Beijing-bound MAS plane carrying 239 people missing as of 20 mins ago.

They may have their first clues/sightings of where the plane went: (If it was not already posted)

A 'bright light descending at high speed', witnessed by a man in north-west Malaysia may be the first positive clue that the missing Malaysian Airlines jet crashed into the Gulf of Thailand.

Alif Fathi Abdul Hadi, 29, says he saw the light heading towards the South China Sea at 1.45am on Saturday, some four minutes after the last radar contact with the aircraft.

Businessman Mr Alif lives in Kampung Kadok, in the far north west of the Malaysian mainland, close to the southern border of Thailand.

The light he witnessed was several miles north of the flight path the jet ought to have been on.
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Lending credibility to Mr Alif's account is a similar claim by fisherman Azid Ibrahim, 55, who says he saw a bright light streaking overhead at 1.30am on Saturday, about 100 miles south of where Mr Alif had seen the light.

Mr Alif told the New Straits Times that the bright light was like the type that aircraft use when taking off and landing at night.

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Edit: See it was just posted...

reply to post by Gemwolf


We posted the same thing at the same time!
lol

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It probably would end up taking up a lot of HDD space, but just thinking of ways they could go back and double check. Was recalling the carry-on bags the two passport guys appeared to have (though I don't suspect they had anything to do with it).

The crazy turnarounds that are happening just make me want to think back to every little thing.

I'm off to bed for now, though. Hopefully there's something new once I hop back on.

The last update for the night, the guy in the long sleeves was identified by Interpol as Delavar Syed Mohammad Reza born 21 September 1984. That's all they said about him. They commented that neither person had terrorist ties and that this is likely not terrorism related. Interpol is having an ongoing press conference and you can follow updates here:
www.theguardian.com...

@Gemwolf, I saw that story on Twitter over 24 hours ago (not criticizing you for posting, some of the stuff is a pain to find and confirm, plus Twitter can be spotty), so I imagine those stories are being used to help narrow down search areas. I think it would be odd if two people reported similar stories, so there has to be some credibility there.

Wow, so a 19 year old can get away with using a 61 year olds passport !!

Christian Kozel, a 61 year old former masseur from Salzburg says his passport was stolen years ago in Thailand. A Version of his passport was used by 19 year old Iranian Pouria Nour Mohammad Mehrdad to board the missing flight.

What does a version mean? That is was likely just the passport number that was used and the actual presented passport was just a fraudulent one with the stolen passport number? Would the date of birth be the same as stolen passport or different - so many questions.

This source now says Radar detected the plane near Malacca Strait?

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More information

Malaysian authorities have previously said flight MH370 disappeared about an hour after it took off from Kuala Lumpur for the Chinese capital Beijing.

It changed course after Kota Bharu and took a lower altitude. It made it into the Malacca Strait,” the military official, who has been briefed on investigations, told Reuters.

Earlier on Tuesday, Malaysia’s Berita Harian newspaper quoted air force chief Rodzali Daud as saying the Malaysia Airlines plane was last detected by military radar at 2:40 a.m. on Saturday, near the island of Pulau Perak at the northern end of the Strait of Malacca. It was flying at a height of about 9,000 metres (29,500 ft), he was quoted as saying

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No problem pal...
Wasn't the first time I shared the link, but people seemed to glaze over it I guess!

I guess that's forgivable on such a fast moving thread!


Peace!

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I doubt if the ''electronic geeks'' conspired in 'disappearing' that flight, though I do think it suspicious that 24 renowned Chinese Calligraphy artists, including the VP of the China Calligrapher Association in addition to eight Chinese and 12 Malaysian employees of Austin, Texas, semiconductor company Freescale, were on board. Could be coincidence but who knows, that flight could have been hijacked and the 'value' passengers kidnapped.

The found parts are now believed to be from another aircraft.

I posted about the phones a few pages back. The flight was a business flight for many and the chances are that the tech guys at least having high spec phones with trackable signals, things like the iphone security tracker that always knows where the device is located, GPS etc, there has to be much more information obtained on this area of clues that are yet to be released to the public.

news.asiaone.com...

SEPANG - The Department of Civil Aviation (DCA) has denied that the debris found near Vietnam's Tho Chu Island was from of the missing Malaysia Airlines MH370 airplane.

