Leo XIII vision of 100 years reign of Satan pass in Summer 2014?

originally posted by: St Udio

originally posted by: ReturnofTheSonOfNothing
a reply to: 2012newstart

Sounds like the poor guy had a stroke or something. No wonder he had visions..

yes... it does sound like a stroke rather than a Flash-of-enlightenment like Paul had on his road-to-Damascus

I think we can rule out a NDE, as a NDE has more to do with celestial or heavenly, mysterious surroundings for the viewer... rather than a Satanic led world reign of 100 years

so the Pope had a Flash or a Epiphany-Vision instead of visiting the after-life & Pearly Gates commonly seen in a NDE event, interesting ---
perhaps the Pope got caught up in his own fears of a not-so-nice- future which included a Church that was inferior to the power of Satan

Actually it sounds as though he saw demons surrounding them, he didn't fall down or anything.

In 1947 Father Domenico Pechenino related what he had witnessed over six decades before.

“I do not remember the exact year. One morning the great Pope Leo XIII had celebrated a Mass and, as usual, was attending a Mass of thanksgiving. Suddenly, we saw him raise his head and stare at something above the celebrant’s head. He was staring motionlessly, without batting an eye. His expression was one of horror and awe; the colour and look on his face changing rapidly. Something unusual and grave was happening in him.

“Finally, as though coming to his senses, he lightly but firmly tapped his hand and rose to his feet.

Leo XIII truly saw, in a vision, demonic spirits who were congregating on the Eternal City (Rome). -

- See more at: the-american-catholic.com...

originally posted by: LDragonFire
a reply to: 2012newstart

You wanna see satanism you need only look here:

This prayer to Michael the Archangel was said continuously until the Mass was restructured in the Second Vatican council.

You shall have no other gods before me

Catholics do not worship St. Michael, Jesus mother or anyone but God. Saints, angels and the Mother of God are venerated. To venerate is to honor or hold in high esteem.

St. Michael Prayer: Saint Michael the ArchAngel defend us in the day of battle. Be our safeguard against the wickedness and the snares of the devil. May God rebuke him we humbly pray and do thou Oh Prince of Heavenly Hosts by the power of God cast into Hell, Satan and all the other evil spirits who prowl through the world seeking the ruin of souls.

Saint Michael the ArchAngel

a reply to: 2012newstart

I really think we could be. I think the rebirth of Israel is a good harbinger. I also believe in the imminence of his return, meaning no specific event must necessarily precede it. Revelations was the first book of the bible that I read and I have longed for his return for as long as I can remember. Despite this yearning If the Lord tarries I must be glad in the knowledge that He does so in order for more souls to be brought into his kingdom.

As in the days of Noah so shall it be at the coming of the Son of Man.
Matthew 24:37

The flood is not yet here and the ark doors have not been sealed. However, I believe it has started to rain.

originally posted by: Char-Lee
a reply to: markosity1973


It sounds like a Tesla test may have been done.

In 1937, Tesla composed a treatise entitled The Art of Projecting Concentrated Non-dispersive Energy through the Natural Media concerning charged particle beams.[38]

That's a subjective idea at best. Even if it were proved to be true, it does not diminish the validity or accuracy of the prediction given to uneducated children from a dirt poor rural village in Portugal years before it happened.

How could the children have known such a thing. What would make them think another war was coming and that a sign in the mountains in Europe precede it

Hitler even waited for the sign;

It was prophecized by Our Lady at Fátima in the Second Secret that another war would break out during the reign of Pius XI, and that war would be started when the sky would be illumined by an “unknown light.” This was the famous Aurora Borealis of January 25, 1938, the “Sign From Heaven” that apparently only Freemason Adolf Hitler was able to put his finger on according to another probable Freemason, “Father” Malachi Martin. Hitler said after witnessing this 1938 Aurora Borealis, “Now we are going to shed blood.” And that's what he and his fellow Freemasons went on to do in World War II, which began only a few months after the fulfillment of this warning from the Second Secret of Fátima:

Source

a reply to: Josephus

I believe it started to rain, yes. Only this time fire, and the events will be much faster this time. There isn't Noah to build the ask 40 years. There are modern tech and space arcs, and most of us know that. All who want to know. I am surprised the MSreligion (most of them) are so outdated. We may have 3 days to enter the arcs, more or less. Rather less. What more to say for a world who doesn't want to listening. Ukraine is an example and here I agree with the Eagle. Putin won't stop. If it is this year or next year it doesn't matter so much. It has already been postponed repeatedly for years, let notice that fact. 2008 could have been our last on earth.

