LGBTQ is forced on elementary students in schools without parents consent

Theres a few hypocrites in here. Need I point them out? No I don't have to.

They want acceptance and tolerance while not being accepting or tolerant of anything themselves. They dis respect any one who has an opposing view and resort to name calling. They don't believe in God, but only mention religion when it seems to support their argument.

They are the most intolerant of any people I have ever came across and they make broad assumptions and label people.

They are careless with words and they are spiteful, hateful and completely arrogant.

So the question becomes...is it okay to be LGBT? Then the question becomes if it is okay to be LGBT then is it okay to tell our children that it's okay to be LGBT?

Get to the heart of the matter. I think it's okay, so I tell my children it's okay. Otherwise I'm lying to myself and them.

I get this belief that it's okay because, when I woke up this morning I didn't chose to be straight. I've never had to chose that. I just am. I believe with all my heart that's the truth.

I don't think you're pushing an agenda if you state to children that some people are born that way and to further state that it's okay and not to bully or discriminate against them.

a reply to: amazing

You did not have to choose to be straight because that is the natural order of things. In order to stray from that one must choose to stray. Nature or God or some uncontrollable force does not thrust gayness upon a person at birth.

originally posted by: Christian Voice
a reply to: NoRulesAllowed

This mess is not teaching about gays or gay history, it picks out gays and transgenders specifically to force the idea onto our children that they are not allowed a different opinion about gays and transgenders because if they do they are labeled bullies and bullies are bad.

You would first have to define "different opinion" because this phrase can imply a LOT. What, for example, would constitute a "different opinion" in regards to a transgender person? Say, a TG person would (naturally) want to stand in for equality and that they are tolerated as such..but I have a a "different opinion"..such as...such as what? That I go to him and tell him he is a bad person because he is a TG? Or I tell him he should be ashamed he "choose" to be TG (lol).....but then we're already at bullying. You see that there is a very fine line (if any)...to separate what makes a "different opinion" and bullying, usually those two things will go hand in hand.

originally posted by: Christian Voice
a reply to: amazing

You did not have to choose to be straight because that is the natural order of things. In order to stray from that one must choose to stray. Nature or God or some uncontrollable force does not thrust gayness upon a person at birth.

I think it's not a choice though. Like I said. I can't stray. That's not an option. We can't chose our sexuality like that. Being Gay is not a sin nor is it some demonic devil or something.

a reply to: amazing

You know, it's OK to be any or all of those things.

What's not OK is to organize, write a ridiculous agenda, and defend it like a rabid dog.

Gay folks are 5% of the population. Does the entire world need to embrace their agenda ?

Gay people deserve the exact same treatment as everyone else.

a reply to: NoRulesAllowed

But they can call Christians bigots, bullies, ignorant, I even was called evil yesterday for being Christian which confused me. It is not the same set of rules. They insist on equality and having our children be presented all sides yet they mean all sides except those that oppose the gay agenda. They force God from everything and say we cannot mention him or worship him publicly yet they can defile themselves in unspeakable ways in public and dare someone to say something under the threat of retribution in the form of lawsuits and boycotts and physical harm.

originally posted by: amazing
I don't think you're pushing an agenda if you state to children that some people are born that way and to further state that it's okay and not to bully or discriminate against them.

Funny, the issue whether it's "ok" never came up when my parents taught us about gays at a very early age. Of course we found it odd, also the typical giggling etc. since "gay" still is something "not so commonly seen", but there was never ever a question judging it whether it's "ok" or "bad". So what..some people are gay. Good. Next subject. And this is what equality is, it has become a EFFING NON-ISSUE. No one comes knocking at my door trying to "make me gay", no one forces a "gay life style" (lol) on me etc...etc...

a reply to: NoRulesAllowed

Oh but they do. They are teaching it in schools now, gay pride parades pass out literature to recruite. Open up dem peeps.

I'm out peeps. It was great to have the chance once again to debate with you guys. Hopefully no offense was taken, none was intended. Good Night all and God Bless.

Write an agenda? Which gays "wrote" an agenda? Does anybody really think there's like ... a manifesto somewhere?

What is the written gay agenda then? I keep hearing about it, I've been gay for 48 years and I don't know what all you avowedly straight people are talking about when you use "gay agenda" so freely.

