Russell Brand: Fox News is ‘fanatical, terrorist, propagandist’ and ‘more dangerous than ISIS�

Fox News is ‘fanatical, terrorist, propagandist’ and ‘more dangerous than ISIS

Terrorist? No.

But the rest I agree with. FoxNews is a very dangerous entity in that they force opinions, perpetuate lies, use half-truths and false logic to form opinion and have no moral compass to guide their "journalism".

Some may say the left-leaning media is the same way, but I would disagree. FoxNews and the right wing media/political machine is light years ahead of anyone else in their propaganda and neurolinguistic programming techniques.

originally posted by: ketsuko

originally posted by: purplemer
a reply to: ketsuko

Bud its easy to be critical but I am happy to see someone doing something. Adleast he is getting people to question things and look at things in a different light.

He's getting people to look at things exactly the way the elites want them looked at. If he wasn't, he would have been silenced by now. In other words, he's not really as revolutionary as he thinks.

TPTB WANT global socialism just like he advocates.

If he was actually over any real targets, they'd be trying to hit back by now.

If you believe that the only voices out there which provide opposition to the mainstream media are controlled mouthpieces you should take up being a terrorist because the time to fight back has long come. You owe it to your children and grandchildren to go fight for their future. If you don't acknowledge that it's that bad, then you must also acknowledge that you're quite possibly wrong in your opinion that every outspoken individual is part of some masterminds game.

originally posted by: sheepslayer247

Fox News is ‘fanatical, terrorist, propagandist’ and ‘more dangerous than ISIS

Terrorist? No.

But the rest I agree with. FoxNews is a very dangerous entity in that they force opinions, perpetuate lies, use half-truths and false logic to form opinion and have no moral compass to guide their "journalism".

Some may say the left-leaning media is the same way, but I would disagree. FoxNews and the right wing media/political machine is light years ahead of anyone else in their propaganda and neurolinguistic programming techniques.

LOL. Translation: I don't like what they say so they are liars and propagandists.

originally posted by: sapien82
a reply to: NavyDoc

I guess Im not explaining myself properly in this case whilst I disagree with what she is saying , she really shouldn't be saying it because she wants people to die anyone who wants people to die needs to get their heads examined.

On checking further on the legislation in america , its certainly not a crime to speek freely on any subject in any way shape or form, unless it is deemed to cause immediate unlwaful action.

I dont think she should be doing it or any news network should allow it, its not news its just hate filled opinion.
What I think of her opinion or foxs opinion doesnt matter really it;s their choice to say it .
When people are given this kind of opinion thrown at them, there are idiots out there who will take action, there are idiots everywhere who would react to this nonsense and take action and hurt people the same as terrorits spouting hatred on air around the world , then people take up arms to join a jihad and kill people.

I clearly worded my own opinion in such a way to contradict myself , but I am completely for freedom of speech , but there are cases where people should just shut up and keep their hateful opinions to themselves.
All im saying is that these kind of opinions do have consequences and there are gullable people , crazy people, who will do something if they get hyped up on a subject , they get mad enough to take action and go cause harm to innocent people.
If the media is allowed to spout hate like this then people will react and then demand that the government bomb them and so it may not be immediate but in the end people die

I guess its a horrible state of affairs where our media are giving ideas to the people and the government get what they want public backing to commit more acts of violence overseas for their own gains
the world is such a horrible place where we have news media asking for the deaths of others overseas just because they have a different political , religious ideology from some other nation as a result of US foreign policy and many other factors in the region where its happening

I just think its wrong , but she can keep spouting her hate filled nonsense , I wonder if she is proud of herself , she has achieved a career in the media and asks for the deaths of others she must be so proud

No it isn't. It s a good state of affairs when a citizen can speak their mind freely even if others don't like it. It is the price of freedom.

Bombing one's enemy is a reasonable option of many options in this scenario and the merits or lack of merit of that potential action is being debated. Having that opinion that this is a proper option is neither dangerous nor uncalled for nor hateful--regrettably war happens in the course of human events.

You are Scottish, yes? Would you call those who called for bombing and arms against the Nazis hate-speech or dangerous?

a reply to: mahatche

From

twoday.net...

22. "In March, 1915, the J.P. Morgan interests, the steel, shipbuilding, and powder interest, and their subsidiary organizations, got together 12 men high up in the newspaper world and employed them to select the most influential newspapers in the United States and sufficient number of them to control generally the policy of the daily press....They found it was only necessary to purchase the control of 25 of the greatest papers. "An agreement was reached; the policy of the papers was bought, to be paid for by the month; an editor was furnished for each paper to properly supervise and edit information regarding the questions of preparedness, militarism, financial policies, and other things of national and international nature considered vital to the interests of the purchasers."

