Ultra-rich man's letter: "To My Fellow Filthy Rich Americans: The Pitchforks Are Coming"

originally posted by: Chiftel

originally posted by: fartsmeller46
And you perpetuate the myth of the left that conservatives are all racist and rich with no regard for the downtrodden.This is of course left wing propaganda and it is a sweeping generalization of the many based on a few.This sort of generalization is wrong when used against any group not just when it fits your point of view.I am conservative and have worked a blue collar job for 25 years.It has more to do with maintaining a moral standard in society and giving a man a hand up rather than a hand out.If a man does well in life through hard work and dedication then that man should be admired not crucified.I believe in people and i think most can rise to the occasion and make a living if they work hard and forget the poor pitiful me thought process.
If you think for a minute that ultra rich crooked bankers and CEO`s who steal and embezzle to the detriment of society are all republicans then you need to get out of the vacuum you live in and learn some facts.Many of the top billionaire crooks in this country are democrats and it has nothing to do with party lines and everything to do with greed.

Sorry but your reply is simply a diatribe of right wing platitudes and falsehoods.

No one gets right through their hard work alone.

There is no way you can become rich without appropriating other people's labour or the fruits thereof.

It's as simple as that.

You see, the rich man didn't design or built the cars he owns, the mansions he owns, the yachts he owns.

He doesn't work in his factories.

He didn't build his factories.

You think you can become rich through hard work?!

Tell that to the working poor. Tell that to the homeless who became such through no fault other than themselves or someone in their family falling ill.

Wow. There really is a fundamental disconnect here.

I didn`t say that hard work alone will make you rich but it certainly has a lot to do with it. What i said was hard work and self reliance are the corner stones of conservatism.You really seem to think that most people with money didn`t earn it but had it fall into there laps,and that`s the biggest disconnect we have here today.PS-Working hard manifests itself in many ways,it could be blue collar or white collar.Using your head doesn`t diminish the amount of stress or the number of sleepless nights you spend on a project.Hard work is hard work.If you could quit lumping every person who`s been successful into one group that you see as despicable and self serving maybe you can get past your prejudice.So hypocritical.

He knows what's coming but nobody will be able to stop it. At least he's smart enough to see it coming. Most aren't, or think it cannot, or will not, ever happen.

Too many people talking about them and what they've done to America. How the working class have been enslaved and kept in financial trouble. How the poor struggles like some 3rd-world country. I think the backlash will be even worse than this yuppie trash can imagine. I predict that maniacs will start hunting them through sniper rifles, not to mention the more desperate scenarios of burning down or the bombing of their communities. That's how bad I think it will get.

Great read. It is too bad so many are blind to this reality.

I posted this article on another site and the response I got immediately was alarming. The poster is in his 60's, a Tort lawyer, and makes a little over 100k a year:

Complete nonsense. Most people don't give a damn about inequality. This is a phony crisis manufactured by the PiC in an effort to shift the blame for the horrible economy from himself to the "evil rich." Most of the public aren't buying it. The exception are the progs, who will buy pretty much anything the PiC says.
Moreover, the poor in this country aren't exactly suffering. They would be upper middle class in most of the world.
Soooo ... no pitchforks.

It amazes me that someone can be successful yet so far off the mark that it is dangerous. There are many others in the $50K+ income range who share this view. The sad thing is they are the ones getting squeezed the most by the gap of wealth, yet they have been manipulated to blame Obama or 'welfare queens' for the economy's problems.

originally posted by: Astyanax
a reply to: Chiftel

Of course you have to be evil to be rich.

I've been agreeing with you and starring your posts all this time, but this is going too far.

Like Bluesma, I know lots of rich, even very rich people, and they are no more (and no less) evil than poor people.

I was thinking today about how it must have been to be a king in times when kings were despots. Since kingship was also hereditary, men didn't (by and large) get to choose to be king. It was something they were born to. But once they achieved kingship, they had to be forever vigilant of those who might seek to depose them, often by dint of regicide.

Some of the shifts to which they were driven in order to do that were undoubtedly evil, but the motive was simple self-preservation.

