Climate Change Already Impacting ‘All Continents’ According To New International Report

Here is an interesting "counter-story" about the IPCC "report".

This week, the United Nations’ Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC) is releasing its latest report, the “Working Group II Contribution to the Fifth Assessment Report.” Like its past reports, this one predicts apocalyptic consequences if mankind fails to give the UN the power to tax and regulate fossil fuels and subsidize and mandate the use of alternative fuels. But happily, an international group of scientists I have been privileged to work with has conducted an independent review of IPCC’s past and new reports, along with the climate science they deliberately exclude or misrepresent.



The IPCC's Latest Report Deliberately Excludes And Misrepresents Important Climate Science

Hmmm

darn it beeze, your eye ball is melting
thats not global warming....thats eyeball warming that's what that is

why did i not see xu's post comming....?
like you knew that would be there every time the IPCC speaks
right away there is an article...
just based on what facts the IPCC left out...
never about what they put IN the report....just on what they left OUT....

its almost like they never really put any facts in in th first place


wow fact free ...ICE SCREAM!
no fact people round here....
hey factso...
do i look fact in this dress?

beezzer

jimmyx

beezzer

amazing


Are you guys this disbelieving of all science or just climate science and if so, how do you pick and chose what scientific theories to believe or not?

When it is politically motivated, I question everything.

Science is great. Science is accurate, if done correctly.

This is more emotional than science.

your right...it is emotional...emotional that these people have to be evacuated from their island country
www.earth-policy.org...
and it's emotional here too
www.pri.org...
and here is another island nation under threat
news.bbc.co.uk...

of course, all of this is politically motivated....right?....right?

Show me the proof that man caused it and it is not a normal fluctuation of the planet.

You can't.

Fail!

Try again!

Like how man in his 'infinite' wisdom built his cities along the coasts of the world.

And here it its at least 2000 years later they all sit under water.

The 'industrialization' of mankind didn't begin until the last 200 or so years.

I wonder what 'caused' that.

reply to post by xuenchen


It's the "Cute Fluffy Kitten" Defense.

For political motivation, followers of Global-Climate-Rain-Tax-Change-Manmade-Weather pick the worst case scenario.

Something so horrible, that no sane rational person would ever be against.

Then they enact taxes, draconian rules with impunity along with the followers who eat this stuff up.

It is emotional lies!

Then you get reports that refute the horror (the horror) and it'll be ignored because it doesn't conform to the current political/social meme.

reply to post by buster2010

China is working on cutting back on their pollution and going to renewable resources. Link

And Iran, and North Korea are going full bore after nuclear power!

All the 'cool' kids think alternative energy is the greatest thing since microwaveable mac-n- cheese.

Are 'we' or the 'west' going to invade them to stop them?

I wonder how long it will be before they are delcared 'eco terrorists'.

reply to post by neo96


thats my fault Neo, i did a thread....
sunken harbors...its in my siggy
well except the harbors didn't sink, the water rose....

funny thing: the bloodlines in charge then are the same bloodlines in charge now...
( as i think i showed on that thread)
you'd think they would have learned by now

Don't trust ' the World according to..' Reports.

neo96

beezzer

jimmyx

beezzer

amazing


Are you guys this disbelieving of all science or just climate science and if so, how do you pick and chose what scientific theories to believe or not?

When it is politically motivated, I question everything.

Science is great. Science is accurate, if done correctly.

This is more emotional than science.

your right...it is emotional...emotional that these people have to be evacuated from their island country
www.earth-policy.org...
and it's emotional here too
www.pri.org...
and here is another island nation under threat
news.bbc.co.uk...

of course, all of this is politically motivated....right?....right?

Show me the proof that man caused it and it is not a normal fluctuation of the planet.

You can't.

Fail!

Try again!

Like how man in his 'infinite' wisdom built his cities along the coasts of the world.

And here it its at least 2000 years later they all sit under water.

The 'industrialization' of mankind didn't begin until the last 200 or so years.

I wonder what 'caused' that.

Man built his cities close to water for farming and travel.
That these cities may be submerged in the coming years is perhaps fact. In order to address this problem, their governments should be addressing their issues now instead of building or purchasing weapons of mass destruction and social engineering. For instance, start with Israel, Palestine and/all Middle Eastern countries as well as Chinese cities along the Yangtze river.....the list is endless. A small portion of the GDP of each county will begin to correct the problems, but taxing everyone as a response is a useless measure, these very governments will simply stray the course and continue doing what they know instead of doing what they should . Look to China where they are already building ghost cities presumably for resettlement. Nothing really new here.

This is how I see the myth of Global-Climate-Weather-Snow-Warm-Cloud-Change-Tax.

Imagine an island.

On this island is a village. It also has a volcano.

Now the volcano started erupting.

The village elders got together and went "what the heck!"

They went to the villagers and said, "If you give us all your valuables, the volcano gods will stop and they will be happy again."