U.S. Congressman Oscar Callaway, 1917

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26. Teddy Roosevelt "In politics, nothing happens by accident. If it happens, it was planned that way".

Which part of

GLOBALIST !!!CONTROLLED!!! MEDIA for more than 60 years . . . absolutely managed, controlled, propagandized, mass mind controlling media . . . by the Communist/ monopolistic capitalism married oligarchy . . . which part do so many folks hereon really not wrap their minds around?

I knew in the 1960's when JFK was selected . . . that it was all a charade. It smelled it, looked, it, walked like that duck, pooped like that duck . . .

34."The real truth of the matter is, as you and I know, that a financial element in the larger centers has owned the Government ever since the days of Andrew Jackson." A letter written by FDR to Colonel House, November 21st, l933

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Two years later he headed another group which included Dean Acheson (CFR), future CFR president Allen Dulles, CBS newsman Elmer Davis (RS), and Whitney Shepardson (RS), a former assistant to Colonel Edward Mandell House. The group came to be known as the Fight for Freedom Committee. It was a front organization for the English government's effort to involve the United States in World War II. [37] The British rigged a public opinion poll, and placed women with certain key American government officials. [38] Fabian Socialist columnist Walter Lippmann's brother-in-law even came up with the idea of creating a phony Nazi map which was given to President Roosevelt for propaganda purposes. FDR said:

"I have in my possession a secret map made in Germany by Hitler's Government - - by the planners of the new world order."[39]
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From the above link

Russell Brand is spouting the same rhetoric the hippies did 50 years ago. He's singing the same tune. The hippies, bless 'em,
spoke of bringing peace and love to Vietnam and Cambodia, but Pol Pot still killed about 1/4 of the population of Cambodia.
That's what insane people with fanatical idealogies do.

If Russell walked into a group of ISIS dudes and starting babbling his philosophy, they'd behead him.

a reply to: purplemer
Awesome post OP. It would seem that a major PR
campaign to sell the war another Iraq war is well
under way!

Rebel 5

originally posted by: ColeYounger

If Russell walked into a group of ISIS dudes and starting babbling his philosophy, they'd behead him.

He wouldn't need to start babbling his philosophy, they'd hack his head off because he's a non-muslim, or because of that terrible movie 'Get Him To The Greek'.

originally posted by: NavyDoc

originally posted by: sheepslayer247

Fox News is ‘fanatical, terrorist, propagandist’ and ‘more dangerous than ISIS

Terrorist? No.

But the rest I agree with. FoxNews is a very dangerous entity in that they force opinions, perpetuate lies, use half-truths and false logic to form opinion and have no moral compass to guide their "journalism".

Some may say the left-leaning media is the same way, but I would disagree. FoxNews and the right wing media/political machine is light years ahead of anyone else in their propaganda and neurolinguistic programming techniques.

LOL. Translation: I don't like what they say so they are liars and propagandists.

No need for a translation. I think I stated my opinion quite clearly. It's not necessarily the opinions or topics they cover that concern me. It's the tactics and disingenuous nature of their approach that chaps my hide.

There are many times that I agree with what their host or guests/panelists have to say, but they use that little bit of agreement we may have to take issues and topics to an incorrect or illogical conclusion...stirring up controversy out of the mundane and inciting outrage where none should exist.

a reply to: NavyDoc

well I can agree with you that its important that citizens speak their minds freely on subjects such as these , but having a major news network call for the death of humans is pretty horrible.
She is imploring the government to kill human beings thats not right.

The ISIS group whilst dangerous and horrible themselves cannot be compared to the nazi party of Germany during world war II , that was a whole country with its full power and military might capabale of causing global destruction intent on creating a global fascist state, it would appear ISIS for the time being only seek to unite sunni muslim nations they have not made attempts to dominate the world or have not stated plans to do so as far as I am aware.
That was a world war and declared as such for each nation involved where as this is a regional conflict they are not a full army , navy or airforce with a GDP to back it up.
If I was alive during world war II I would not like the deaths of fellow human beings as murder is wrong however I would not bend the knee to fascism.
Extremism is wrong as it forces others into oppression, ISIS are killing shiite muslims and anyone else who gets in their way so they can unite Sunni nations and dominate the region.
I still think that our countries should keep an eye on the situation but let that region sort it out afterall are these extremists on our home turf are they planning to invade us as the nazis were ? no they are not

It's an extremely difficult subject to think about with so many independent factors all playing a role in the quagmire that is the middle east.
The solution isnt easily found but diplomacy should always be our first step rather than carpet bombing a nation into submission as there will always be innocent casualties as in any conflict.
Look how many non combatants died in Iraq it's some sort of sick joke.
It is a sad fact that humans cant seem to avoid conflict due to our differences, even our opinions are in conflict over what is right and wrong in freedom of speech nevermind politics and religion.
What makes the middle easy so special that we need to send our armies back in there , there are wars happening all over the planet that the west just seems to ignore yet they allow them to carry on.

