Beijing-bound MAS plane carrying 239 people missing as of 20 mins ago.

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getting back to the cell phones.. I don't know how it works in other countries , but in the usa, if you have ATT, you can sign up for the family map, and track 2 phones, but, you have to sign up and be activated before you lose the phone......anyone on the plane with one of these could have been tracked.

Verizon has a similar program.

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I assume they're not getting any cell phone signals?

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I assume they're not getting any cell phone signals?

None reported (at least publicly)

rockflier

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I assume they're not getting any cell phone signals?

None reported (at least publicly)

I agree with you. I think there's a great deal they're not telling us. It's interesting how long it took them to admit the plane changed course and by how much. Clearly it was not on a direct path back to KL.

puntito
Ok lets fit latest data in my outrageous conspiracy theory.

Iranians bought ticket. In order to not sound suspicious they asked for the chapest tickets.
The found out they were not on same plane or plane was not big enough for their purpose,
so they just waited and bought another ticket.
These tickets fit their goal becasue the airplane fit their size and they were all on the same plane.
Iranian perpertrators got on board with some undetectable unsuspicious salt NACN
(chemicals) and a little 5 oz botle of HCL
They wait for the plane be on autopilot. (we don't want to crash)
They poored together.
NaCN + H+ --> HCNgas + Na+ Cyanide gas.
Their gas masks protect them from dying and killed the rest.
(we read that phones can still ring, but dead people do not answer)

SNIP

Maybe they needed the electronics geeks to slave for them.
Or maybe they refuel the plane to full (5000 miles action radius)
stack it full of explosives maybe nuclear. (don't hope so, but that is what they will do we know from experience)
Fly somewhere else and detonate or ram. (same thing don't hope so)

Interesting theory.

Just one question.

If they've just gassed everyone with cyanide how will they then get them to be slaves for them?

MR

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Gassing passengers and crew is a very good theory but I would probably think they were gassed fatally and not just incapacitated.

Just saw this from another ATS thread. I don't know if this has been brought up hear so forgive me if I put it out there again.

Malaysian military tracked MH370

IF THIS WERE TRUE...

So the Malaysian military had this information all along and they just wasted everybody's time. Precious time that could have been used to comb the Malacca Straits instead of concentrating everything into the Kota Baru area.

I find this just...very very odd. What else are they not telling the public, especially the families of the passengers and crew?

What the hell are they trying to hide?

Arbitrageur

Daughter2
I don't believe for a second the US and other countries don't have ways to monitor all planes and determine if they crashed or exploded.

The system isn't designed to detect plane crashes....it's designed to detect rocket launches and specifically rockets capable of launching nuclear missiles. How is that done? Well one way is via infrared cameras which "see" "heat" not only from rocket launches but from other heat sources as well, like explosions, jet engine fuel burning, etc.

Another technology is infrasound, which again has the same nuclear missile launch detection intent. Being able to also detect other things like explosions is a side-effect of the technologies involving infrared light and infrasound.

Thanks for pointing that out.

Just A "few" (lolz) pages back in this thread, a poster did provide the data and source that the US agency/organization that handles infrasound has been called in to investigate and evaluate possible explosions.

Just for the record. In case anyone reading has questions about this.

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In fairness, if they did track the plane, it was probably passively as part of standard background airspace monitoring - hence requiring some time and likely computing power to determine whether the track was something entirely normal, or indeed potentially the missing plane.

The fact they're saying the radar data 'suggests' it changed direction probably means their evidence isn't entirely conclusive.

Just spotted this on another site, interesting?..

Quote: Originally Posted by Mahatma Kote Pulau Perak is the western-most part of Malaysia and has various civil and military structures on it including a lighthouse. 2.bp....********.com/-hHMfhQoc1K...00/granite.jpg

Stating that the last location of the plane was last detected near Pulau Perak (Pulau means "island") is approximately 85 NM WNW of Penang Airport.

