Beijing-bound MAS plane carrying 239 people missing as of 20 mins ago.

Seadog
A lot of shipping in the malacca straights, I can only see 1 Thai navy ship in the search area using AIS

Link : www.marinetraffic.com...

Wow an awful lot of ships in that area, I guess if its like that most days someone would have spotted something by now??

I suspect the land area they circled on a map is going to be the focus of the search.

UnixFE
Not sure if someone already mentioned this but as this is a very important project (IMHO) I would like to ask every member here to help the TOMNOD project: TOMNOD

It's a crowdsourced attempt to search for the malaysia air flight or what is left over. It's browser based and you just have to look at small patches from current satellite images and tag anything like fuel or debries you see.

Yes , member of ATS started this

abcnews.go.com...

www.abovetopsecret.com...

Interesting story on the co pilot

www.news.com.au... izu68q-1226850965067

Seadog
A lot of shipping in the malacca straights, I can only see 1 Thai navy ship in the search area using AIS

Link : www.marinetraffic.com...

i am rather surprised that any navy ships show up, what navy in their right minds broadcasts their ships positions? too bad we don't have access to a satellite feed, so we could take a look.

jacobe001
reply to post by Arbitrageur

 

72 pages....I hate to ask this because am going to bet it has already been asked.
The pilots failed to report in at 1:21am and dissapeared from radar at 2:40.

That is ~1:19 minutes when they could have been unconscious from depressurization but still on auto pilot? There have been planes that flew across the Us in such instances on ap due to the pilot having a heart attack etc. Or breach.....

Seems like there has to be more going on that just unconscious pilots because of this (see the 11th media statement):

www.malaysiaairlines.com...

All Malaysia Airlines aircraft are equipped with continuous data monitoring system called the Aircraft Communications Addressing and Reporting System (ACARS) which transmits data automatically. Nevertheless, there were no distress calls and no information was relayed.

ACARS should have relayed information even if the pilots were unconscious, but it didn't, according to that, which makes it seem like a loss of power, or else failure of the ACARS or maybe someone turned it off if that's possible.

puntito
Ok lets fit latest data in my outrageous conspiracy theory.

Iranians bought ticket. In order to not sound suspicious they asked for the chapest tickets.
The found out they were not on same plane or plane was not big enough for their purpose,
so they just waited and bought another ticket.
These tickets fit their goal becasue the airplane fit their size and they were all on the same plane.
Iranian perpertrators got on board with some undetectable unsuspicious salt NACN
(chemicals) and a little 5 oz botle of HCL
They wait for the plane be on autopilot. (we don't want to crash)
They poored together.
NaCN + H+ --> HCNgas + Na+ Cyanide gas.
Their gas masks protect them from dying and killed the rest.
(we read that phones can still ring, but dead people do not answer)
They forced the reinforced door to the cockpit.
That doors are not that strong if nobody tries to stop you you go through the wall at the toilet next to the reinforced door
They took over the plane
Turned off the transponder. becasue we read the plane disappeared from the flighttracker
they dived under the radar. plane disappeared from radars and we read the plane was spotted going down quickly
and later it was flying at very low heights)
They turned around. Plane was spotted on mainland Malaysia by fishermen at very low height
They flew northwest, if we interpolate the last seen spot to the radar location mentioned by the military personell
we find they are on route to iran/afganistan or that area. If the plane has fuel to Beijng,
it would arrive on fumes, but it probably arrives. If it had more fuel it would arrive easily.
Climbed back to some cruising altitude.
Flew to Iran. For a radar, you are just a spot on a screen. I think you can identify yourself as a known flightnumber
going to Teheran, nobody will notice.
Landed the plane in iran (speculation)
Maybe they needed the electronics geeks to slave for them.
Or maybe they refuel the plane to full (5000 miles action radius)
stack it full of explosives maybe nuclear. (don't hope so, but that is what they will do we know from experience)
Fly somewhere else and detonate or ram. (same thing don't hope so)

It's not an outrageous conspiracy. I think you are filling in too many unknown details but I agree with your overall theory.

