Russell Brand: Fox News is ‘fanatical, terrorist, propagandist’ and ‘more dangerous than ISIS�

a reply to: BO XIAN

so what you're saying is that you haven't watched them recently, and you can't use the internet to conjure up an example to back your assertion.

thank you for being honest.

i mean you're still insane, and full of crap, but at least you're honest about it....and i'm not ripping on you, or making fun of you, or any of that, i'm being serious as a heart attack......i do, genuinely, value honesty....so again, sincerely, thank you for that.

a reply to: Daedalus

It's not a raging priority for me.

I have about 5 decades of TV viewing for comparison. I have extensive reading research on the related issues for comparison.

I don't have a low IQ and I'm above average informed.

Believe whatever you wish about my perspective. Your views on my views don't cause me to lose anything.

Cheers.

a reply to: purplemer

Clearly your not familiar with Judge Jeanine Pirro, shes one of the more libertarian people on the channel. She tends to be emotional during certain monologues. ISIS is al Qaeda. Brand is an idiot, just another dumb entertainer who thinks he knows about politics. Brand like our king and savior, lord, chairman maobama wants to help Al Qaeda,(oops I mean ISIS) storm through the country and kill all the innocents we left for dead.

How loving and liberal of him. The judge is right, extreme language, but right on the point that al qaeda should not be given an entire country. I find it sad and disgusting that people would condemn the people of Iraq to beheading s, torture, and rape because we came in and screwed up their country. More sheep leading sheep.

originally posted by: Daedalus
i'ma just chime in here right quick.....

i kinda like you, Marlin, but i don't think you're quite right on this one...

originally posted by: MarlinGrace
There is a few differences here, first of all we have a permission system here where you have to ask for authorization to shoot and kill anyone.

if you lie in order to get that permission, what difference does it make if you asked or not? you still carried out the act under false pretenses...

Secondly these people clearly had weapons, I am very familiar with firearms and the RPG stuck out the most, it wasn't clear if the reporters in the video had weapons or not I would suspect from the helo you couldn't tell.

No.....the whole thrust of the thing is that they claimed that the reporter had an AK, or a missile launcher...it was a camera. i'm also familiar with firearms...what they reported, when requesting authorization to engage, was NOT what was actually present on the ground.



so did american contractors. if you remember, blackwater got themselves a fair bit of notoriety, after reports showed up in the news that they had been found to have been driving around iraqi neighborhoods in the middle of the night, indiscriminately firing into people's homes, and cars...so don't act like american occupation forces never did anything distasteful, or evil over there..

Any reporter running around jihadis takes his life in his own hand, just like ours did during the second war armed or not. If you remember one of Fox News reporters took a nasty head wound from an RPG, and Daniel Pearl lost his head televised in full youtube color

what made them jihadis? is it because they're brown? or wear funny clothes? or because they speak arabic, or farsi?...you do understand that not every person in the middle east is a terrorist, or a jihadist, right?

Lastly for the children how could have the pilots known? They were inside the van out of sight.
This is one of those horrible things that happens in war, maybe one should ask why would you take your kids into a free fire zone?

it's kinda hard NOT to take your kids into a free fire zone, when most of your goddamn country is classified by it's occupier as a free fire zone...

the easy way to avoid these kinds of things, is not to lie about weapons, so you can light some people up because you're bored...hell, if the federal government had adhered to this principle, we never even would have gone to iraq....

You only kinda like me? It's ok I am a realist not everyone is going to find this old guy appealing.

Anyway there was no lying, look at 3.41 and you will see people just under the compass carrying rifles that appear to AK's. At 4.05 someone peeks around the corner of the wall and clearly knows the helo is there. At 4.09 at the same corner the same person produces what looks like a RPG as he looks at the helo. They never said in the video hey that reporter has an AK.

Replay it and check for yourself.

I don't remember BW employees shooting into homes. I do remember 4 hanging from a bridge. I am not a fan of BW they have done a few distasteful things in this country. As I said in my post it did appear overboard.

I guess what made the jihadis is walking down the street with reporters carrying rifles, why else would reporters be there. As I said on my post as a reporter you take your life into your own hands in a war zone, why else would US reports wear vest and helmets.