DCA director-general Datuk Azharuddin Abdul Rahman said authorities have confirmed that the objects spotted floating in the sea about 100km south-southwest off the island did not match the body of the missing aircraft.

Im thinking its more and more plausible that this plane was taken somewhere else especially after reading this article which says the military saw the plane on radar at 2:40 a.m. Which was an hour after it had originally lost signal from air traffic controls and that it was flying at cruising altitude and this

If the reports from the military are verified, it would mean the plane was able to maintain a cruising altitude and flew for about 500 km (350 miles) with its transponder and other tracking systems apparently switched off.

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What other reason would it have to fly with the transponder off if it wasn't trying to be undetected? This paired with the fact that no debris was found yet and the phones still ringing. If it was hijacked who is to say it was the Iranians with the fake passports? Obviously they would be the easiest target to blame but in reality anyone on that flight could have potentially had ulterior motives. Thats just my opinion.

Not being a terrorist I can't be sure of the mindset but wouldn't using a nuke on a plane be a waste. Wouldn't using it on a land based target get more bang for buck.

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"They are looking in the wrong place" was posted by an ATS member somewhere in this thread and they now proven right.
They said in the middle of south China sea was the last radar fix.
The source above says their last fix was in gulf of Thailand at Malacca peninsula.
Why did they miss by hundreds of miles almost 90 degrees off?

ML8715
Im thinking its more and more plausible that this plane was taken somewhere else especially after reading this article which says the military saw the plane on radar at 2:40 a.m. Which was an hour after it had originally lost signal from air traffic controls and that it was flying at cruising altitude and this

If the reports from the military are verified, it would mean the plane was able to maintain a cruising altitude and flew for about 500 km (350 miles) with its transponder and other tracking systems apparently switched off.

source

What other reason would it have to fly with the transponder off if it wasn't trying to be undetected? This paired with the fact that no debris was found yet and the phones still ringing. If it was hijacked who is to say it was the Iranians with the fake passports? Obviously they would be the easiest target to blame but in reality anyone on that flight could have potentially had ulterior motives. Thats just my opinion.

This story is beginning to blow my mind.

CNN reporters are so goofy.

"Why isn't everything on the plane designed to work when it's on water."

Answer: It's an airplane, not a boat.

I keep thinking back to a conversation last year about artists, I was asked by some wannabe artists (of Mediterranean origin and another of Iranian origin both linked to mafioso / Islamic terrorist organisations) which country has the best artists.

My answer was that it wasn't possible to say though China produces a lot of artists capable of doing high quality fakes fast, basically being able to copy styles of renowned historical artists, which takes considerable paint skills. I also mentioned that I like, and do some Chinese style calligraphy art myself (although not Chinese).

They were annoyed at my answer as I didn't say the places they identify to ethnically.

I am not implying that these guys orchestrated the disappearing of that flight but it throws light on the possibilities of terrorist groups that might see such groups as an opportunist target, given the chance, for such activities as making art fakes or plagiarist artworks.

I know it sounds a bit far out but stranger things have happened.

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An air blast would have a greater radius. If your thinking of a dirty bomb then altitude will help to distribute fallout over a wider area than ground detonation

Apparently theres a website with the satellite images that you can look at to see if you see anything? Its not loading for me but could be because im on a tablet. If anyone else wants to try here it is

Link came from here

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Could the bright light be that of an intercept or chase aircraft escorting the airliner.
Throwing a wild stab in the dark but could the light also have been a UFO , trying to identify an aircraft at 30,000 ft is hard but at night you can barely see the lights

da pickles
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An air blast would have a greater radius. If your thinking of a dirty bomb then altitude will help to distribute fallout over a wider area than ground detonation

In this speculated case, it was over the ocean. Over land would seem accomplish more.

Granite
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"They are looking in the wrong place" was posted by an ATS member somewhere in this thread and they now proven right.
They said in the middle of south China sea was the last radar fix.
The source above says their last fix was in gulf of Thailand at Malacca peninsula.
Why did they miss by hundreds of miles almost 90 degrees off?

So instead of a heading of North to North East the plane headed North to North West..?

www.thestar.com.my...


Very VERY Odd now.....

Sounds like a hijack....

TheWednesday
www.thestar.com.my...


Very VERY Odd now.....

Sounds like a hijack....

They were reports from several people of lights nearer the north coast. If it did turn, maybe it got back closer Malaysia than thought.