The Rich MUST Be Stopped. they are feeding off ALL of us!

reply to post by benrl


Isn't make believe just a made up term to describe the impossible. Was it not impossible at one time for us to communicate as we are now.

We live now in a time where the world can communicate. All it takes for change is communication, and knowledge.

Humans have proved that if enough people want something to happen, and if it is scientifically possible, it will happen eventually.

We now live in a time with technology that something like this is possible. Is it not?

Isn't greed just a product of despair?

I feel most of the worlds problem would disappear in a world like this.

Keep in mind I am saying a world without money. Not a world without order. There will always be a place for laws. They should just be laws that are just to all, and not only a few.

Who you gonna kill first?

2nd line, because, really, what more needs to be said?

reply to post by beezzer


Are you referring to me?

If so please know, I don't think there is a need to kill anyone. Change can be brought about with peace.

Keep in mind that the people in power are 1% of the total of humanity.

Even nukes cant stop that many people without killing themselves in return. If we amass and show that this needs to happen, Their resistance will only bring about more questioning of their motives. This will in turn add to count of people wanting change.

Snowball effect if you will.

beezzer
Who you gonna kill first?

2nd line, because, really, what more needs to be said?

Depends, if they march us all off to war to prop up the economy first, might just get another mass culling of a generation of Uppity poor that think they deserve stuff.

reply to post by HanzHenry


Socialism for the needs, capitalism for the wants. That is the only possible solution to the problem. Basic foods and utilities, education, energy, medicine as public non-profit services. Every dime of the profit goes back to the budget. When individual businessmen/investors profit from such actions it is just wrong, as the supply-demand law does not work in this situation. If there is a real need for something, if you starving or about to die to illness, the piece of food or the medicine can be at any price, you would still buy it, as there is not much choice, especially if that is the only option. Of course, employee need to be paid according to their skills, although no businessman or CEO should earn millions a year off such basic needs.

reply to post by andr3w68


Some good thoughts here, and I agree for the most part. We need to re-evaluate how we view resources and how we view rewarding each other for work and contributions to society. Even NASA agrees that our current way of doing things is unsustainable. The rich are getting richer and the poor are getting poorer, and if we are complacent enough to maintain the status quo it could be disastrous for us as a species.

I think moving beyond currency will be a necessary hurdle to overcome if we are ever to reach the stars. If there are highly advanced space faring civilizations somewhere out there, I suspect that is something they left behind hundreds or even thousands of years ago. We have this idea that our current system is the only way it will ever work, because it's all we've known. We used to think that horses were the only way we could get around at one point too, and that changed. Or that the world was flat or we knew the layout of the known world. All of those things changed, and we can change the way we handle commerce and resources as well. The big question is who doesn't want it to change? Unfortunately, the people who hold all the cards will be the ones most resistant to changing the system, and they have all the toys of war to back them up.

The rich aren't just going to go, "Oh. Okay. Here's all my money. Enjoy."

People are going to die.

So those of you in favor of a mass redistribution, who's first?

Who are you going to kill first?

Peaceful means? The wealthy will just laugh. Blood will be shed.

beezzer
The rich aren't just going to go, "Oh. Okay. Here's all my money. Enjoy."

People are going to die.

So those of you in favor of a mass redistribution, who's first?

Who are you going to kill first?

Peaceful means? The wealthy will just laugh. Blood will be shed.

Unfortunately I agree. But even if we toss away the idea of mass redistribution (because it's a bad idea anyways), the result will still be the same. The wealthy aren't going to be in favor of changing a system that they themselves have authored and that has worked marvelously well to line their pockets. They aren't going to say: "Oh, you want to change the system and in the future I won't be able to live my lavish lifestyle and look down on you because we will all be equals? Ok. Enjoy!".

It doesn't matter if we find a viable solution that will actually work and will reduce wealth inequality globally. There will still be people opposed to it because it will reduce their power, influence, and advantages in the long run. Equality is a four letter word to them.

reply to post by DeadSeraph


Here is my point. If we take this seriously. If we make known we intend to harm no one, but instead are simply trying to raise discussions on the future of humanity, resistance will be futile.

The way things are going people are going to die. I WANT HUMANITY TO SURVIVE!

We are stupid, im sorry, but its the truth. I include myself in this statement. Hell, if there are other races in the universe, isnt this earth kind of the property of all?

Should we not make sure that humanity will live long past the expansion and death of our sun?

Things need to change. NOW.

DeadSeraph

beezzer
The rich aren't just going to go, "Oh. Okay. Here's all my money. Enjoy."

People are going to die.

So those of you in favor of a mass redistribution, who's first?

Who are you going to kill first?

Peaceful means? The wealthy will just laugh. Blood will be shed.

Unfortunately I agree. But even if we toss away the idea of mass redistribution (because it's a bad idea anyways), the result will still be the same. The wealthy aren't going to be in favor of changing a system that they themselves have authored and that has worked marvelously well to line their pockets. They aren't going to say: "Oh, you want to change the system and in the future I won't be able to live my lavish lifestyle and look down on you because we will all be equals? Ok. Enjoy!".

It doesn't matter if we find a viable solution that will actually work and will reduce wealth inequality globally. There will still be people opposed to it because it will reduce their power, influence, and advantages in the long run. Equality is a four letter word to them.