I guess my interpretation of a free fire zone is when you still have bleeding people on the ground just after being shot up and you are johnny on the spot bringing your kids to the rescue. Again how were the pilots supposed to see this? Go back to 3.41 and since you're knowledgeable about weapons tell me what you see, do those look like cameras to you? You're whole premise of a lie is based on no firearms, check again. And go to youtube where you can see it larger.

And I kinda like you to, did you look at the ISIS video for comparison thats what the post from purplemer was about. They can't compare. Watch both.

originally posted by: pyramid head
a reply to: purplemer

Clearly your not familiar with Judge Jeanine Pirro, shes one of the more libertarian people on the channel. She tends to be emotional during certain monologues. ISIS is al Qaeda. Brand is an idiot, just another dumb entertainer who thinks he knows about politics. Brand like our king and savior, lord, chairman maobama wants to help Al Qaeda,(oops I mean ISIS) storm through the country and kill all the innocents we left for dead.

How loving and liberal of him. The judge is right, extreme language, but right on the point that al qaeda should not be given an entire country. I find it sad and disgusting that people would condemn the people of Iraq to beheading s, torture, and rape because we came in and screwed up their country. More sheep leading sheep.

So what do you propose as a solution? Staying in Iraq and setting them up to be stable and self sufficient is a 50 to 100 year commitment. How many trillions are we supposed to spend? How many lives are we supposed to lose? We ruined Iraq but we can't fix it. How many other places could we improve? How many lives could be saved if we could earmark 40 trillion to improving the rest of the world?

It might not be our definition of freedom but if we leave them alone in Iraq they'll atleast be living in peace.

originally posted by: Aazadan

originally posted by: pyramid head
a reply to: purplemer

Clearly your not familiar with Judge Jeanine Pirro, shes one of the more libertarian people on the channel. She tends to be emotional during certain monologues. ISIS is al Qaeda. Brand is an idiot, just another dumb entertainer who thinks he knows about politics. Brand like our king and savior, lord, chairman maobama wants to help Al Qaeda,(oops I mean ISIS) storm through the country and kill all the innocents we left for dead.

How loving and liberal of him. The judge is right, extreme language, but right on the point that al qaeda should not be given an entire country. I find it sad and disgusting that people would condemn the people of Iraq to beheading s, torture, and rape because we came in and screwed up their country. More sheep leading sheep.

So what do you propose as a solution? Staying in Iraq and setting them up to be stable and self sufficient is a 50 to 100 year commitment. How many trillions are we supposed to spend? How many lives are we supposed to lose? We ruined Iraq but we can't fix it. How many other places could we improve? How many lives could be saved if we could earmark 40 trillion to improving the rest of the world?

It might not be our definition of freedom but if we leave them alone in Iraq they'll atleast be living in peace.

I know a simple fix would not be to spend several years arming al Qaeda(ISIS) and use them has a globalist army to run through and torture, kill people and remove governments. Your argument would hold water is we invaded iraq then left and let nature take its course. We did not....

We spent years arming al qaeda to tear through the middle east for the globalists agenda using them as a proxy army. Now after we invaded a country, dismantled their government, killed over a million civilians, you think we should let our proxy army that obozo wants to give 400 million to, leave the people of iraq in "peace" through rape, torture, and be headings? Nice.

a reply to: pyramid head

hah; haha

blood for the blood god; skulls for the skull throne
khorne demands tribute!
erps.
I mean lucrative contracts for the military contractors.
Profits for their shareholders!

[neo-con] demands tribute!

originally posted by: NonsensicalUserName
a reply to: pyramid head

hah; haha

blood for the blood god; skulls for the skull throne
khorne demands tribute!
erps.
I mean lucrative contracts for the military contractors.
Profits for their shareholders!

[neo-con] demands tribute!

Don't you mean money for the banksters via proxy armies?
Al Qaeda funded by your beloved god-king obozo and the mighty state executed 1700 innocent people recently. Go back to your delusional world where everything is caused by fox news and the koch brothers. Baaa Baaaa

a reply to: MarlinGrace

Heck yes BW did get up to stuff like that. So did the brits. Like that British guy that was arrested by the Iraqi forces and detained in a police station for shooting into crowds of people as he drove. They bust him out. An SAS man.