I am totally disappointed by the far not enough response received. Not only to me but to everyone who enters in those topics. It is not strange Great Warning has been cancelled. There isn't anything more to be related to the wide public who can switch on the TV and see similar things being spoken of. If they don't want to comprehend, they don't want. The failure is not mine or anyone else.

In 1990s I'd cry and weep for the presumed fulfillment of Fatima. Now I see all that was fake(d). And wonder why the people who see it not worse than me, may be better, don't cry and weep now. They will, soon.

originally posted by: 2012newstart

In 1990s I'd cry and weep for the presumed fulfillment of Fatima. Now I see all that was fake(d). And wonder why the people who see it not worse than me, may be better, don't cry and weep now. They will, soon.

Dude, you're suffering from apocalyptic delerium. Things will happen if and when God is good and ready.

BTW the source I linked in that Fatima post with the pics is a catholic apostasy website. The info I used from it on here is legit, but it claims that Mary is God, that the Vatican was to be destroyed in 2011 and that the new seat if papacy is to be in Fatima. These are just a few if the heretical gems I stumbled across.

Beware the apocalypse bug. You too are in danger if being as credible as that website if you keep denouncing approved catholic material.

a reply to: markosity1973

the whole idea of writing in conspiracy forum in the section Conspiracy in Religion, is to INVESTIGATE those secret things that are notorious and that shaped the past decades.

I don't know anything of you and frankly it is not my job. But if you have lived with the life of the Church (anyone, mostly Catholic) in the 1960s - 1980s on one side, and on the other if you have known the reality of communism, you would hardly miss Fatima as being the main beacon for the true faithful in the Catholic church. In other words, whoever was not formal catholic beieved Fatima. There wasn't Medjugorje, Garabandal was not that famous, there weren't or weren't famous other apparitions. Generations of believers of both Catholic and Orthodox expected the release of Fatima, at the same time living the reality of the cold war.

In 1990s it seemed as the cold war ended and opened the door for the era of peace. To cheer on that is normal, it would be strange if you don't. I cheered on that fact with my friends, and I will not tell you more details of my background. Then, some 10 y later the Vatican released the 2000 half text.

If you don't understand that, you don't understand anything of prophecy, timelines, averted or pending events. You have to buy a good Fatima book and start reading it from the very beginning.

You may not quote all those Medjugorje phrases. I know them all and more. I want to see fulfillment, and if not, at least Disclosure of secret texts. If Medjugorje keeps secret, Fatima should be released in 1960.

I don't have to denounce "approved catholic material" as you call it. I quoted POPES and Cardinals (Neues Europa Fatima 3 approved by card. Ottaviani) and you quote your own ideas only. And turn from positive to negative personal attitude incl personal qualitative wordings, as fast as the sun rises and sets. I didn't attack you in this thread, sir! Rather was quite polite, and even deleted 2 posts to match with the smooth conversation after your quite strange reaction...I will not enter in more details.

Shall I search copy and paste the words of St John Paul II said before the German bishops in Fulda about Fatima 3? Why don't you do your homework instead?

Text of the Published Report

The Holy Father was asked, "What about the Third Secret of Fatima? Should it not have already been published by 1960?"

Pope John Paul II replied: "Given the seriousness of the contents, my predecessors in the Petrine office diplomatically preferred to postpone publication so as not to encourage the world power of Communism to make certain moves.

"On the other hand, it should be sufficient for all Christians to know this: if there is a message in which it is written that the oceans will flood whole areas of the earth, and that from one moment to the next millions of people will perish, truly the publication of such a message is no longer something to be so much desired."

www.fatima.org...
(shortened)

"What is going to happen to the Church?"

He answered: "We must prepare ourselves to suffer great trials before long, such as will demand of us a disposition to give up even life, and a total dedication to Christ and for Christ … With your and my prayer it is possible to mitigate this tribulation, but it is no longer possible to avert it, because only thus can the Church be effectively renewed. How many times has the renewal of the Church sprung from blood! This time, too, it will not be otherwise. We must be strong and prepared, and trust in Christ and His Mother, and be very, very assiduous in praying the Rosary."

Reading through this thread I see no one really mentions the truth about Satan. So here it is from the Bible:

(1 John 5:19) . . .We know we originate with God, but the whole world is lying in the [power of the] wicked one.

(John 14:30) . . .I shall not speak much with YOU anymore, for the ruler of the world is coming. And he has no hold on me. . .