It just seems that those with a love for power will continue to be in conflict until we as humans can see passed the need to control one another for our own gains.

Well hopefully our nations can reach a peaceful solution without resorting to more death, why arent these nations involved doing anything to stop the sectarian violence amongst the muslim nations where are the imams to speak out for peace amongst the muslim world
Alot of questions and no real answers sorry its just overwhelming to get to grips with the problem and find an answer
yet I am no diplomat or humanitarian just a human with an opinion

Which part of

GLOBALIST !!!CONTROLLED!!! MEDIA for more than 60 years . . . absolutely managed, controlled, propagandized, mass mind controlling media . . . by the Communist/ monopolistic capitalism married oligarchy . . . which part do so many folks hereon really not wrap their minds around?

I wish i could give you an answer for that, i don't get it either. I probably sound like a broken record repeating it at this point.

For as long as humans had media, powerful groups have realized the power that comes with controlling it. Think of the Nazi's and Joesph Goebbels, the CIA with Mocking Bird, they get it, but we don't seem to see it.

In America we only have 6 media corporations, once we run that group through government filters we are left with a very narrow view. This narrow view has a massive reach though. If only one of those 6 decided to push bull#, they could still hit followers from every angle until it becomes reality. People are actually demanding information bubbles. You can't make this # up. We actually value the conformation bias.

I like news to be as boring as possible, no opinions, no left/right finger pointing, just tell me what happened and let me decide. Unfortunately real journalism is one step below hitler these days.

originally posted by: ColeYounger

Russell Brand is spouting the same rhetoric the hippies did 50 years ago. He's singing the same tune. The hippies, bless 'em,
spoke of bringing peace and love to Vietnam and Cambodia, but Pol Pot still killed about 1/4 of the population of Cambodia.
That's what insane people with fanatical idealogies do.

If Russell walked into a group of ISIS dudes and starting babbling his philosophy, they'd behead him.

This is true. I hate to mention brand and Gandhi in the same breath, but Gandhi would have been killed sooner if Hitler had his way.

That said, the world needs people willing to try the Gandhi approach. I heard a civil rights activist say she wasn't brave, she was just too stupid to realize the reality of the risk. Sometimes naive people surprise us. Some black leaders would have fought fire with fire, and that would have been ugly. Thankfully those naive college kids and preachers won out.

a reply to: OpinionatedB

it's survival instinct to be engrossed by, and absorbed in pop culture, facebook, twitter, reddit, instagram, buzzfeed, and celebrity news, and to reject matters of actual substance, like politics, war, the police state, the economy, and the lies told to us on a daily basis, by the MSM?

it's survival instinct to ignore substance, and embrace inconsequential fluff? it's survival instinct to be a ignorant, clueless zombie?

i'm talking about how we are, generally speaking, collectively, too stupid to continue functioning as a species...society will cease to function, because we are too dumb to keep it going, and once that happens, there are not enough of us who have the skills to survive without the conveniences of modern civilization..

a reply to: mahatche

VERY WELL PUT.

In your opinion . . . WHY . . .

are so many so clueless about the mind numbing propaganidzing mass brain washing by the MSM?

a reply to: Ancient Champion

Again we know this , all the media outlets called him crazy for suggesting they were trying to create a caliphate.

You still have not answered my question........

What did he say that you accuse him of being a mad man.....

I see a lot of deflection here and no answers from you.....

Specifics......

My point in posting his charity has a lot to do with it....hes being demonized by the republicans for helping the people on the border.....

But apparently you are too short sided to make the connection.......

Or perhaps your dislike for Beck is so strong its fogged your mind so much you cant actually come up with anything really crazy that hes said that would lead him to get fired.......

