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originally posted by: jheated5
a reply to: GeminiSky
No black box? What do you think they are trying to track while they're sending in the submersible? They got the radar ping 2 weeks ago from the black box. Still it is a non issue distraction to me, why a story has like this has lasted so long is beyond me, I'm not taking the conspiracy jab on this one..... Leave it alone already.... OOO we haven't visited Malaysia in ooo idk since 1966 and all of a sudden....
originally posted by: templar knight
Only a few months ago, my friend visited RAF Fylindales (after 5 year wait). This big radar base - it was rumoured - with its sister radars could pick up 10 m2 of metal anywhere fling in the world. Anyway, as I say only a few months ago, they were told that the radar could pick up the missiles in Syria on the edge of its range if the missiles went high enough. This is about 2,200 miles away.
So I think you are onto something - as these radars were meant to cover the world. And i have not mentioned Diego Garcia which would need special protection
originally posted by: Zaphod58
a reply to: templar knight
It's an OTH-B radar. It can't see "anywhere in the world", as you clearly said 2200 miles is about as far as it can see. It also can't see too closely to its antennas.
Those radars are rare because they require huge areas and are expensive. There are only six or seven that I can think of off the to of my head, and two of those are in storage.
The transmitter antenna is usually around 600 feet long, and the receiver around 950 feet long or so.
originally posted by: sean
I remember back in the day when beepers was widely used and remember reading a story of a diver received a message that vibrated under his wet suit. Now if that story is true and a beeper can do that then why can't a box with today's 2014 technology not have a satellite GPS locator?? If the box did have a GPS/ping locator a submarine could drag a buoy and pick it up. I just can't see how Boeing or the government cannot find this plane. Not only that in any case there would be a massive debris field. Many metal parts wing's fins etc have air pockets and will float and not sink. There is no excuse for not finding this plane.
originally posted by: GeminiSky
Thats of course using the logic that the publicly known radars are the best we have (who knows how advanced the current classified radars are??)
GS
originally posted by: Everlastingknowitall
Something occurs to me:
Aren't we talking about one of the world's currently most watched, most listened to, most patrolled area of the world? China, Malaysia, Indonesia, Japan, Taiwan, several groups of American ships. Some of the most sophisticated listening equipment in the world is currently tuned to that are of the world full time with all the tensions there between China and Japan over the south China Sea and disputed territories there. So how does a plane flying through and around that area of the world not be picked up, at least as part of the noise of everything else they are watching? Why haven't they gone over the noise of the area? That seems odd to me.
I personally think that an attempt was made to steal the plane, but it did not succeed. With oceanic currents, etc., plus a skilled pilot making a controlled landing on the surface of the ocean, that plane may be a thousand miles off of the plotted possible courses by now, don't you think? That seems like the most plausible to me.
Of course, my father-in-law worked as a high ranking radar operator for the Air Force for years on some black projects, and his theory is that they know where it went, and just don't want to tell us that Pakistan has it, because we would all be afraid of an incoming flying missile disguised as a jetliner.
Meh, I'm not afraid. Fate will be what it will be.
timesofindia.indiatimes.com... 527.cms?
LONDON: The Malaysian prime minister has finally confirmed reports that the missing Malaysia Airlines Flight MH370 was tracked by military radar, as he prepared to host US President Barack Obama in Kuala Lumpur seven weeks after the plane disappeared....
...Speaking to CNN, Najib confirmed that the radar did indeed track the plane once it had turned back from its original flight path — but said that this was only established "after the event".
He said he believed there was someone monitoring the radar at the time, but that nothing more was done to investigate the unidentified aircraft because "it was deemed not to be hostile".
"It behaved like a commercial airline, following a normal flight path," Najib said.
originally posted by: Danbones
a reply to: Zaphod58
timesofindia.indiatimes.com... 527.cms?
LONDON: The Malaysian prime minister has finally confirmed reports that the missing Malaysia Airlines Flight MH370 was tracked by military radar, as he prepared to host US President Barack Obama in Kuala Lumpur seven weeks after the plane disappeared....
...Speaking to CNN, Najib confirmed that the radar did indeed track the plane once it had turned back from its original flight path — but said that this was only established "after the event".
He said he believed there was someone monitoring the radar at the time, but that nothing more was done to investigate the unidentified aircraft because "it was deemed not to be hostile".
"It behaved like a commercial airline, following a normal flight path," Najib said.
i just had a feeling...
Obama said: "Obviously we don't know all the details but we do know the plane went down in the ocean in this part of this world. It is a big place and it is a very challenging and laborious effort. It is going to take quite some time."