Imagine the anxiety, the suspicion, the justified paranoia that must have engendered.

The rich — whether they have made their fortunes or inherited them — are in a similar position. Being in that position creates a certain mindset; it also obliges you to do certain things to stay alive, well and solvent. Even those who do not aspire to prey upon the rich are still envious enough to hate them, and many would do them harm if only they could. If you doubt it, honestly examine your own feelings.

Of course nobody 'deserves' a Ferrari. But Bluesma wasn't saying that. You were saying that.

Have a care that you don't, as in the old Yogic saying, become what you hate.

Yeah, cause giving most of their income away would, like, surely kill them.

That wasn't my point, about the Ferraris. That was just a prop to make my point.

My point is: what do the rich contribute, in real terms, to society for all the reap from it and deny others? What value do they provide?

What do they do to earn their keep?

Nothing. They just appropriate other people's labour and the fruits thereof.

At most they invest money.

Which is conjured up out of thin air for them by their banks, which they also own.

So basically, the rich don't do nothing. And you don't get rich by doing stuff.

You get rich by owning stuff. Specifically means of production. Including means of production of money (literally), which are the banks. Banks are money factories.

You own a bank, you're legally entitled to loan at interest money you don't have. Alternatively, you might also think of .

You you are making excuses for them.

Why? Why do you feel the need to make excuses for them, empathize with them?

# them.

Why should I or anyone care about them or empathize with them?

Do they empathize with the poor? Do they empathize with me?

No.

Can I go and just take a piece of food from one of their factories or retail chains if I'm hungry?

No. I'd go to jail.

Can I counterfeit money and loan it out at interest like their banks (NOT JUST THE CENTRAL BANKS, which only issue physical cash, which is like 3% of the total money supply, the rest is electronic money with no cash backing it issued privately by private banks) do?

No. I'd go to jail.

Can I simply go steal the fruit of someone's labour, like an employer can?

No, of course not.

The only reason the rich are finally even starting to concede to minimum wage hikes is, simply, that they've finally seen the writing on the wall: self-preservation.

Hopefully, it's too little too late.

I want to see me some heads rollin', rollin', rollin'!

a reply to: Chiftel

well there IS a difference between a banker, investment firm, irs, federal reserve and the average rich person. the average rich person more often than not, got there by hard work, some of it physical, some of it not. the ones that bug me are these types and notice, everyone suffers from this stuff, not just minorities:


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a reply to: KarensHoliday

The problem in this country is that with this guy’s well made message you will have certain people start screaming “SOCIALISM”

The things he speaks of didn’t happen out of a vacuum or overnight, there are political moves made by people in this country, such as the attack on unions, the constant crying of many of “cut taxes for the rich” and that was done by Ronald Reagan that diminished this countries growth considerably and allowed the wolves into the sheep’s bin.

As well as (to show this is not necessarily a partisan thing) initiation of NAFTA by Bill Clinton and the taking down of the Glass-Steegle act, WHICH THEN AGAIN ALLOWED THE WOLVES INTO THE SHEEP’S BIN TO DEVOUR THE INNOCENT BY THE GREEDY RICH.

So now this destruction of the middle class is ingrained into the political structure of this country, in other world now every time one tries to correct this the GOP will star yelling “SOCIALISM”

"Cut taxes more and more for the rich"

And the democrats, though not as bad as the GOP, still allow themselves to be bribed by the elite rich, as in Glass-Steegle and the cutting of welfare and the abandonment of true progressive policies by Obama and the Clinton's.

The dems have sold out and the GOP have always been in the pockets of the rich

So this guy is right we are probably doomed.

a reply to: Chiftel

What do the rich contribute, in real terms, to society for all the reap from it and deny others? What value do they provide?

That has nothing to do with whether an individual person is good or evil. Some are rich and some are poor. This will never change until wealth ceases to be the most widely-used index of relative status. I believe we are discussing the diminution of inequality, not its elimination; that is, by our very nature as social animals, impossible. If wealth were not the measure of status, something else would be — as indeed, until the late eighteenth century, something else was.