(Matthew 4:8, 9) . . .Again the Devil took him along to an unusually high mountain, and showed him all the kingdoms of the world and their glory, 9 and he said to him: “All these things I will give you if you fall down and do an act of worship to me.”


Yes, the REAL truth as revealed in the Holy Scriptures is that Satan the Devil is the ruler of the world. Not only for 100 years. When Jesus was on earth he called Satan the ruler of the world, and Satan tempted Jesus by offering him power, rulership over all the kingdoms of the earth, if Jesus would bow down and worship Satan.

You have all been duped if you thought that Satan only has had reign for 100 years. He's been ruling the world since the fall of man in the Garden of Eden, at God's permission, to prove whether mankind can live without God's good and loving rule.

Man's rule, (and Satan's, for he is the real ruler of the world, since almost the beginning) has been an utter failure. So has Satan's.

NOW, it is interesting to note that since 1914 Satan has been cast down from the heavens and confined with his demon cohorts to the earth. Because of this, and because since 1914 (100 years ago) we entered into the time of the end, the Bible stated that there would be WOE TO THE EARTH because Satan has been cast down and has come with GREAT ANGER, knowing that his time is limited:

(Revelation 12:9) . . .So down the great dragon was hurled, the original serpent, the one called Devil and Satan, who is misleading the entire inhabited earth; he was hurled down to the earth, and his angels were hurled down with him.

(Revelation 12:12) . . .On this account be glad, YOU heavens and YOU who reside in them! Woe for the earth and for the sea, because the Devil has come down to YOU, having great anger, knowing he has a short period of time.”

Able Archer 1983 is a film about the period of the Cold War during Andropov and Reagan. In a military Drill of West Europe, the USSR leaders saw prep for the big doom. Other unrelated events piled up, such as the shooting of the Korean Boeing over Kamchatka, and false alarm of one Soviet satellite of US ICBM launch. The world survived at the brink. Perhaps worse crisis than the Cuban, because the missiles in 1983 were bigger and more. And because it was expected at least from the Soviet site. The doctrine of preemptive strike was employed up to the hitting the red button.

Highly recommended, a must watch for everyone who didn't have the chance to live in the Cold War or who was too busy with his own life in that time and didn't realize what happened in the world.

Today we are at the brink again. The missiles are even more deadly. Medvedev just said the standoff in Ukraine leads to a new cold war (have to look at his exact wordings). Today the time of response is no more 15 minutes (i.e. if the time of ICBM to fly from Russia to USA was 25-30 min, in a 15 min alert USA could respond before being hit. The so called MAD doctrine). Today the time of response is less than 120 seconds, said the Russian general overseeing the space forces. Whether or not there are space based weapons, one could ony guess, and my best guess is yes there are from both sides. With the lasers that existed since 1988 Polyus, it will take not minutes but seconds to start it all. It will be devastating.

If someone doesn't understand that, he should go back to learn basic things. On top of that situation we are continuously kept ignorant about the real text of Fatima, whether or not Russia should be or was consecrated to Mary, and a number of newer apparitions that add up to the picture (Great Warning apps being part of it). We are kept in dark intentionally. In the era of internet that doesn't work well.

The above mentioned facts make de facto dead MAD doctrine. Either side can't have the luxury of 15 minutes hair triggered alert to respond with ICBM to a massive disabling first strike. There could still be retaliatory secret forces, such as deployed submarines at the time of the strike. However the modern anti-missile defenses that Russia is not exception from (contrary to the public view) will render less effective such retaliation to the point to be "acceptable" by the aggressor country. The acceptability of destruction on the aggressor's own territory varies though. For USA 100-200 retaliatory warheads over 100 cities are a way too unacceptable loss. One cannot say the same for the vast Siberia. Moscow and Peterburg have good underground subway system the deepest in the world and could hope for the good portion of their populations being saved. In other words, Russian generals and strategists might be ready to lose half of population and all industrial centers on the ground, if they have developed enough underground facilities, such as Yamantau mountains and Norilsk underground "mining" city long 200 km (source RT). Those two are all we know about. Presumably there are hundreds.

If MAD is dead, that means MAD is no more containment for the aggressor. The country(s) who decided to be the aggressor have only one restraint and that is the moral one. They need a good enough excuse for their aggression that anyway will be remembered for eons of times. I.e. they will be culprits before history and before next generations, therefore they need a solid excuse that they were attacked first or otherwise they couldn't survive if they didn't attack. One may ponder about different scenarios of nuclear war that are now available online.

