possibly New York State, are indeed vestigial Provinces. Oregon was one, but has been badly split up. Montana and Idaho are surveyor's mistakes, and not really European styled Provinces, although they are certainly large enough to be.

Think how ISIS has over run Iraq, and how Washington's Third Prophecy points to something like this originating in the Far West, and turning, violently on the Eastern States. My guess is that these Eastern Seaboard "Lodges", are so proud, that they will never amalgamate into workable Provinces, in time to defend themselves. BTW, Nostradamus trumps Washington by calling this entity by its real name; "New France". This is basically what Greater Louisiana was originally called. Will it rise like the Phoenix from the ashes of the Free Masons, and rule North America, once more?

a reply to: Chiftel

Where do you live?

Surely the place I live is irrelevant to the topic under discussion?

I live in a place that, during my lifetime, has seen an attempted (and failed) military coup, two failed popular revolutions, an ethnic war that lasted a generation and, currently, the occasional religious pogrom. I have seen plenty of corpses: the bodies of summary execution victims, mostly, dumped on the side of the road, burnt on tyres or strung up from bridges as an example to others. One of my best friends, someone I'd known since childhood and one of the leading intellectuals of his generation, was murdered by a government death-squad; the head of state who ordered that execution was later blown up by a bomb. I once had to help my father change a tyre in the middle of a burning suburb during an ethnic riot.

Satisfied?

Of course, I could be lying. It happens that I am not.

First, the two ends can go to their play corners and kill each other. Their historical ignorance is only surpassed by their willingness to believe demagogues, religious and political. Some people end up being leaders because they have vision of a different future. Many "leaders" want to be leaders to herd the mob, and feel their power being multiplied by such mobs of the ignorant and slothful. Slothful meaning stupid, people unwilling to unlearn their silly notions, and cure their ignorance with factual education.
The man speaks truth, and that scares people especially those who have only knee jerk reactions learned at the feet of their "leaders." Inequality has always led to revolution, the pitchforks. Pitchforks being the only weapons left to those feeling powerless and ill treated by society. The leaders, be they Mao Tze Dung or Hitler, have to blame others for the misfortunes of society and history. The problem lays in the social order not "others" or the stars. Society must balance the needs and desires of its least and most successful members. For a couple of decades, this was managed in America. Strange how the wealthy in the 1950's paid a 50 percent income tax and felt both happy and able to earn even more. The not wealth believed, quite rightly, that hard work and inventive ideas could land them in that heavenly tax bracket. For you ignorant ones, my first job paid a dollar fifty cents an hour. Luckily it was mostly at night, after 6 pm, it went to a dollar sixty five cents an hour, for nearly six hours. I managed nicely on that before enlisting in the military, at roughly twenty five cents an hour including room, board, and clothing allowance. I wasn't drafted or worried about it. Enlisting was a responsibility of citizenship, the way I was brought up.
The likes of the John Birch Society and Confederate want to be's, at least kept their seditious ideas and words to a minimum. Now, their children the Tea Party and others openly talk sedition. Don't think so, read about Arron Burr, a vice president in the early Republic. Religious "leaders" want to have their version of the "Godly Nation" presented from the pulpit and blessed by the preacher, pastor, father.
Just reading these fools gives me heart burn, and wonder how they managed to not kill themselves with ignorance.
What has always been America's saving grace has been a willingness to talk and make changes. To misquote a famous man, any jack ass can kick a barn down, it takes a man to build one. The question, as always, before us is, are we willing to be men and women and build or are we going listen to the lead jack asses, yelling from television, radio, and religious organizations, and destroy it.

a reply to: Brandyjack

the problem is seperating jack-asses from non-jack asses.

a reply to: SheopleNation

It was not the rights of man that led to the American revolution. It was the fact that the bulk of wealth in the country was held by foreign nobles. Same reason we saw the revolutions in South and Central America following WWII.

originally posted by: alienjuggalo
How much of his wealth is he willing to give up to make things more equal? Put up or shut up is what I say.

none - he says that a fairer world will make him richer.

It's not a simple concept for many to understand tho.

a reply to: Chiftel

You obviously don't understand economics.

A completely communist society, while workable, is more prone to corruption.

But a moderate capitalist society with antitrust laws, protectionism, and domestically founded interests in place, which are pro worker and pro business, will flourish.

Essentially we've only ever had that for a few brief spans of time before the likes of Rockafeller and Rothschild moved in and unleashed the likes of Satan upon this country.

