Is there a conspiracy to downplay the threat of radical Islam?

I have predict these will happened around 20 years ago. Mostly after 9/11 it accelerated really fast. These extremist try to brainwash the young generation, meanwhile there are another side who try to insult, blame, provoked and lied stuff about islam. The result is even more young generation got brainwashed from both way. The extremist group use those website and news to even boosting their strategy, to make younger generation believe their dogma, while showing the other side article.

Remind me last night i watch rambo 3. In that time, people didnt realized that the good side is the embrio of the bad side today, and who support who. Such an irony.

In the end, it will be depend on us. When we are going to stop generalizing, stop the hatred without knowing and listen more into those cases. Only then we can face our common enemy, and identified them easily.

A bit information for people who dont know about these extremist. They always want to use sharia law as the prime law. But there is no sharia law exist in islam, there is only sharia law with different version depend on the sectarian within islam.
These sectarian, that i guess some people already know are very aggressive. They will push what their belief regardless of other's. And their version of shariah law is very harsh and wicked.
And do you know who will be the first target when they succeeded? It will be another sectarian within islam. The one who dare to interpret different than their interpretation will be count as the worse enemy.

So i hope we can see the truth, talk to each other to find who are these common enemy. And stop it before they expand even more.

a reply to: WeAreAWAKE

True Islam says no such thing when it comes to "Convert or die". Islam actually praises the Good Christian and Jews, it doesn't say they must convert to Islam. You will find that saying is used amongst Extremists and no-one else. This should show you that Extremists are not fighting in the name of true Islam but an imposter version.

a reply to: freedom7

The only people that accuse anyone of being an Islamophobe are those that want the world controlled by Islam and know that they can't debate it with the premise being "you must accept Islam or become enslaved or killed ".

Point being, no one has the right to disagree without being branded with a title that makes you look bad and take the attention off of them.

a reply to: DarknStormy

yup,, just keep spreading the lie,,,

REALITY CHECK!!!!!!!!!!!


Released Sudanese Christian woman detained at airport
By Nima Elbagir and Jason Hanna, CNN
updated 5:52 AM EDT, Wed June 25, 2014



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"A Sudanese Christian woman who was sentenced to die for refusing to renounce her faith -- and then released -- was detained with her family on Tuesday as they tried to leave the African country.

Her legal team told CNN that Mariam Yehya Ibrahim, her American husband, Daniel Wani, and their two children were stopped at an airport in Khartoum and interrogated at national security headquarters in the Sudanese capital."



APPARENTLY ITS THE LAW! /;woman who was sentenced to die for refusing to renounce her faith"

From Syria to Iraq, Kenya to Malaysia: How new era of Islamic fundamentalism is spreading fear and chaos around the world

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Nothing to see here, move along.

originally posted by: DarknStormy
a reply to: WeAreAWAKE

True Islam says no such thing when it comes to "Convert or die". Islam actually praises the Good Christian and Jews, it doesn't say they must convert to Islam. You will find that saying is used amongst Extremists and no-one else. This should show you that Extremists are not fighting in the name of true Islam but an imposter version.

Qur’an:9:5 - Fight and kill the disbelievers wherever you find them, take them captive, harass them, lie in wait and ambush them using every stratagem of war.

I'm no expert, but...there you go. In fact, the comments (for and against) are interesting at the site where I took that quote. Source

But I also don't believe the extremist and non-extremist separation. From what I hear from our returning military is that the "non-extremist" don't exist. At best...they don't care or fear retaliation. They support the extremist by letting them continue their ways. Much like guards at concentration camps let it happen...and they are considered part of the problem, and guilty.

a reply to: BobAthome

From your source.

"The State Department has been informed by the Sudanese government that the family was temporarily detained at the airport for several hours by the government for questioning over issues related to their travel, and I think travel documents," said spokeswoman Marie Harf. "They have not been arrested. The government has assured us of their safety."

What the hell does that have to do with Islam? That is a Political issue, not a religious one. And the headline in the video says that she has been re-arrested, that is a load of bs also.

a reply to: DarknStormy


What the hell does that have to do with Islam


"sentenced to die for refusing to renounce her faith"
sentenced to die for refusing to renounce her faith

or maybe

sentenced to die for refusing to renounce her faith

in case u did not notice,,sentenced to die for refusing to renounce her faith,, was an Islamic Court,,

What the hell does that have to do with Islam,,,a lot.

a reply to: WeAreAWAKE

The quote says "Kill all disbelievers" and in my Qu'ran "Pagans"... It doesn't say kill all Non-Muslims.. If it said Kill all who are not Muslim, then I would agree 100%.

a reply to: BobAthome

Have you ever read the Qu'ran?