So, what is it ... define the "gay agenda." Since it's written, direct us to a copy of it online, I mean, surely such a document would be available, right?

a reply to: Christian Voice

You know this is not true. You mention that you were called "evil" yesterday ... do you remember being called out repeatedly and proven to be making dishonest claims in your posts?

And your only retort was that you are a Son of God called to pass judgement on people?

Wow.

"Teaching it in school now" ... where? What school, what state are they teaching classes on how to be gay?

There are plenty of pride parades, surely some of the "recruiting" campaign literature is available. Produce a copy where straight people are being "recruited" to become gay.

I understand mindlessly repeating mindless stereotypes when you have no facts on your side, but COME ON ... this is rhetoric from the 80s ... update your stuff!

originally posted by: txinfidel
Theres a few hypocrites in here. Need I point them out? No I don't have to.

They want acceptance and tolerance while not being accepting or tolerant of anything themselves. They dis respect any one who has an opposing view and resort to name calling. They don't believe in God, but only mention religion when it seems to support their argument.

They are the most intolerant of any people I have ever came across and they make broad assumptions and label people.

They are careless with words and they are spiteful, hateful and completely arrogant.

No, it's okay if you call out the anti-equality crowd ... I agree I think everyone knows who they are.

Seriously, you've been trolling your own thread long enough, haven't you? Now you come in with this passive-aggressive BS and simply make a line of statements with no reality and no relation to anything anyone has said?

You don't have enough courage to actually interact with anyone, yet you claim that gays are portraying themselves as "victims."

"They, they, they ..." Why not have some intestinal fortitude and say what you mean directly?

Gay Agenda Wiki

To keep it honest....There is an Agenda.

originally posted by: whyamIhere
Gay Agenda Wiki

To keep it honest....There is an Agenda.

You know I respect you so I'm just discussing with you but, I think you're wrong here. I think most gay people don't have an agenda. The agenda they have, if you want to call it that, is to be equal to everyone else and I think they deserve that. Maybe someone somewhere has an agenda, but we don't throw all white people under the bus because a few wackos in vegas with an agenda killed 3 people. Yes?

a reply to: amazing

You are correct.

Most Gay people probably don't know and don't care there is an Agenda.

If Gay people are 5% of the population. Less than 1% of that number have an agenda.

To say they represent all Gay people. Is like saying the KKK represents all white people.

a reply to: whyamIhere

Honest? Really? You want to be honest?

So if there's a listing on Wikipedia for a phrase or topic ... it's therefore real?

Okay, here you go:

Unicorns

Good my little cousins will be so happy!

Bigfoot

Someone let all those silly guys stomping around in the woods know that the question has been answered!

Superman

This makes me feel better than ever! We really NEED Superman today!

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From your link:

Homosexual agenda (or gay agenda) is a term introduced by some conservative Christians in the United States, often used disparagingly to describe the advocacy of cultural acceptance and normalization of non-heterosexual orientations and relationships.

So it's a made-up term used by conservative Christians to describe efforts at equality. Check.

In the US, the term "the gay agenda" was first used in public discourse in 1992 when the Family Research Council, an American conservative Christian group,[2] released a video series called The Gay Agenda as part of a pack of materials campaigning on homosexual issues and the "hidden gay agenda"

More Christians, more made up "agendas." Check.

... and so on.

originally posted by: whyamIhere
a reply to: amazing

You are correct.

Most Gay people probably don't know and don't care there is an Agenda.

If Gay people are 5% of the population. Less than 1% of that number have an agenda.

To say they represent all Gay people. Is like saying the KKK represents all white people.

Who's the 1% of the 5% then? Call them out! Name them.

You're very clear on the "Agenda" (even capitalizing it).

What is the Agenda in your own words?

What are you talking about, what concrete actions, beliefs, etc. are you referring to when you use the word?

a reply to: Gryphon66

We have been over all this before.

On page 3 of this thread we start to see agenda talk.

Don't know if you missed it...

Please don't bump it...Let it lay like the turd it is.

Old thread

Have fun...

a reply to: whyamIhere

We haven't been over it at all. You and others like to refer to an Agenda but I've never seen you describe it.

Why can't you use a couple of sentences to say what you think the "Gay Agenda" is instead of all these vague references?

It would look something like this:

"To me, the Gay Agenda is _____________, ________________ and __________________." or

"__________, __________, and ______________ are objectives on the Gay Agenda."

Could you fill in the blanks so we'll know where you're coming from?