Apparently it can't be seen from satellite

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Well not necessarily. I think they had been searching the waters to the west since at least yesterday or two days ago...

reply to post by IQPREREQUISITE


I hadn't seen this yet on this thread. I was aware that they later said that the flight turned around, but I agree with you. This is incompetency at best, or sketchiness or cover-up at worst.

The whole situation is very distressing to me, and I cannot fathom what flight passengers' families and friends are going through. :-(

Zaphod, if they lost avionics could they still fly the plane?

Stepping away from the "what might have caused it" and "where is it now" talk for a moment, my mind wanders to what else might have been coordinated with this event. And/or, what has been put into motion since the event occurred?

What other scenarios would allow such a brisk deployment of military hardware to this area of the world? Was something in that area that needed to be stopped? Either from advancing geographically or technologically? Rogue submarine (intentional downing of a random flight in the area to cover military deployment)? Concentrated area of undersea cables, NSA spying, Europe/Asia wanting to decouple from world web, insulate itself. Was this a perfect time to insert something into the area rather than search for something?

Or, is the military delaying any disclosure of debris being found as they tend to something that was already there? i.e. back to the undersea cables, a random event like a plane crash occurs, they know there will be a massive search in the area so they need to extract any assets from the area before others find it? Hardware tapped into the undersea lines?

Cheers!

Res Ipsa

Zaphod58
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What, they dropped to low level to avoid radar and flew to a secret airfield?

How could anyone fly a plane at that low of an altitude? It would require sorcery I imagine.
would any flat surface qualify as a "secret airfield?"

Are you personally invested in the demise of this aircraft or any of the people aboard? Are you just hung up on the difference between fact and probability?

I didn't say, nor imply that this flight and passengers are hiding from us at some Casino in Hanoi. I said stop digging graves until we have facts.

I see that the "sorcery" possibility has not been ruled out. (being sarcastic, doesn't require any "magic" to fly low is what I was saying back on page 20)

I got on the Tomnod map. But I don't believe this is a satellite view. Does anyone know how to put it into satellite mode?? I've tried every button.....confusing.....never mind...I got it....

Terrorism cannot be ruled out : CIA

CIA Director John Brennan said there had been “some claims of responsibility” over the missing jet that had “not been confirmed or corroborated,” and that he could not exclude the possibility of a terror link.

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Zaphod, if they lost avionics could they still fly the plane?

Yes, avionics being out do not render the aircraft non flyable. (answering for him)

MISSING MH370: Terrorism cannot be ruled out : CIA



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WASHINGTON: The head of the US Central Intelligence Agency said Tuesday that terrorism could not be ruled out in the disappearance of a Malaysian airliner.
CIA Director John Brennan said there had been “some claims of responsibility” over the missing jet that had “not been confirmed or corroborated,” and that he could not exclude the possibility of a terror link.

He provided no further details, but his comment was the first reference by a US official to any alleged claim of responsibility over the jet’s fate.

When asked if he could rule out a terrorist link, Brennan said: “No, I wouldn’t rule it out.”

Brennan, the former counter-terrorism adviser to President Barack Obama, said there were many unanswered questions and it was too early to reach any conclusions about the Malaysia Airlines plane that vanished Saturday with 239 people on board after taking from Kuala Lumpur en route to Beijing.

“We are looking at it very carefully,” he said. “Clearly this is still a mystery.”

In a rare public speaking appearance, Brennan gave a speech and answered questions at an event in Washington organized by a think tank, the Council on Foreign Relations.--AFP


Read more: MISSING MH370: Terrorism cannot be ruled out : CIA - Latest - New Straits Times www.nst.com.my...

Had not seen posted yet.

Claims of responsibility?

I just read on skynews that the guys with fake passports were going to try seek Asylum in Europe! If so, maybe some altercation happened in flight as the Plane wasn't heading to Europe... maybe these 2 individuals got nasty and attacked the crew! And maybe they had explosives already stashed on board somewhere (Just in case things didn't go to plan)...

Thats just my Theory of course but I remember a few weeks back where a co-pilot of a plane also wanted to seek Asylum in Switzerland and took over the plane when the 'Pilot' left the cockpit to use the loo.