Mine is it was hijacked and then shot down by some military. What ever country shot it down doesn't want to give the terrorist what they want (terror) and doesn't want the backlash from killing civilians. Hence, theyre going to deny the entire situation.

I don't believe for a second the US and other countries don't have ways to monitor all planes and determine if they crashed or exploded.

Daughter2
I don't believe for a second the US and other countries don't have ways to monitor all planes and determine if they crashed or exploded.

If you can have lojacks for cars costing under $1000, then well....... Fill in the points.

Daughter2
I don't believe for a second the US and other countries don't have ways to monitor all planes and determine if they crashed or exploded.

The system isn't designed to detect plane crashes....it's designed to detect rocket launches and specifically rockets capable of launching nuclear missiles. How is that done? Well one way is via infrared cameras which "see" "heat" not only from rocket launches but from other heat sources as well, like explosions, jet engine fuel burning, etc.

Another technology is infrasound, which again has the same nuclear missile launch detection intent. Being able to also detect other things like explosions is a side-effect of the technologies involving infrared light and infrasound.

UnixFE
Not sure if someone already mentioned this but as this is a very important project (IMHO) I would like to ask every member here to help the TOMNOD project: TOMNOD

It's a crowdsourced attempt to search for the malaysia air flight or what is left over. It's browser based and you just have to look at small patches from current satellite images and tag anything like fuel or debries you see.

I've been trying since it was posted this morning bug can't get it to work or I would help,

reply to post by civpop


PROBABLY A BILLION CHINESE BEAT YOU TO IT...

omg I have just figured it out:

the plane is full of Humans infected with the JX346 Virus = Zombies and trying to find a W.H.O. Research Facility.

The plane will not be allowed to land anywhere so the Pilot will ditch it near an Island and if anyone survives, it will be a new series of Lost or Castaway?

I don't understand how they can say it wasn't terrorism when they haven't even found the plane. That smacks of arrogance.

Restricted
I don't understand how they can say it wasn't terrorism when they haven't even found the plane. That smacks of arrogance.

Or they know something they are not telling us.

rockflier

Restricted
I don't understand how they can say it wasn't terrorism when they haven't even found the plane. That smacks of arrogance.

Or they know something they are not telling us.

edit on Tue, 11 Mar 2014 10:35:36 -050020142014-03-11T10:35:36-05:00kfTuesday35America/ChicagoTue, 11 Mar 2014 10:35:36 -0500 by rockflier because: spelling

Yes that's definitely true they won't tell the public everything they know.

jacobe001
reply to post by Arbitrageur

 

72 pages....I hate to ask this because am going to bet it has already been asked.
The pilots failed to report in at 1:21am and dissapeared from radar at 2:40.

That is ~1:19 minutes when they could have been unconscious from depressurization but still on auto pilot? There have been planes that flew across the Us in such instances on ap due to the pilot having a heart attack etc. Or breach.....

If the reports from the military are verified, it would mean the plane was able to maintain a cruising altitude and flew for about 500 km (350 miles) with its transponder and other tracking systems apparently switched off.

Restricted
I don't understand how they can say it wasn't terrorism when they haven't even found the plane. That smacks of arrogance.

I didn't hear them say it wasn't terrorism. What's your source?

What I heard was, they investigated the two guys with fake documents and they didn't seem to fit the profile of terrorists. I didn't hear them rule out all the other passengers as potential terrorists and they didn't completely rule those two out who had stolen passports, they only said it didn't seem likely they were terrorists.

reply to post by Restricted


Maybe all passengers has now been cleared and accounted for, this would mean no hijacking. The US technology detected no explosion, so they rule out a bomb, missile etc. I'm guessing they're leaning to catastrophic event, pilot error, or of course the combo of both...what else is there to assume? Maybe just maybe, that wing tip repair led to it all??

reply to post by Arbitrageur


Drudge

reply to post by Arbitrageur


They said they were looking at 4 possible scenarios

Hijacking
Sabotage
Crew problems
Passenger problems

What they didn't say was technical issues

They're not getting signals from anything on board. That tells me things like the beacon were turned off.