He got fired because he wasnt pulling the party line like they wanted him too and exposed the dishonesty on BOTH ends of the spectrum

But

But why? People called for bombing Germany. It did not start out as a world war and, in fact, it was weak people like Chamberlain who let it grow into a world war because they wanted peace at all costs. Bombing of Germany killed hundreds of thousands of women and children, yet it was necessary, unfortunately, and saved even more lives.

ISIS is just like the nazis--they murder women and children and execute prisoners. How long do you allow evil to act unfettered. Chamberlain showed us the folly of appeasing evil. Shall we repeat his mistake?

I disagree. The purpose of the media should be to lay everything on the table--pleasant or unpleasant. You may disagree with some of the viewpoints presented in the media--and that's good, but you don't want to censor it. You don't want to limit it to stories and opinions you are comfortable with. Because if you do, you will be lead by the nose and you will not understand anything. What we need is not censorship, but a wide open free for all of information that is absolutely free and unfettered and then you must take on the individual responsability to study and research and make up your own mind. Restricting information helps no one.

originally posted by: Hiasyouwant
a reply to: Daedalus

The joke is on you buddy.

ORLY? well, then let me be the first to say "haha lol"..wait, what am i laughing about again?

Maybe one day when you're older you'll see a bit more clearly, and see things for what they truly are.

Right, THAT'S what i was laughing about....the tried and true "assumption of age and superiority" trope/meme/logical fallacy.

i can see quite clearly, thank you.

You don't become as famous as he is without worshiping satan.

haha, lol

If he was really saying anything against the powers that be he'd be dead by now.

Kill him, and you lend credence to what he says, AND you make a martyr....nothing drives a movement like a martyr...just ask the civil rights movement..they had a few, and it only emboldened them, to achieve their goals. give a movement a leader, and they will be strong, give them a martyr, and they will be unstoppable.

no, as i said, it is so much easier and safer for them, to simply marginalize and minimize him in the media, by downplaying him as "just a comedian", and point out that he used to have a drug problem, and asserting that because of that, he must have a broken mind, and be incapable of any kind of rational thought.

For now you're blind and asleep.

-yawn- ...naah...i'm a little knackered....and i think i've got gas.....yeah, definitely got gas...but i'm pretty sure i'm not asleep, and my eyes appear to be working properly as well...

all kidding aside though, are you operating from some playbook of cliches and tropes? this is one i like to call the "your blind/asleep, because you don't agree with me". .....i'm sorry pal, but not all of us sees things through the same distorted lens of religious fairytale....

Keep worshiping the blaspheming moron.

i assume you mean Russell Brand...he has a name...you can use it...i promise you won't burst into flames, or be smote by your invisible friend...

and who's worshiping him? does agreeing with someone now count as worship? how do magnets work on your planet?

He has done it on many occasions, not just that one video.

which is really only a problem, if that sort of thing bothers you....i don't have that problem..

sorry but I won't spoon feed you or spend my time arguing about it.

lol, i love the not so subtle implication of superiority....very classy...

i'm glad you have elected to NOT waste your time, and mine, "spoon feeding" me drivel i have no interest in, while at the same time, implying that i am inferior to you, and less intelligent than you, because i don't see the world in such narrow, absolute, and deluded terms as you..

He was also Katy perry's handler. Do your own research.

what the christ does that have to do with ANYTHING?

I'm out of here.

No you're not....you just made another post in this thread today...

originally posted by: mahatche

originally posted by: ColeYounger

Russell Brand is spouting the same rhetoric the hippies did 50 years ago. He's singing the same tune. The hippies, bless 'em,
spoke of bringing peace and love to Vietnam and Cambodia, but Pol Pot still killed about 1/4 of the population of Cambodia.
That's what insane people with fanatical idealogies do.

If Russell walked into a group of ISIS dudes and starting babbling his philosophy, they'd behead him.

This is true. I hate to mention brand and Gandhi in the same breath, but Gandhi would have been killed sooner if Hitler had his way.

That said, the world needs people willing to try the Gandhi approach. I heard a civil rights activist say she wasn't brave, she was just too stupid to realize the reality of the risk. Sometimes naive people surprise us. Some black leaders would have fought fire with fire, and that would have been ugly. Thankfully those naive college kids and preachers won out.

The Ghandi approach only works if the opponent has a smidgen of humanity. Stalin would have had Ghandi shot in a second and the movement would have been crushed before it began.

The irony about Ghandi is that his wife and heirs were actually unbending and cruel authoritarians. Power corrupts.

a reply to: NavyDoc

Indeed, the US would have declared Ghandi a terrorist if he existed in modern times. Especially if he led some sort of resistance that prevented rothchild banks or oil corporations from entering the country.