Why should I or anyone care about them or empathize with them?

They are human. If you cease to have concern or empathy for other human beings, you lose a little bit of your own humanity.

I want to see me some heads rollin', rollin', rollin'!

I have seen this. I never, ever want to see it again.

a reply to: undo

the average rich person more often than not, got there by hard work

The poor work much, much harder than the rich.

And hard work is no guarantor of wealth. For every poor person who became rich by hard work, there are a thousand others who worked harder, with nothing to show for it but debt, indigence, misery and an early death.

By and large, people become rich by being clever, by seizing the moment, and by being willing to live with risk. Or else by being born rich.

can't happen soon enough.

originally posted by: fartsmeller46

originally posted by: Chiftel

originally posted by: fartsmeller46
And you perpetuate the myth of the left that conservatives are all racist and rich with no regard for the downtrodden.This is of course left wing propaganda and it is a sweeping generalization of the many based on a few.This sort of generalization is wrong when used against any group not just when it fits your point of view.I am conservative and have worked a blue collar job for 25 years.It has more to do with maintaining a moral standard in society and giving a man a hand up rather than a hand out.If a man does well in life through hard work and dedication then that man should be admired not crucified.I believe in people and i think most can rise to the occasion and make a living if they work hard and forget the poor pitiful me thought process.
If you think for a minute that ultra rich crooked bankers and CEO`s who steal and embezzle to the detriment of society are all republicans then you need to get out of the vacuum you live in and learn some facts.Many of the top billionaire crooks in this country are democrats and it has nothing to do with party lines and everything to do with greed.

Sorry but your reply is simply a diatribe of right wing platitudes and falsehoods.

No one gets right through their hard work alone.

There is no way you can become rich without appropriating other people's labour or the fruits thereof.

It's as simple as that.

You see, the rich man didn't design or built the cars he owns, the mansions he owns, the yachts he owns.

He doesn't work in his factories.

He didn't build his factories.

You think you can become rich through hard work?!

Tell that to the working poor. Tell that to the homeless who became such through no fault other than themselves or someone in their family falling ill.

Wow. There really is a fundamental disconnect here.

I didn`t say that hard work alone will make you rich but it certainly has a lot to do with it. What i said was hard work and self reliance are the corner stones of conservatism.You really seem to think that most people with money didn`t earn it but had it fall into there laps,and that`s the biggest disconnect we have here today.PS-Working hard manifests itself in many ways,it could be blue collar or white collar.Using your head doesn`t diminish the amount of stress or the number of sleepless nights you spend on a project.Hard work is hard work.If you could quit lumping every person who`s been successful into one group that you see as despicable and self serving maybe you can get past your prejudice.So hypocritical.

There was never enough money in circulation for everyone to work hard, be self reliant and eventually become wealthy. That is Impossible. Every dollar in circulation is borrowed into the economy. If every debt was to be paid off they THERE WOULD BE NO MONEY in circulation. Under the the system of tax and borrow, the only way for the uber rich to end up with so much wealth and no debt means that thousands have to be IN DEBT for that one wealthy person to be so wealthy.

Even if we all had the same education and drive for success, it would still end up in a game of musical chairs.

originally posted by: undo
a reply to: Chiftel

well there IS a difference between a banker, investment firm, irs, federal reserve and the average rich person. the average rich person more often than not, got there by hard work, some of it physical, some of it not. the ones that bug me are these types and notice, everyone suffers from this stuff, not just minorities:

Banking is inherently fraudulent. It is either legal naked fraud or legalized counterfeiting, take your pick.

Anyone benefiting from it, either directly or indirectly, whether they realize it or not, is benefiting from fraud. Either their own, if they're bank owners or bank officers, or others'.

a reply to: KarensHoliday

Listen to what this man says.......He is progressive filth. PTB are smart and this man is one of them. The time is coming and coming fast and they ushered it in.



PTB makes things so bad for the common man he will demand change. They are in control of the change not us. We remain slaves and they start the cycle over again. Listen to what this scum bag wants he stated it in the last paragraph. More government control over the people.