If the volcano stops, win!
If the volcano continues, then the offering were not enough, and the villagers will have to cough up more.

So right now the village elders are making noise.
Many people are ready to line up and throw the elders their valuables.

Some of us, we aren't too sure about the honesty of the village elders.

But we get yelled at by the rest of the villagers because they don't want to anger the volcano gods.

reply to post by xuenchen


Your article seems to be of a dubious nature. It says:

We know the authors of the IPCC’s reports have financial conflicts of interest, since the government bureaucracies that select them and the UN that oversees and edits the final reports stand to profit from public alarm over the possibility that global warming will be harmful. The authors of the NIPCC series have no such conflicts. The series is funded by three private family foundations without any financial interest in the outcome of the global warming debate.

Now who is this NIPCC you ask. Because it sounds official.

-The Alternative Reality of the Heartland Institute’s “NIPCC” Report

So the article claims the Heartland Institute have no conflicts of interest. So what kind of things does the Heartland institutes NIPCC do you ask.

Heartland’s report was written under the auspices of the “Nongovernmental International Panel of Climate Change” (NIPCC). If you read that sentence too quickly, you could easily confuse it with the UN’s Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC). That confusion is intentional.

The IPCC was founded in 1988 to bring together the world’s top climate researchers—it’s like The Avengers for science—and have them summarize the current state of knowledge about how climate is changing. The IPCC’s fourth assessment report earned the organization a Nobel Prize, won jointly with Al Gore in 2007. The IPCC’s fifth assessment report is currently being released in sections.

This Heartland NIPCC report presents an alternative reality for climate science. Just as Conservapedia offers its readers comforting information reinforcing predetermined views, the NIPCC gives self-styled climate “skeptics” a fig leaf for their rejection of standard science. While the IPCC analyzes the issue using relevant peer-reviewed science, the NIPCC offers the tiniest slice of information possible, cherry-picked factoids out of context and without regard to the overall picture.
The danger in the Heartland Institute's mass mailing is that some K-12 teachers may mistake what they see for real science. K-12 teachers teach a wide range of subjects in which they have variable experience and expertise. As climate science is incorporated into courses, many teachers find themselves looking for information to use in class. And here, delivered right to their mailbox, is Heartland's report dressed up to look like a real scientific assessment from that group...what was the name, again? NIPCC? IPCC? Are they different?

The Heartland Institute is an American conservative and libertarian[2] public policy think tank based in Chicago, which states that it advocates free market policies.[3][4][5][6] The Institute is designated as a 501(c)(3) non-profit by the Internal Revenue Service and has a full-time staff of 31,[7] including editors and senior fellows,[8] as well as 222 unpaid policy advisors.[9] Heartland's 990 form in 2011[10] reported revenues of $4.7 million. The Institute was founded in 1984 and conducts research and advocacy work on issues including government spending, taxation, healthcare, education, tobacco policy, hydraulic fracturing[11] global warming, information technology, and free-market environmentalism.wiki

So a political organizations claim that they have no conflicts of interest.

reply to post by Cynic

Man built his cities close to water for farming and travel.

Wasn't aware that ocean water could be used for farming.

Look to China where they are already building ghost cities presumably for resettlement. Nothing really new here.

Those cities were built for other reasons.

Mainly because of keynesian economics.

Rosinitiate
I have had that damn 'polar vortex' swinging down into Pennsylvania wreaking havoc on my vertebrae on three separate occasions this year. We just got 3 inches of snow and ice, tomorrow will be 58 degrees. It's not normal.

Many of the natural disasters taking place are on a scale I've personally never witnessed or rarely read about. You can see the changes. I won't sit and argue that industrialization isn't playing a role in it, I see what's happening to the oceans, our land and our forests but I'd wager this change is more cyclic and less man made driven.

Either way, something's got to give.

Agreed, here in Australia we are now in the second month of autumn and we are forecast for a 35 deg (celcius) day today. This is not normal at all. The rains have not come and the heat is still hanging around. The temps this March have been stupid, anywhere from 15 deg days right up to bursts of several days in the low to mid thirties. The average temp at this time of year should be somewhere in the low to mid 20's with cool nights and rains starting to come.

Whether we are causing it, or whether it is a cyclic thing, it really is happening.

reply to post by Grimpachi


So it must really be all about money then.

Just as I suspected.

And I notice the old "global warming" buzzword is gone and replaced with "climate change".

Big money to be made with this whole debate.

The "scientists" are not convincing me.

Hard to fight Mother Nature that has 1 billion times the strength of any group of people.

But She is having a tough time of it I think !

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For the record global warming is the new 'Mayan Prophecy'

Pretty much from day 1 of the creation of 'clvilization'

There have been doom sayers screaming 'if we don't change are ways, the end is nigh'.

Global warming is the new face, and what man has always done.

Create crap up, to scare the masses.