Why do you let this stop you. By even talking about this subject, im sure there are more NSA agents watching what I type than there are people on this website, but im not going to let that stop me. Once the message is out there, the only thing that can stop it is complacency.

*EDIT*

World change..... for the low low price of $5k

FlyersFan
People have a right to make money.
People have a right to keep what they make.
We can't steal it from them.

they are stealing from all of us DAILY mate.

take beef for example, ground beef used to be $2/lb. then the rich decided they should invest in that commodity and now it is $4/lb. Primarily so they can continue to profit OFF ALL OF US>

imagine an apple orchard, there is harvest time then after that, the apples are few. Now, that guy that used to fill his basket from the tree is now going around and taking the apples from everyone else because the tree is bare. There has to be a time when everyone gets an apple or two between harvests. Instead of the guy that always got more being able to filch off everyone elses meager amounts.

People have right to make money? where is that written?

When you profit at the expense of others, that is exploiting.

It is the same as the large hogs at the trough crowding all the smaller hogs out, starving them. Unless the farmer steps in and pushes them away they will continue starving everyone else. Then you have a few fat hogs and the rest dead.

HanzHenry
People have right to make money? where is that written?

Oh come on. Let's be real ....
If people work and don't get a reward for it (money), then they are slaves to whoever benefits.
No pay for work = slavery to the state.

SaturnFX
Who decides what qualifies as "the rich" though?
To someone in central Africa, anyone in the west is rich, even our homeless.
To the average joe in China, again..everyone in the west (not just the US, but all the nato areas) are rich parasites.


I guess you can simply take on the joker philosophy -I don't trust anyone who makes more than me-

apples and oranges. compare the african rich to the african poor, compare the chinese rich to the chinese poor.

the economies are different, the cost of living different, you are using misdirection and misinformation.

FlyersFan

HanzHenry
People have right to make money? where is that written?

Oh come on. Let's be real ....
If people work and don't get a reward for it (money), then they are slaves to whoever benefits.
No pay for work = slavery to the state.

Right, i knew you would come around

we are all slaves to the rich! my whole point. This is exactly what i was getting at!

picture yourself as the rich guy in town, you own both factories, you own the grocery store, the car dealership, the real estate company, the apartments, etc.

it does not matter what you pay the factory workers as you just adjust the prices of everything they buy so at the end of the month, you have all that money back.

I am being very real. The ELites have gamed the system, bribed or blackmailed everyone down the line. They have skirted rules and laws to get where they are. If something is not done the stop their greed they will control us completely LIKE SLAVES.

EXACTLY LIKE SLAVES until we are ACTUAL SLAVES. i do not care what rules/laws they bribe politicians into making.

If the end result is slavery, are you gonna 'ho-hum oh well, thats the rules' all the way to complete servitude?

FlyersFan
People have a right to make money.
People have a right to keep what they make.
We can't steal it from them.
While I wish they'd voluntarily share more of their wealth for the good of the planet
... I don't know how to spark them into doing so.

But simply taking it from them is the wrong answer.
Those that did so, and those that 'took care' of the wealth, would just be corrupted.

Your absolutely right. We cant blame others than ourself for what happens in our life ..but we can take control!

What would happen if we instead of demanding all their money from them, gave them all our money??
Clue: money has NO value, if nobody wants them

Also try to figure this one out: what's the difference between a hooker using her body to earn money to a pimp, for a very low pay and a worker using his body to earn money to a "pimp" for a very low pay..??

You cant blame the rich, but you can decide wether if you want to sell yourself for money or not... Its really our own choise

Peace

reply to post by NoFearsEqualsFreeMan


Thank you. I think you share some of the same views as I do. Its time we stop letting the rich dictate what humanity is. Lets take back our planet.

reply to post by HanzHenry


Well rise up, Hanz.

Fight the power! Go kill a rich guy and take his money!

Then you'll be rich and some poor schlub can go after you. . .

rinse, repeat. . . . .

The "rich" are products of the system in which they thrive, not the other way around. It's as simple as stop paying for it, stop funding them, stop demanding their supply, stop willingly taking the money out of your wallet and putting it in theirs. They are not rich because they steal, but because you simply hand it over.

Cabin
reply to post by HanzHenry

 

Socialism for the needs, capitalism for the wants. That is the only possible solution to the problem. Basic foods and utilities, education, energy, medicine as public non-profit services. Every dime of the profit goes back to the budget....no businessman or CEO should earn millions a year off such basic needs.

right, profiting off of misery is beyond despicable.

Knowing that some rich scum are rich primarily by keeping food from the mouth of the hungry, keeping medicines/cures from the sick/dying, etc. That to me is the worst form of evil.

Somebody wants to profit off of owning an amusement park, movie theater, speed boats, guitars, etc. is fine. those things are entertainment and acceptable.

And, the rich take an ever larger share of the wealth, and pay an ever smaller share of it in taxes via shelters, offshore accounts, loopholes, etc. This creates deficits which the non rich pay for as a result.

How can any sane person think it is OK to profit off the misery of others?

beezzer
reply to post by HanzHenry

 

Well rise up, Hanz.

Fight the power! Go kill a rich guy and take his money!

Then you'll be rich and some poor schlub can go after you. . .

rinse, repeat. . . . .

I don't think that you are understanding the point here. There is no need for violence. Once the people stand up and shout that we know there is wrong doing going on, and refuse to allow it, things will change without violence.

For one person alone, the fight is suicide.
For 7 Billion, its won as its started.