Really bud

War is brutal and no side plays fair..

a reply to: nenothtu

They're not there because the US bombed Iraq, they are there because the US killed Saddam Hussein, so he ain't around to put the brakes on it any more.

Yes there are there because of that. If a power vacuum had not been created this would not be happening now..

a reply to: rebelv

Thank you. Glad it was of use to you...

purp..

a reply to: angelchemuel

If you think your freedom is given to you by your government you have lost your gravy. As a human being you are born free. Government is a concept you choose to give power over yourself. Explain to me how relinquishing your power is freedom.


The freedom of the individual is balanced against the power of the state.



Kind regards


purp...

a reply to: NavyDoc

Ok I think that personal opinion should not be in the news it should just be about facts and actual information
her opinion whilst it is hers to air to anyone should not be in anyway relevant to the the facts about ISIS
She wants them bombed fine , but you don't use your news network to preach your opinion to others
if we are to have freedom of information it should be just that , information and facts let the people make up their own opinions not be spoon fed an opinion in such a way that its forced like a spike into your brain.

Anyways I still dont think ISIS are anything like the nazis, arent there groups of terrorists in Africa much worse than ISIS who have committed mass genocide such as those warlords in Liberia , where is the bombing there to rid the world of the evil ?
Or is Liberia just another wasteland in Africa with no real geopolitical advantage therefore it has no western intervention accept a UN peacekeeping force to appease the world and peacemakers.
Anyways we all know the reasons why these wars are happening because people want to make more money and have more power, it was the same with Germany how did it all start because one group wanted more than another and wanted more control over another group.

Why are we not killing these people instead , would the world be a better place if we just beheaded the leaders of international banking and their families?
one family for an entire planets worth of innocent deaths ?
We always point the finger at these groups the bilderberg , the rothchilds , why arent we bombing them if it all comes down to money and power , get these clowns out of the picture and make sure there is no one to carry on their legacy , see it thats changes anything, bombing other nations doesnt work may as well go to the banks and bomb them

a reply to: sapien82

Ok I think that personal opinion should not be in the news it should just be about facts and actual information her opinion whilst it is hers to air to anyone should not be in anyway relevant to the the facts about ISIS She wants them bombed fine , but you don't use your news network to preach your opinion to others if we are to have freedom of information it should be just that

Its not really her personal views. She is an actor and the whole thing made up. I do agree with you. It would be nice to see the news presenting the facts though...

purp..

a reply to: purplemer

I asked you this......

would you like to tell me where the law that says rape is illegal in any way takes away your freedom as a victim of such crime?

and you come back with the above.
I have asked you several questions during the course of this thread, not one have you answered.
I have not once come back at you questioning your intelligence and with insults such as saying you have lost your gravy.

The freedom of the individual is balanced against the power of the state.

I do not vote, and have only done so once in my long, long time of having the CHOICE to do so. Rightly or wrongly, that is MY way of not giving away my freedom and more of the balance of power to a government whatever its colour. I can then honestly, and truthfully stand in my own power and rightly declare that I did not agree.

As to the picture and quote you posted.....If that was aimed at me, you are very wrong, it appears to me that it applies more to you.

I am now choosing, as it is my free will to do so, not to engage any further with you as asking you questions to try and understand you better seems to be a waste of my time.

With all due respect
Rainbows
Jane

..this is probably the 3rd time i've opined on this jackass in various topics
HE IS SHOP AND ALWAYS WILL BE

Russell brand is still an asset of the establishment & always will be.
just because someone 'sounds off' on issues doesn't mean they're actually informed on them.
what has russell ever divulged about his supposed knowledge of the system?
nothing. (..unless you count his neuro-linguistic programming on the BBC propaganda network?)
to him; eastern mysticism (the opposite of the western tradition) holds the key
and that is 99% of what he embraces & expands to a captive uninformed audience
but all he can seem to 'get' out of this stuff, is "wishing he could ride a wave of sperm with his audience members in an orgy" (his words, not mine)


is russell brand fake?

