Sandy Hook Forensic Evidence

a reply to: toidiem

You don't think there was a chance that date was changed to as a cover up?

a reply to: EmmyLou82

ANYTHING is possible....and i mean ABSOLUTELY ANYTHING....at least as it pertains to this case...

the thing is, it's not about what's possible, it's about what you can prove..

Ok so...what now? There seems to be all these discrepancies in the reports and evidence, but what can we do? I know a few pages back it was discussed about going to the press but is there anything else we can do with this? 3mperorConstantine did a good job of exposing some contradictions in a really professional way IMO so could anyone do anything about it.

The very sensitive nature of these deaths makes it really difficult to question the official story, even here on ATS, so is there any way to get a response. I know there was that meeting fairly recently in Newtown with some of those who questioned the official report but that doesn't seem to have made much of an impact.

Regardless of any further conclusions that anyone can come to, this thread clearly demonstrates that there are some errors in the investigation and reporting at the very least.

An image of Adam Lanza's Death Certificate has been posted by one of the parents of the victims on his site:
plus.google.com...

Date of death is the 14th, no specific time just AM as in before noon. Signed by CME Dr. Carver on the 16th.
I don't see any evidence of the date of death being altered. So, for me at least, I'll let that point go at that.

the lead investigator in the sandy hook school shootings has just died following a short illness.

a reply to: spirited75

wait, what?

got a link?

Here's one:
www.thedailysheeple.com...

Such a distinctive name should make it easier to search for more.
[I'm guessing speculation about his death might be off topic for this thread. ]

a reply to: toidiem


Was he investigating the official story?


Apparently he died in a 'Yale Hospital' after being transferred from another. Can anyone confirm this? Adam Lanza was treated by a Yale Psychiatrist and also apparently the deceased from Sandy Hook School were taken to Danbury hospital (Yale Hospital).

Seems a bit suspicious to me. But maybe that's just me!!

He had investigated the incident. He was part of the system that produced what we call the "official story." And they are ones who say the case is closed.

I haven't checked into any Yale connections. But considering the location, it isn't surprising that there are some.

a reply to: toidiem

Is there a Yale University Number 322 involved too?

Getting back to real evidence (please!!!)...
Since I don't have any experience with this weapon, I was going to research this more first, but I'd rather go ahead and put it out there.

Has anyone explained the corroded condition of the barrel of the Bushmaster 223? What could have caused that? Could/would a barrel be in that condition after having just fired over 100 rds.? Why is only the barrel corroded and the rest looks in good clean condition? I know some parts are plastic and some are probably made of different metals, but does this look normal?

An image of it was posted here:
www.abovetopsecret.com...
And there is also another one of it laid out on the evidence table (here's one link to a backup copy):
[sorry link did not work and I can't figure out how to embed images]

When reviewing the photo, I also took special notice that the strap was attached to the corroded barrel but not to the stock. In other words, it was only attached to one of the, what appear to be, mismatched parts. Could that be another clue? Unless the 223 had been moved before that photo in the classroom was taken, the strap could not have just been knocked loose by impact with the floor (which is highly unlikely anyway) because the strap is lying underneath the rifle.

Taken together, the odd condition of the barrel along with the strap being attached only to the barrel and not the stock, makes me suspicious. I'll let those more familiar with that weapon comment further on what it may indicate. I feel like there should be more detailed explanation of this oddity in the reports since it is the weapon used to **** all the victims.

a reply to: toidiem

it really does look like heat damage....

i mean, i've personally never seen that kind of damage on a semi-auto before....the only time i ever saw that was on an M-16 running in full-auto..we ran 2 beta mags through it, and the barrel was glowing a bit...and after that, it looked kinda like the one in the picture....

Okay, good. Maybe those who know will follow up with that line of thought.

And I'll go ahead and toss out my next major concern with the reports that I've read. That is the description by one officer in particular*, and somewhat supported by others, of what he saw that seemed out of place in the classroom. I think it may have been the first officer to enter that room. I don't want to elaborate on the details - not sure I could if I did - but it made my blood run cold when I read it. His description, if accurate, means the event could not have taken place the way we've been told it did. And by that I am not implying that nothing happened; totally the contrary, in fact. I don't want to discuss the details, but did anybody else notice this? I can not see how it could have been included in the reports and then apparently just ignored. Please be careful with your comments if you reply.

*Don't ask me to post the report because there would likely be some crude replies that would get the thread locked down. The ones who interpreted it the way I did won't need a link to remember it.

a reply to: toidiem

Could you post a link? U2U? You can't expect people to know what particular internet source and police report you're referring to. I've been following this case since the start and I have no idea what you're referring to, let alone the ones that are jumping in late

originally posted by: toidiem
Okay, good. Maybe those who know will follow up with that line of thought.

And I'll go ahead and toss out my next major concern with the reports that I've read. That is the description by one officer in particular*, and somewhat supported by others, of what he saw that seemed out of place in the classroom. I think it may have been the first officer to enter that room. I don't want to elaborate on the details - not sure I could if I did - but it made my blood run cold when I read it. His description, if accurate, means the event could not have taken place the way we've been told it did. And by that I am not implying that nothing happened; totally the contrary, in fact. I don't want to discuss the details, but did anybody else notice this? I can not see how it could have been included in the reports and then apparently just ignored. Please be careful with your comments if you reply.

*Don't ask me to post the report because there would likely be some crude replies that would get the thread locked down. The ones who interpreted it the way I did won't need a link to remember it.

If I had to guess, I would imagine you are referring to the pages shown in this post??
(posted by 3CE on 3/19)

www.abovetopsecret.com...

originally posted by: MRM13
Ok so...what now? There seems to be all these discrepancies in the reports and evidence, but what can we do? I know a few pages back it was discussed about going to the press but is there anything else we can do with this? 3mperorConstantine did a good job of exposing some contradictions in a really professional way IMO so could anyone do anything about it.

The very sensitive nature of these deaths makes it really difficult to question the official story, even here on ATS, so is there any way to get a response. I know there was that meeting fairly recently in Newtown with some of those who questioned the official report but that doesn't seem to have made much of an impact.

Regardless of any further conclusions that anyone can come to, this thread clearly demonstrates that there are some errors in the investigation and reporting at the very least.

AbleChild.org was obviously reading along and picked up some of 3mperorConstane's research.

The Convicted Offender DNA evidence from the opening post (published only yesterday)
ablechild.org...

This article from Able Child covers the Garmin Nuvi GPS discrepancies discussed on this thread from pages 18-21
ablechild.org...

For people who know who AbleChild is, they are an org who is against the drugging of children. Last year them + their attorneys SUED the Medical Examiners office for access to Adam Lanza's medical records.
The case hearing video was posted by 3CE here www.abovetopsecret.com...

Any way this just shows that some people ARE starting to dig into the research!
Keep it up!

a reply to: Soldato231547

Yes, that's it. And since you did post it: more specifically 2nd image 1st sentence.
Still gives me goosebumps. But folks, be very careful about posting any comments here please (note which section that thread is in).

a reply to: toidiem

that's the thing..if it's printed in the official report, they can't L-O-L you for it...