Objects found in Malaysia Airlines search

skelly1178
It's good to see that I'm not the only person on ATS that thinks this debris was more than likely planted.
I still maintane that this plane never crashed. Was never hijacked. I am still having a hard time believing it even existed at all.

But, I suppose time will tell......

Whaa? Why on Earth would they make up something like this? There would be a million easier things to stage and maintain media focus. Why something that multiple nations would search for? 239 families..

Its just absurd.
This plane existed. It was hijacked, likely with the help of one or both pilots, and it has either crashed or landed, but likely crashed.

reply to post by Zaphod58


I understand it's under the cockpit. What I'm trying to establish is just how closely the cargo comes to the electronics bay. Meaning is there just a simple wall between the electronics and the forward most cargo bay.

It would seem that the batteries would need to be very close to the electronics and not in the back end of the plane.

reply to post by Abavs


Nothing will cover up the Ukraine and Crimea. Sure a week or two, maybe. This is the real world though.

Now, the media and politicians might intentionally bump a story and hold it at the top to hide another main event. Thats all they have to do though. No need to create an event when you already control what the people see.

reply to post by Gemwolf


Agreed!!

I'll admit....at the beginning of this story, I thought, "Bermuda Triangle".

Later, after talking with my father (retired Air Force and retired employee at Beech Aircraft), I switched theories and took his angle, which was HIJACKED.

With the late breaking news of the floating debris, I truly believe it is BOGUS.

Like you, I'd much rather the passengers holed up in a hangar, awaiting ransom. At least there is a chance...

reply to post by OatDelphi


The batteries were packed in cargo. They could be anywhere in the forward portion of the hold and burn through into the bay.

The sun's just come up like half hour ago here in Perth, so hopefully we start getting some info really soon on the objects.. I also hope they have better weather out there today because we are forecast for a storm so id say it wouldnt be in that search zone anymore? Hope not anyway.

I kind of have to laugh at people who think that it didn't happen, so where did all them people go? Wait let me guess, the family members are actors too right.. It an insult to the people that more than likely have lost their lives. I'd want to be remembered, not having people not recognise and say it never happened. Thats awful..

Zaphod58
reply to post by BurningSpearess

 

There were lithium batteries in the cargo.

Thanks.

Do you have a source for the cargo on that flight?

I've tried researching & it turns out research is what I'm doing when I don't know what I'm doing...

reply to post by Trubeeleever


Hmmmm...

You could definitely be on to something there.

It was kind of strange how the Malaysian and Chinese governments were both hesitant to share information with the United States.

reply to post by BurningSpearess


Originally that was released without the manifest by Malaysian officials. I am not sure if they have ever fully released the list though.

magickjunkie
So what we can conclude from this is..... IF its the plane. I mean I saw a pic in the paper just now at the shops as I was done thinking about it. But I can surmize that...



...A plane can fly right past the Australian Military base in Darwin - Pine Gap isnt too far from here


Anyone feeling me ?

edit on 03pm5052014-03-20T17:05:01-05:00k20u3k by magickjunkie because: ok.

No I am not feeling you,why would the military worry about a aircraft thousands of Kms from the coast they didn't know that plane was missing, why did they search that area in the first place because our radar is very good best in the world if you didn't know.
Why did it take so long to search that area, it's called security , that's if it is really wreckage from flight mh370 still begs the question why they searched the area in the first place long way away from where it went missing someone knows more about this then you or me and most likely from day dot

reply to post by bellagirl


I stated this previously but only had one reply......., the actual crash was where the plane vanished off the radar. Quit listening to the "sources say" BS. Oil slick, Vietnam air force visually ID'd a tail section and interior door. Oil rig worker saw a burning plane at high altitude burning into a descent into the ocean.

Here is the kicker, the Chinese satellite saw three objects in the area where the above were found. They waited three days for this to come out. The size of the biggest object was 24 meters. lol sound familiar. Same size as what is spotted in Indian Ocean now. They were given time by the Chinese for a pretty penny I am sure to retrieve the rest of the missed debris and then start a story that the plane changed course to get people away from the crime scene so they could clean up. Then plant the evidence far away from the scene in the Indian Ocean when the time is right.

Also, the press release the day before the plane went missing for the LAWS laser weapon by the Dept of Defense tells me that they were flaunting it and knew good and well that people would think no way government posts that then uses it the next day. Psychology of the mind....

I have a good feeling the engines are at the bottom of the South China sea and will be retrieved once this dies down and eyes go away. I wish I had a sub with sonar in the area...........

This is the only plausible explanation, but people dismiss it when you bring up laser. Rethink911.org

reply to post by InBetweentheLines14


Haha you almost had me interested for a moment and then with the last line of your post you out yourself as a 9/11 conspiracy nut. Shame.

Still a better theory than "the plane never existed" which is just ridiculous. Seems like no disaster can happen nowadays without lunatics springing out if the woodwork saying "it didn't happen!" Boston Marathon? Actors! Sandy Hook? Actors? Missing plane? Actors! It's very disrespectful and also totally unhelpful in a thread trying to work out what actually DID happen.


Anyway just to throw a bit of possibly useful info out there:

Phil Mercer, BBC News, Sydney
has been speaking to experts in Australia. He says: "Academics say the relatively large size of the unidentified objects spotted by satellite - about 24m in length - suggests that if the fragments are part of the missing jet, the aircraft was largely intact when it hit the water. Oceanographers here in Western Australia believe that if the debris is from the Malaysia airlines flight it probably crashed about 300 to 400 kilometres to the west due to prevailing currents."

From the BBC.

so...18 pages on....i presume the "wreckage" was nothing?

Onboard fire would raise an SOS call.

reply to post by bigfatfurrytexan

NOAA

The search was suspended due to poor whether...a front going thru now.
CNN reporting suspension due to whether...a few ships are looking.

OatDelphi
reply to post by Zaphod58

 

I understand it's under the cockpit. What I'm trying to establish is just how closely the cargo comes to the electronics bay. Meaning is there just a simple wall between the electronics and the forward most cargo bay.

It would seem that the batteries would need to be very close to the electronics and not in the back end of the plane.

T7 e bay showing aft access door to cargo hold

Something else interesting in the scheme of when they know versus when you know ...

Check out this historical tracking of the Hoegh St Petersburg, an auto freighter under way from Madagascar to Australia. Quite the turn to starboard a few days ago ...

map

reply to post by titian


I found this while exploring tomnod. Not sure if it whales jumping into the air, or bits of plane:

www.tomnod.com/nod/challenge/mh370_indian_ocean/map/85428

reply to post by titian

reply to post by DistantThunder


Not necessarily. Radio calls are the last thing the crew will worry about. Especially if it was a cockpit fire.