..well, you tell me?


the affiliation with david icke, his "the trews" (the trues/truths) reports.. all carefully constructed
(..and the ones who use babytalk, stay away from them.. they're messed up.. i'm thinking of the folks who made 'teletubbies' & tory politicians in general.. et al)

the way this works is an old trick...
95% truth + 5% untruth
all carefully constructed


his ex-squeeze is another asset

and always will be

just like this one..

and this one..

and this one..

etc

all celebrities are advertisements.
they all sell their souls for a piece of the action.
would you take advice from Ronald McDonald?

there's a lot of sacred cows that still need to be taken down yet..

a reply to: angelchemuel

You are correct I never answered your question. Sorry...

would you like to tell me where the law that says rape is illegal in any way takes away your freedom as a victim of such crime?

No it does not but does it add to your freedom as a victim of that crime..?

kind regards

purp...

originally posted by: NavyDoc

originally posted by: sheepslayer247

originally posted by: NavyDoc

originally posted by: sheepslayer247

Fox News is ‘fanatical, terrorist, propagandist’ and ‘more dangerous than ISIS

Terrorist? No.

But the rest I agree with. FoxNews is a very dangerous entity in that they force opinions, perpetuate lies, use half-truths and false logic to form opinion and have no moral compass to guide their "journalism".

Some may say the left-leaning media is the same way, but I would disagree. FoxNews and the right wing media/political machine is light years ahead of anyone else in their propaganda and neurolinguistic programming techniques.

LOL. Translation: I don't like what they say so they are liars and propagandists.

No need for a translation. I think I stated my opinion quite clearly. It's not necessarily the opinions or topics they cover that concern me. It's the tactics and disingenuous nature of their approach that chaps my hide.

There are many times that I agree with what their host or guests/panelists have to say, but they use that little bit of agreement we may have to take issues and topics to an incorrect or illogical conclusion...stirring up controversy out of the mundane and inciting outrage where none should exist.

And that is any different from MSNBC, CNN, ABC, CBS, NBC, how? I've seen blatent lies about things I was actually involved in on the other networks. Methinks ones hatred of Fox is ideological, not practical.

What MSNBC or CNN does is irrelevant to the discussion and it deflects from the overall point. If you want to talk about MSNBC...fine. But that is not the topic here.

The fact is the FoxNews has been at the forefront of spreading disinformation, falsehoods, inciting outrage over nonsense and pushing an agenda for the political Right. Just because other news outlets may do the same, does not excuse Fox from their part in spreading propaganda.

a reply to: Daedalus

well effectively the second war in Iraq was a clean up job.
Saddam wasn't taken to the Hague for war crimes against humanity because he would have spilled the beans on the US involvement in the region and what his intelligence knew , same with osama , both were funded by the CIA and given weapons to commit acts of brutality and terror, instead of killing them or handing them over to be killed they should have been tried as international war criminals but of course some hard truths would have came out of the trials which would have damaged the public perception and international political perception of the US so they got bumped off.

It was a 2 for 1 we can get rid of our foreign assets and ensure they don't talk and make it look like we are the heroes.
We the UK and US the coalition of the willing (those willing to commit acts of genocide) should never have engaged in an unjust war.
Now thanks to our efforts to rid the world of crazy despots , dictators and fanatical jihadist terror groups we have further armed and supplied these groups to continue to commit acts of brutality and terror at the expense of the taxpayer. Our taxes have funded these groups by proxy and we have allowed our nations to arm these people all of the weapons they have have come from the west in some form or fashion.

what is the solution, kill the banks , stop our taxes paying into war machines why do we need to defend against each other are we invading isn't our destruction mutually assured ? again more questions than any answers

My tendency to rant and not make sense maybe unparalleled but Im just trying to get somewhere in my own head to understand it all. I apologise I know I know nothing , but I'm willing to learn.

a reply to: sheepslayer247

Isn't it legal in the US for propaganda to be used on it's citizens, didn't the US senate allow this for the government to use it on its people?
I remember reading it on here so if its good for the government then why cant the media do it ?

In any case its absolute rubbish and shouldn't be classed as a news network of information and facts just propaganda and nothing more