So I wonder isn't it the crisis in Ukraine exactly such an excuse that will be pursued to its limits? Or bigger one will come at its time? The Middle East didn't turn to be the flashing point of WW3 but it still have the potential to do so. The possibility of Asian WW3 with very complicated millenia-old relations is yet another group of scenarios.

For the purpose of prophecy we discuss, namely Fatima and similar, Russia is the main point of concern and not China. At least for now.

Is it possible USA and Russia, China to have enough space powers such as flying triangles, pyramids (Russia) and romboids (China) along with sufficient number of underground facilities, to assure survivability of minimum population and therefore do not care for the rest?

I want to believe someone cares. May be it is directly God thru His holy angels who will come to save the chosen ones hours, minutes before the final doom happens.

After explosion of thousands of nukes the earth's atmosphere will produce nuclear polar desert at best, and inferno of ignition of atmospheric N2 at worst. Nobody on the surface would survive in 1-2 years with the death of all vegetation and radioactive rains. It is not a joke, neither is craziness to soberly assess those possibilities.

God didn't stop the flood. Peter speaks of a punishment by fire. Learn to read God's word in a way it is and not in a way it pleases you.

a reply to: iSomeone

I've read through this whole post - and I agree with you iSomeone - people who are believing in the roman catholic church and all of their "prophets" - are falling prey to -

1: anyone but God knows the end of the world -

2: No man comes to God the Father, except through the blood sacrificed through Jesus Christ, our Lord,

3: "even the elect shall be mislead" during the endtimes.

I need to add that the "oh so wonderful" john paul the pope, did state that Mary was a "co-redemptrix". which is in direct abductcation of the Word of God.

I'm certainly not perfect - and I'm certainly not right all the time -

But, I feel one must be quite cautious in what one may be professing to be the "truth".

Including Mary, draws a lot of different religions together - paganism being one of them "Mother Gia" crap.

I see the jesuit (read their history) pope francis bringing all the world together in a NWO "religion" soon - showing satan at his true deviousness.

And it just might happen with comet linear creating quite the light show when pope francis goes to Jerusalem to take his "seat" at the temple this weekend - May 24 - 26.

All the world will see his "greatness"/sarcasm.

I didn't meet the positive and supportive attitude of catholics in this forum, rather I was accused again with the same rhetoric as in previous threads although by different poster.

No matter I kept it tightly to prophecy and real life events and their interpretations.

If that is not interesting for catholics and others to ponder about prophecy, and to give even more prophecy that is available online to argue their positions, what is it then important for them? Perhaps they on't want it to exist at all. It does exist no matter if they like it or not.

If so, I will break the self-imposed restriction to keep the topic on the ground, and will say it for the readers and for the generations to come:

What if each of the superpowers is aided by one or more alien races thus having their weaponry and agendas? Where is the place of the Vatican in that? Does it mean a major shift pope Francis' words of last Monday to baptize aliens? I cannot but accept it as such. Hope pope Francis will come with something more than his predeccessors came with, namely the perspective of widespread suffering blood an death for the church (ref. JP2 words above). The gross martyrdom at Fatima-2000 is not the only option an certainly not the way for the church to survive in the 3rd millenium. No matter how holy martyrs are, if everyone becomes a martyr then where is the living church anymore? We have reached to the end of the ages, much sooner than planned by God. Or let name it: planned by the Devil to exterminate God's people on earth.

Call me now crazy fanatic an paranoiac. As a reward by the respected forum members who w ere given quite much data by my humble person, for free (damn it).

I'd like to hear the views of the several alternative catholic preachers who post online. Their views matter for me, although I don't agree on all they say. I hope they read here too. In fact, I will start checking their websites and will stop checking this one. Their sites say something substantial.

I'm going to start off by saying I'm not religious, I'm not committed to being an Atheist but nothing has changed my mind from that perspective (and the concept of a deity is something I often think about).

That said, lets assume that for one reason or another Leo XIII's vision were true (I've seen the future myself on numerous occasions... I certainly can't rule it out). I'm pretty confident in saying those 100 years haven't yet started. From about 1950 onwards we have experienced the most peaceful time in all of recorded history. It's true things started out bad with WW1 and WW2 but great things came out of that. The UN, close economic ties between nations, a huge increase in the standard of living, a technology boom and many other things.

Growing up I went to a catholic HS and one of the things we were taught in religion class was what Satan is. What we were taught wasn't that Satan is some evil being who promotes incest, cannibalism, torture, and all manner of evil things but rather that following the ways of Satan is to put love for yourself ahead of everything. Basically it's the idea of seeking individual glory. Likewise Hell was taught to be a place not of misery in the traditional sense but rather an eternity where you are cut off from God's love.