Have you compared the contradictions between the teachings of the Qu'ran and Islamic political systems in Africa and the Middle East?

That is Sudan's law, You give me a quote from the Qu'ran that says anyone who doesn't renounce Christianity or Judaism for Islam must be hung or killed. Even just one quote. When you can do that, then you may have a case.

originally posted by: ManBehindTheMask
The title of the video is just an example of the SPIN being done by the progressive left...........she isnt being taunted at all.......one muslim woman is speaking to another muslim woman about extremism in their own faith........

I just saw this comment and felt the need to point out.
I'm sorry to have to blow your world view like this, but every "brown person" or "aye-rab" isn't a muslim. Bridgette Gabriel is not, nor ever was a muslim. She's a christian originally from Lebanon.

a reply to: DarknStormy

for my ancient religions file, could you define for me what the author(s) of quran meant by "pagan"?

I understand what you're saying and while I do agree with some of what you are seeing, as I am seeing the same thing you are, I don't quite get what your proposed solution to the alleged problem is.

I apologize profusely if this has been said already (as I obviously didn't read the entire thread), but is it remotely possible that the 'threat' of radical Islam was introduced to mask some other true motive? To be a 'probable cause' so to speak for all following actions? And then after the introduction of this scapegoat, people ate the bait and are now literally hooked to hating Islam because it's what they've been used to listening to for the past 15 years or so? It's like playing the same song for 15 years, then suddenly someone changes the track, naturally, some people are going to say "Hey, why'd you change the song we've all been loving so much for so long?"

This, is what I find particularly disturbing.

What's more disturbing is most people here don't believe the official story behind 9/11, but don't bat an eye to still be hating on some Muslims (which was ONLY brought to your mind TO DO post-9/11... 9/11 BEING the very 'cause' for your supposed hatred for Islam), so now you're just blindly hating Muslims for no real reason (because I can pretty much guarantee they are doing nothing that obstructs your daily life). That is what's really fascinating to me, personally. The craving or thirst for this specific brand of hate.

It's as if some feel comfortable when the boogeyman they're supposed to hate is this distant entity that they don't have to look in the face and now that that boogeyman is no longer useful to whatever agenda that's in store, it's being slowly weened off and people are suffering from some serious Islam-hate withdrawals.

Not to mention the tiny side note of popular discontent with the 15 year long fruitless war we have been a part of... battling an ideology (if you want to play by the official story here for a moment)... and finally people generally are tired of warring with other nations and against 'things' that aren't tangible things to be killed/destroyed/defeated. It's obvious we're coming to the conclusion you can't battle a religion or ideology, period.. (Now, do I think they knew this well in advance? That's another story..)

So, even looking at it from the mainstream perspective that we went to war with these nations post-9/11 to battle an ideology that is different from ours, all the while it's allegedly been the cause of our decline as an economy and has taken countless lives of people, foreign and domestic... and you're saying what? "How about we play that song again where we murder Muslims because they are a terrible dangerous threat?" It is your thirst and your addiction to this that has now become just as hostile as your supposed enemy.

I'm really following your line of thinking here and I'm trying to point out that if you follow it all the way through, no matter which way you want to go with it, it's completely illogical. Fact is (and it's sad really) you, like many other people, were brainwashed into hating a group of people as a scapegoat because it was convenient at that time. Obviously, it's not convenient anymore. Get with the program, dude. If you're looking for someone to externalize your hatred onto, I'm sure it won't be long before the MSM has something lined out just for folks like yourself.

a reply to: celerygeneral

well apparently one of the problems is european leaders made the crazy decision to invite large amounts of radicalized muslims into their western culture. not normal muslims but radicalized muslims. that was SURE to be a bad thing. the effect its having is radicalizing europeans against muslims. a large portion of europeans are atheists and christians of one variety or another. they also have a healthy population of druids, jews, and various other beliefs. just imagine how this is playing out in their countries.

women, who have been acclimated to the idea that they are actually human beings that god loves just as much as any man, who have long ago gave up the idea of wearing veils or head coverings, or who simply don't believe in any of the abrahamic religions, are being confronted by rape gangs of radicalized muslims who assume any woman on the street who doesn't have her head covered, is advertising sex and as such is theirs to treat however they want. meanwhile the european leaders are tying the hands of their own citizens and putting gag orders on their free speech.

in effect, the whole thing is being promulgated by european leaders who wish to eradicate not just muslims but lower their countries population. meanwhile, other groups are rubbing up all kinds of anger against christians and jews. so i'm going with the idea that the european leaders are, in concert with other western nations, seeking to exterminate all abrahamic religions, including islam, christianity and judaism.

so this isn't just about islam. they want to remove abraham and the bible, and the quran and the talmud, and what they view is thousands of years of unnecessary superstition and bloodshed, from the face of the planet, and they are using radicalized muslims to do it.

nice, eh?

a reply to: undo

You have some good points, ones I will consider as I have not considered it before. Thanks for the food for thought.

