LGBTQ is forced on elementary students in schools without parents consent

When I was a child I always wondered why I was a boy and girls were girls. I asked my parents around the age of 4 "why am I a boy" they said "because god made me a boy" so I asked "why did God make me a boy?" I don't think they clearly answered my question. But one day I was in pre school with a girl, a family friend of ours actually and she had to go to the bathroom. To this day I don't know why we were in a bathroom together, but she pulled down her pants and I was thought to myself " wheres your penis?" up until that day I thought everyone had a penis. But in that moment it all clicked and I never asked my parents any questions about gender identity ever again.

So fast forward 30 years, now we are forcing the issue on children of this age, the age I was when I thought that everyone had a penis. Well give or take.

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If your child attends school in Vallejo, California, he will watch pro-gay propaganda videos whether you like it or not.

Forced by the ACLU to provide “mandatory diversity training” to students and faculty, the Vallejo Unified School District is now showing all students “anti-bullying” films produced by a homosexuality affirming San Francisco group called GroundSpark. Among other topics, the films discuss same-sex relationships.
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“There are six protected classes in California that cannot be discriminated against, harassed or bullied,” said Pacific Justice Institute Chief Counsel Kevin Snider. “Religion, race/ethnicity national origin, gender, disability, and sexual orientation. The school district is showing three films, but the films don’t protect all six classes equally, as the law requires.” Snider contended that two of the GroundSpark films being shown, ‘That’s a Family’ and ‘Straightlaced,’ are primarily pro-gay.

“One of the problems is that African-Americans who have seen the film shown to the board were offended and distressed by the representations of African-Americans, that they were drug addicts, broken families, inarticulate,” Snider added. “However, in contrast, the lesbian and gay parents that were portrayed had much more information on them than other groups, and it was all extremely positive. There was no protection of religion at all.”

“This is sex education because you have to be involved in sex to be a lesbian or to be a gay man,” contended a second mother at the meeting. “Now what you do in your home, that’s your home, but as far as me and mine, my children are not ready for this.”

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“There is no formal opt-out provision in the laws. California law specifically excludes these areas from the formal opt-out provisions in the law regarding sex education. This is not sex education. It is education about respecting differences” said Tish Busselle, public information officer for Vallejo schools.
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Now you ask where does this propaganda come from and what goals do they have?

Well from here. Hello captain obvious.

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Socialist Strategy
Socialist Feminism and Women's Liberation
Socialist feminism confronts the common root of sexism, racism and classism: the determination of a life of oppression or privilege based on accidents of birth or circumstances. Socialist feminism is an inclusive way of creating social change. We value synthesis and cooperation rather than conflict and competition.

We work against the exploitation and oppression of women who live with lower wages, inferior working conditions and subordination in the home, in society and in politics. Socialists struggle for the full freedom of women and men to control their own bodies and reproductive systems and to determine their own sexual orientation.

We stand for the right of women to choose to have a safe and legal abortion, at no cost, regardless of age, race, or circumstance.
Women’s independent organizations and caucuses are essential to full liberation, both before and after the transformation to socialism. Women will define their own liberation.

Liberation of Oppressed People
Bigotry and discrimination help the ruling class divide, exploit, and abuse workers here and in the Third World. The Socialist Party works to eliminate prejudice and discrimination in all its forms. We recognize the right of self-defense in the face of attacks; we also support non-violent direct action in combating oppression. We fully support strong and expanded affirmative action programs to help combat the entrenched inertia of a racist and sexist system which profits from discrimination and social division.

People of color, lesbians and gays, and other oppressed groups need independent organization to fight oppression. Racism will not be eliminated merely by eliminating capitalism.

To hell in a handbasket.

Any chance we can make this ride go any faster?

Here is a bit more back story on this in case anyone wants a bit more information on the whole story before forming an opinion. [Link]

Personally, I don't think awareness, particularly when done in an age-appropriate, thoughtful manner, and especially with the intentions of preventing bullying and harm, hurts anyone. In fact I know plenty of adults who could benefit from this too. Maybe if they were given the opportunity to learn as children none of this would even be necessary today.

a reply to: ~Lucidity

So now we are calling the teaching of children the appropriate way to treat people "propaganda"? In my opinion, this is needed to counter-act all of the bigoted parents forcing hateful ways onto their children.

Since when is teaching children to be accepting of others propaganda?

a reply to: ~Lucidity

Hi there I agree. What is age appropriate though? If educating children not to discriminate against a broad generalization of people then Im all for it. But why single out discrimination against just gay people or blacks for instance. Isn't it detestable in all forms? If thats what you believe? But whats age appropriate, shouldn't the person being educated have a knowledge of the two different genitalias and what sets them apart?

As a side note I think some forms of discrimination are survival instincts, like say for instance that person is a crack head. It might be a good idea not to associate yourself with that person unless you become a victim of their own affairs yourself.

So again, when is it an appropriate age and when is it necessary to single out certain groups of people and tell them not to develop harsh feelings for them? When is that appropriate?

When is my class and my race and my religion going to be protected ?

When is it going to be illegal to say or think bad things about me ?