When I think about things in those terms I certainly see things in the world today that are bad going by the idea that self gratification above all is worship of the devil but the pope was describing a systemic issue where everyone acts in this fashion. I just don't see that in the world today. While certain individuals act that way and some cultures push that lifestyle to an extent, such a thing is not a world wide epidemic

originally posted by: ReturnofTheSonOfNothing
a reply to: 2012newstart

Sounds like the poor guy had a stroke or something. No wonder he had visions..

(I kindly ask all spammers and trolls, no matter how intelligent they might be, whose only goal is to harass posters and divert topics as much as they could, serving their unknown hideous goals, to please keep out of here!)

Paying attention to details isn't one of your strengths, is it?

Yet, you will probably believe a Sylvia Browne or John Edward because they aren't priests.

originally posted by: 2012newstart
Although I don't agree with it, I have to say there is a theory that the 7 heads of the beast of revelation are the 7 leaders of USSR. The problem is they are more in number, if we count all of them
Lenin, Stalin, Khrushchev, Brezhnev, Andropov, Chernenko, Gorbachev = 7
Yeltsin, Putin = ?

So what's the point of even mentioning it when it is patently incorrect? People have theories about everything so what makes this worth bringing up?

On ATS every year if not every month is the end of times, until the next end of times, little bit sad really how people would prefer doom and gloom.

Wait...the last hundred years were "Satan's Reign"??? Hahahahaha

Then that means that Satan ain't so bad. You're trying to tell me mankind suffered unimaginable suffering in the last century? Really? You really think the last hundred years was that bad?

If you truly believe that Satan was in charge for the last hundred years then I say that Satan has done more for mankind in 100 years then God has ever done. Mankind has flourished and prospered. List our accomplishments and balance them against the "bad" things. Still a huge win for humanity. Oh, and those "bad" things I mentioned? We did those to ourselves. No Satan or God required to explain our mistakes.

originally posted by: ScientiaFortisDefendit

originally posted by: ReturnofTheSonOfNothing
a reply to: 2012newstart

Sounds like the poor guy had a stroke or something. No wonder he had visions..

(I kindly ask all spammers and trolls, no matter how intelligent they might be, whose only goal is to harass posters and divert topics as much as they could, serving their unknown hideous goals, to please keep out of here!)

Paying attention to details isn't one of your strengths, is it?

Yet, you will probably believe a Sylvia Browne or John Edward because they aren't priests.

Don't believe I am spamming or trolling, merely offering an alternative naturalistic explanation.

Or do you just want a wide-eyed credulous echo chamber?

> Yet, you will probably believe a Sylvia Browne or John Edward because they aren't priests.

Hah. Certainly not. Anyone here who knows me knows I don't believe in any of that nonsense.

originally posted by: 2012newstart
Although I don't agree with it, I have to say there is a theory that the 7 heads of the beast of revelation are the 7 leaders of USSR. The problem is they are more in number, if we count all of them
Lenin, Stalin, Khrushchev, Brezhnev, Andropov, Chernenko, Gorbachev = 7
Yeltsin, Putin = ?

I'd also not believe it, because there were 8 leaders of the USSR (Yeltsin and Putin are/were leaders of The Russian Federation) you missed Georgy Malenkov

Okay....SO don't want to be the glass-half-empty kinda guy here but....okay, let's say Satan's hold on us loses momentum in late July...YAY!....BUT.....does that mean that he's kinda under the gun here....getting down to the deadline...feeling like he may have to pull an all-nighter? This could mean he's going to be working overtime and pouring things on EXTRA heavy pretty soon!

I mean...I HOPE not....but....if I were the supreme overlord of all things evil.....that's how I'd be rolling!

originally posted by: 2012newstart
If we have 40 more days (until June 28) or 70 more days (until July 28) any culmination of that 100y period should be expected exactly in those frames. Including the possibility of short but devastating WW3. Hope that doesn't happen and say that as precaution and possibility, not as certainty. What we see happen in Ukraine though is an escalation with unknown end.

The Russian leaked some news (propoganda?) that Davy Crocket mini-nukes supplied by Israel were used on the planes at 9-11. The justification was it explains melted metal, why the steel structure collapsed, and why the radio mast was never found. If that were true, that would truly lead to all sorts of repercussions.

Then there is that trade deal between China and Russia, replacing the petro-dollar with some other currency.