I see you a reply to: DarknStormy

Congrats to BO XIAN for taking on all the snakes and dominating. I smoke too much weed to do it myself although i sometimes want to. Kudos my friend. And to all the snakes, plain as day, I see. a reply to: BO XIAN

Wow...
I was doing my usual thing of going post by post through this entire thread, picking up falsities and exposing them for what they are...but I couldn't read through 7 pages of this seriously.

Members of this site continue to amaze me with the depths of ridiculous that they can go.
Thankfully there're still some sane people left.

Now, I'm going to tell you a surprising fact, something it seems very few people understand. Beware, it may utterly shakes your world view. You ready?
...
WE DON'T LIVE IN SOME CARTOON HIGH FANTASY WORLD

There are no vile orcs and noble elves, there is no "one side is evil other side is good", there are only people, and despite how evil or "otherly" some might try to paint them, they are only human and JUST LIKE YOU. Same blood, same flesh, same basic motivations. Try to remember that.

Now you might say "Babloyi, stop trying to be a smart-ass" or "Nobody is thinking that", but then I have stuff like the following in this thread:
"inherent and intense goals of 20-70% of muslims"

"(Muslims) have inserted themselves in nonMuslim land after nonMuslim land, built themselves up economically and militarily until they COULD act out their conquest, and THEN done accordingly"

"Muslims are exhorted to lie on behalf of conquest"

"They don't want to live and let live. They want to destroy us. They're not going to stop."

"I don't see any Muslims doing anything about it."

"It IS OK for millions to die if it benefits BILLIONS"

As if muslims are some collective borg-mind that is out to get you.
Replace "muslims" there with literally any other group in the history of the universe (jews, blacks, women, vegans, farmers) and suddenly you're exposed for being a bigot.
Now you might say "Nonono, how dare you paint us wrongly, we were only referring to the extremists!". Come now, don't delude yourself. What do you mean by "extremist"? If your answer is "Any muslim who behaves muslim-like" and that moderates are "Any muslims that don't behave muslim-like", or, to put it another way "a good muslim is a bad person and a bad muslim is a good person", then what's the difference? Why try to hide behind the "I'm only talking about extremists!" shield, when you might as well say "All muslims"? Do you think any muslim will happily admit to being a bad muslim? Besides, who defines what is muslim? You, or muslims?

Someone earlier in this thread brought up a comparison to Nazis, so let me bring the comparison, but in the complete opposite way.
How do you think the build-up to the holocaust, with the hatred of jews being played upon by the leaders on the ignorant public went?

And keeping that in mind, OK, so if you say muslims are the problem, then in response to the Muslim Question, what is your Final Solution?

PS: If there is any conspiracy in the MSM, it is the exaggeration and "up-playing", not downplaying of "the threat of radical Islam".

a reply to: babloyi

obviously it's not a cartoon world of black and white. i think that's kinda the point. for example, a statistic for swedish rapes, went from hardly none at all before immigrants, specifically muslim immigrants, to 7000 in a single year, almost all of them by muslims against non muslim swedish women who were not properly "dressed". that might work in a muslim country but it doesn't work in european countries. it's causing the radicalization of europeans, not in favor of islam, but the opposite. it's a big fat trap.

on top of that, all of this seems to have, as its fuel source, the disagreements between western culture and non-western culture. and launching it into hyperdrive is the fact the europeans are primarily atheists, christians, jews and various types of pagans, all of which islam is in disagreement with and which is in disagreement with islam. in effect, the christians, jews, atheists and pagans were actually learning to get along. the catholics and the protestants had stopped killing each other and so on. the society was sort of melding into each other and learning to just agree to disagree.

that's not happening with islam in europe. at least, not in a way that europeans are comfortable with. it's making huge swaths of europeans who aren't talking heads or politicians, into very angry campers. this can not end well. for any body.

Islam is not a threat, it´s the gangrene of humanity
that should be dealt with.
Wipe them out, every last one of them. Christianity too.
It IS OK for millions to die if it benefits BILLIONS.