Great quotes

Tyson-as quoted above.

"Is it political if I tell you that if we burn coal, you're going to warm the atmosphere? Or a statement of fact that you've made political? It's a Scientific statement. The fact that there are elements of society that have made it political, that's a whole other thing. We're telling you what science tells us about the world and what you do with that information that's what you do. But I worry that people are making decisions about the world under-informed about what science has to say about the world."

Bill Nye - not a scientist but still smarter than most of us.

“We have overwhelming evidence that the climate is changing. That you cannot tie any one event to that is not the same as doubt about the whole thing,” said Nye. “There is no debate in the scientific community. I encourage the Congresswoman to really look at the facts. You are our leader. We need you to change things, not deny what’s happening.”

MICHIO KAKU, PHYSICIST:

"Climate change is the 800-pound gorilla in the living room that the media dances around. But in the scientific community it's a settled question: 95 percent of scientists believe this is happening with 100 percent confidence temperatures are rising.
With 90 percent confidence, we believe it's human activity and not natural cycles that is driving the increase in temperature on the Earth."

beezzer
This is how I see the myth of Global-Climate-Weather-Snow-Warm-Cloud-Change-Tax.

Imagine an island.

On this island is a village. It also has a volcano.

Now the volcano started erupting.

The village elders got together and went "what the heck!"

They went to the villagers and said, "If you give us all your valuables, the volcano gods will stop and they will be happy again."

If the volcano stops, win!
If the volcano continues, then the offering were not enough, and the villagers will have to cough up more.

So right now the village elders are making noise.
Many people are ready to line up and throw the elders their valuables.

Some of us, we aren't too sure about the honesty of the village elders.

But we get yelled at by the rest of the villagers because they don't want to anger the volcano gods.

edit on 31-3-2014 by beezzer because: (no reason given)

Am I the only one who see the Earth is not doing anything new ?

IT gets hot.
IT gets cold.
IT gets wet.
IT gets dry.

It is in a constant state of motion.

beezzer
This is how I see the myth of Global-Climate-Weather-Snow-Warm-Cloud-Change-Tax.

Imagine an island.

On this island is a village. It also has a volcano.

Now the volcano started erupting.

The village elders got together and went "what the heck!"

They went to the villagers and said, "If you give us all your valuables, the volcano gods will stop and they will be happy again."

If the volcano stops, win!
If the volcano continues, then the offering were not enough, and the villagers will have to cough up more.

So right now the village elders are making noise.
Many people are ready to line up and throw the elders their valuables.

Some of us, we aren't too sure about the honesty of the village elders.

But we get yelled at by the rest of the villagers because they don't want to anger the volcano gods.

Your argument is fairly and squarely based upon the carbon tax philosiphy. I'm not going to argue with you about carbon tax and emissions trading as I am yet to be convinced of their merit in the real world.

However

Saying that because the governments of the world wanted a new and inventive way to scam money out of their collective and already overstretched taxpayers by blaming a mythical phenomena is bit of a fabrication. The global data does show that something is happening completely independent of the dreaded tax dept.

The climate is changing, I've posted in many threads what is happening here in the Southern Hemisphere in both Australia and New Zealand. My city is one of the most vulnerable on the planet thanks to it's location on the sea, with nothing but desert both north and west of it. It is feeling the effects deeply already with record breaking heatwaves almost every second year , warmer winters and less rainfall.

xuenchen
reply to post by Grimpachi

 

So it must really be all about money then.

Just as I suspected.

And I notice the old "global warming" buzzword is gone and replaced with "climate change".

Big money to be made with this whole debate.

The "scientists" are not convincing me.

Hard to fight Mother Nature that has 1 billion times the strength of any group of people.

But She is having a tough time of it I think !

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edit on Mar-31-2014 by xuenchen because: global

ing

so why do you deniers even care, you have no skin in the game. maybe you should try and make some money off of it yourself. consider it an opportunity to profit off of others belief system.

reply to post by markosity1973


The climate is changing.

It is always changing.

It will always continue to change.

Like the volcano in my little analogy, nature does things. It doesn't always consult man beforehand.

I see the UN and governments and politicians as taking advantage of that constant dynamic change to enact more control, more taxes, more rules.

If the climate settles down, then the governments can cry, "Success!"

If the climate continues it's dynamic patterns, then governments can say, "We didn't tax you enough!"

reply to post by xuenchen

The "scientists" are not convincing me.

Well if the scientists doing the science into climate change are not convincing you then there isn't much to talk about. You are not alone though as there are many out there like yourself, some US congressmen who have said that "because god said he would never kill/flood the earth again" they do not believe either. For myself I do depend on science and those who specialise in their fields of science to give an informed stance. Science works if it didn't we wouldn't be communicating via a computer. Superstitions have been a poor forecaster in all fields.

Climate is changing the evidence is there. You can literally see it.