Since when did I have to conform my thoughts and feelings so I didn't hurt your feelings ?

Why does this need to be taught to school children ?

Why must my agenda be held hostage to the irate voices of a few ?

When do I get to say poor pitiful me, I have been wronged ?

a reply to: whyamIhere

Don't worry about that.

Unfortunately with the civil rights movements some begin to try to undo (instead of forgive) their injustices until they become the predators themselves. Just like people who are abused during child hood grow up and abuse others in the same manner.

From WND (Worldnet Daily) -- your "slightly" slanted news.

There's been a program around for a few years to introduce grade school kids to different families, including same sex parents.

Most likely young kids today will have friends with same sex parents.

Absolutely, it should be part if their cultural education.

I could sort of dig it until you started in on the socialist feminist line. While I'm not necessarily liking the name, I don't really see the problem with a group that is for giving women an option to be treated and live a little better than high class cattle or have the economic means to leave an abusive spouse.

That's really my main problem with much of the right. If they want to stick to traditional gender roles and all that other stuff, that's great, and that's fine, and good for them. I don't want to be that, so please stop trying to initiate social policies that will force me into that role. Stop with the social attitudes that put the onus of rape on the victims, be they men or women. Stop with the ludicrous policy of denying abortions, but then also wanting to deny any help to the women at all in the form of welfare, stop being okay with policies that let men get stuff like Viagra on insurance but that don't cover birth control at all even though BC has a lot of different medical uses besides preventing pregnancy, all while they sit there completely mum about the guys that aren't stepping up and instead just badger the women and go on and on and on about how the women are whores.

I am sick of hearing how all these social problems are the fault of women, women, women while these people sit there are say that men are the natural leaders and all that crap. If they want this nation to be fixed, then shut up, start realizing that a nation of female leaders means an absence of strong male leaders, and act accordingly.

As for this, the only thing that I see wrong with it is that it is age inappropriate.

a reply to: Annee

Theres other sources and even laws, thats just an example. It is just not an issue that should be forced on young impressionable minds. And kids shouldn't be forced to question their own sexual identity until they discover those feelings themselves. Not age appropriate or appropriate in general, very inappropriate and highly irresponsible behavior by adults to treat children that way. IMO

originally posted by: txinfidel
a reply to: Annee

Theres other sources and even laws, thats just an example. It is just not an issue that should be forced on young impressionable minds. And kids shouldn't be forced to question their own sexual identity until they discover those feelings themselves. Not age appropriate or appropriate in general, very inappropriate and highly irresponsible behavior by adults to treat children that way. IMO

Forced? Issue? We disagree right there.

I hate it when people use kids as an excuse for their own fears and phobias.

The kids will find it interesting or boring. The only ones with hamg-ups are the adults.

a reply to: AnIntellectualRedneck

those weren't my words but I left them in context for you take from that what you will. I am not telling you what to be or how to act, you can decide that for yourself.

And as for your abortion comment, fine. But the source reads FREE abortions, not abortions in general. A little flaw in your argument there because nothing is free and somebodies paying for it, guess who? American tax payers.

We rank in pitiful place in all areas of math, English, social studies, reading comprehension. . . .

But we're sensitive to the needs of the gay folks.

And people wonder why we home-school.

a reply to: Annee

Ok you must have skimmed the article then.

Right here.

“There is no formal opt-out provision in the laws. California law specifically excludes these areas from the formal opt-out provisions in the law regarding sex education. This is not sex education. It is education about respecting differences” said Tish Busselle, public information officer for Vallejo schools.
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Its ok I forgive you.

a reply to: beezzer

Cant help but wanting to hug a cute little bunny rabbit such as your self.

People's personal sexual fetishes shouldn't be taught as school curriculum to children...

a reply to: Kromlech

Thank you. Nor should those people be teaching kids anything..

1. Gay people exist and are American citizens as well as citizens of the State of California.

2. Some of the students at the school are gay, lesbian, bi-sexual and trans*. This is true whether anyone "accepts" it or not.

3. These films are geared to understanding that it is wrong to bully someone because they are different, and to bring awareness to the problems that bullying can create for people.

4. Discussing that gays and lesbians exist is no more related to "sex education" than a basic science class would be that acknowledges the different sexes.

5. These are simple facts and none of this can accurately be called "propaganda" in any sense of the word.

6. The idea that "World Net Daily" is anything but extreme right-wing propaganda is truly ironic, in this context.

a reply to: whyamIhere

So don't teach your kids that not everyone is like you?
People are gay, get over it
And what is your class and race that you want protected.

a reply to: Annee

You are wrong, the ones with "hang ups" are the parents they should have every right to what their children learn.

Sorry but all of this forced re-education talk is starting to get creepy.

a reply to: Gryphon66

Ok, you know what else exists?

Murder.
Pedophilia.
Rape.
Beastiality.

Why are we stopping at LGBTQ then and why is it age appropriate?

Maybe a more sane approach would be to not single out anybody. If were gonna bring LGBTQ to the table age inappropriately why not open the table to all that stuff too.

Unless of course that stuff is acceptable to you, you seem pretty open minded.