I will say it again the only way to fix this is to get the progressive mindset out of schools,homes,government. Also we need to be a republic ruled by law again and not a democracy ruled by an oligarchy.



I can prove what I am saying he called America a Feudal society.........Progressive mindset.

a reply to: Astyanax

that's why i said, some of it physical, some of it not. some mental, intellectual work, is just as exhausting as physical. just ask any students at term paper time.

originally posted by: Astyanax
I have seen this. I never, ever want to see it again.

On TV?

a reply to: Chiftel

oh i know the federal reserve system sucks but if we didn't have the current set up, there would be no safety nets at all. it should be different, of course, but whatever we do, it has to be done carefully and thoughtfully and not as a result of rampaging down the street lynching people and stealing. anarchy just advances the the plots of people like the "men who crashed the world". you go around, lynch people that have more pennies than you do, and when the dust settles, the guys who really have all the power have just used you to eradicate their competition. now they own the world and will spend the next 200 years, making you and your offspring feel like idiots.

playing on people's jealousy is not the solution and never has been. but we just keep going back to that model to solve our problems. the bolsheviks even shot all the people that could run the machines in the factories. once that ball starts rolling, it eats everything in its path. just because you're in a blood lust frenzy doesn't mean you should act on it. at least, not in the way you're suggesting.

Chiftel
On TV?

No, with my own two eyes. I don't live where you live.

a reply to: undo

just ask any students at term paper time.

I don't have to ask them, intellectual work is what makes my living.

Intelligence, opportunism and risk tolerance have nothing to do with hard work. And most intellectuals, madam, are as poor as churchmice.

originally posted by: Astyanax

Chiftel
On TV?

No, with my own two eyes. I don't live where you live.

Where do you live?

originally posted by: undo
a reply to: Chiftel

well there IS a difference between a banker, investment firm, irs, federal reserve and the average rich person. the average rich person more often than not, got there by hard work, some of it physical, some of it not. the ones that bug me are these types and notice, everyone suffers from this stuff, not just minorities:

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The best part of the video you posted was Hank Paulson... "The British screwed us"

That man has balls of epic proportions.

If anyone believes that the system will be taken down by a bunch of pitchforks, you better think again. This isn't the early 20th century after all. It's not as if they are not in control of the most powerful military in world, and without that military behind any movement, taking action would be nothing short of suicidal.

With that being said, One has to wonder why they are trying to kill the middle class, because would that not bring on exactly what we are discussing? I mean, even the turn coat McCain is wanting amnesty for thousands and thousands of central American children, not to mention illegals who are already here from various Nations. I wish everybody could be happy, no children should go to bed hungry in this day and age. How much can a Country take though my friends?

Why would you bring in more poor people when there are not enough jobs to begin with? Why would you want to increase the nanny state with some, when it's already heading towards bankruptcy? If Obama wanted to help the poor, why would you force mandated coverage when many of these people can't afford it, or to live in general to begin with? Why would you impose fines on an already struggling group of folks? Why are the borders wide open if America is in such danger?

I don't like to blame the rich for everything like some people, but I also am not blind to many of the points being made. I am not poor, but I am not ultra rich either. I guess I am probably upper middle class, just to be clear as to not be seen as a hypocrite. I don't think we should hand things out to people, you should earn your keep in this world. At the same time, it's disturbing to see how we throw around billions here, and billions there, to all these other Nations, it's insanity.

My god we could have lifted everyone off their feet here at home with all the money that has been pissed away over there in that desert crap hole, and I am not anti military, and I understand the strategy of why we are over there, it's about the battle for resources, mostly against Red China. Just seems like madness, complete madness with no end in sight.

Nobody can deny that the cost of living has skyrocketed. I often wonder how some of these people with large families can even survive. It's as if someone wants to see a collapse, but that would take their lifestyle away, so why are they doing it? Could Obama be just a hand picked and groomed foreign agent sent to cause the fall of the United States of America? Hey at this point in this crazy world, nothing would surprise me anymore. I wish I had the answers. Now I got a headache. Looks like it's back to Space Exploration. ~$heopleNation