JFK was killed because he believed in this country printing it's own money, not the bankers.

a reply to: smarterthanyou

oh is chiftel a communist?
there is not a critter known as communism. it's all this:

originally posted by: smarterthanyou
a reply to: Chiftel
Essentially we've only ever had that for a few brief spans of time before the likes of Rockafeller and Rothschild moved in and unleashed the likes of Satan upon this country.

TBF the USA has never actually had this - the R 'n R's influence dates back to the 19th century, and society certainly wasn't any fairer before tehn.

A few places have had it in isolated timeframes - eg New Zealand and Australia probably managed it for the 50's through late 70's or early 80s - then in NZ "Rogernomics" (free marketism) took over from 1984, and in Australia Hawke and Keating acted similarly from about 1983.

a reply to: KarensHoliday

Yea...
"Pitchforks"...
We're bringin NOT EVEN knives to a gun party? haha...
THAT'S our bigger problem.
Don't think he doesn't know that, as he's stating it quite clearly for you and them.
"Pitchforks" vs tanks, cannons, SATELITES & DRONES folks...
time to get your tech on or good luck with your pitchfork.
Do you even have a pitchfork? Knife? Gun? Drone? Satellite?
Probably not lol.

I know you're asking for citations, but since most politicians give us nothing but rhetoric on both sides of the aisle anyway, I thought the following might be helpful:

From what I understand, the issue is living wages that go beyond State and Federal minimum wages, so that an individual employed full time could at least be able to meet basic needs and self sustain based on local economic conditions. So the actual living wage figures will vary across communities. Also be aware that there are a handful of states that have passed legislation banning communities from establishing living wages. I happen to live in one of them, Arizona, despite the fact that it has one of the highest poverty rates in the Nation. It looks like they passed this ban right under our noses last year.

I found a living wage calculator developed by MIT and Poverty in America that will plug in city and county data, that represents some, but not all factors that many communities are using to support living wage increases here:

Living Wage Calculator



a reply to: Chiftel

it was a funny thing to find out that during OCCUPY WALLSTREET, their main headquarters was the lobby of the german deutsch bank, who were up to their necks in the 2008 crash. that was deliberate. the housing bubble was a triple whammy: 1) they bankrupted thousands of american businesses overnight thereby putting millions out of work, 2) they robbed the american people and senior citizens of their life savings and pensions and 3) they consolidated all the money and therefore power and influence, into the hands of 4 groups. they had a chance to rescue the american people and senior citizens but instead rescued one of the big 4 and would not even consider rescuing the other institution that collapsed, taking with it, the life savings and investments of pretty much everybody in the country but themselves.

and they did all that, for their socialist one world government. already the european nations have formed a super state of social democracies inching toward the final goal of totalitarianism.

a reply to: kubacs

unfortunately, even increasing minimum wage won't help as long as we have a completely out of kilter trade market. there use to be laws governing trade balance, but that was removed so the big companies could move their businesses to china. import and export fees are imbalanced. obama could fix all that in a heartbeat by just reinstituting trade balance but he'd probably be assassinated.

originally posted by: Astyanax
a reply to: Chiftel

Where do you live?

Surely the place I live is irrelevant to the topic under discussion?

I live in a place that, during my lifetime, has seen an attempted (and failed) military coup, two failed popular revolutions, an ethnic war that lasted a generation and, currently, the occasional religious pogrom. I have seen plenty of corpses: the bodies of summary execution victims, mostly, dumped on the side of the road, burnt on tyres or strung up from bridges as an example to others. One of my best friends, someone I'd known since childhood and one of the leading intellectuals of his generation, was murdered by a government death-squad; the head of state who ordered that execution was later blown up by a bomb. I once had to help my father change a tyre in the middle of a burning suburb during an ethnic riot.

Satisfied?

Of course, I could be lying. It happens that I am not.

WOW! I am so sorry that you had to witness all of that. I do not believe you are lying and wish that nobody would have to see that, but sadly I know that some people, somewhere will always have something like this happening around them. Most of us posting on here will never know what you know about the frailty of human life, faulty government, etc and would never want to. I hope that your circumstances make you a better person and part of the solution, rather than a continuation of the problem. I feel that they will : )

I am a realist, and maybe even a hippie tree hugger type, and I think that even as a hippie tree hugger type, which I don't really care for the term, but am using it for argument sake, that there needs to be that voice heard as well..all sides actually, if we ever want to have a true representative government. We all need to go back to being heard and represented as what is the common good, even though I do not think it ever was that way for very long.

I guess I am done now...peace to you all. I think we deserve it.

Instead we have the US and European Union pushing TAFTA, elevating corporations to Nation States. The situation is dismal beyond belief. a reply to: undo