Beijing-bound MAS plane carrying 239 people missing as of 20 mins ago.

Over 200 pages and the only thing we know for sure is that the flight didn't arrive in Beijing.

I guess "We don't know what the f**k happened. No clue. We are winging it here." is not the sort of press conference that builds confidence.

The search area gets bigger and the theories get wilder.

Leonidas
Over 200 pages and the only thing we know for sure is that the flight didn't arrive in Beijing.

The search area gets bigger and the theories get wilder.

And it appears the new joiners into the forum are becoming more belligerent, critical, and demeaning.

Arbitrageur
reply to post by TheBlackpoolOne

 

Thanks for the link to that story. So it was a Uighur man on the plane, who happened to have the same name as the professor, but not the professor, and we don't know who it was? Suddenly it gets more interesting.

The story doesn't say anything about the Uighur man who was actually on the plane.

This article mentions a Uighur man named Memetjan Abra as being on flight MH370. He is passenger #84 from this manifest.


ww2.sinaimg.cn...

The group of artists includes Meng Gaosheng , deputy chairman of the China Calligraphers' Association, and Memetjan Abra, a Uygur painter from Xinjiang. "Abra was the first Uygur artist we have represented in this kind of exhibition, and we had to prepare halal food for him," Liao said. "He was also one of the youngest artists in the group," he added. "He was quiet and friendly and gave us one of his works as a gift."

www.scmp.com...

reply to post by sy.gunson

Thanks for the thoughts & insights sy.gunson
You apparently have some working knowledge of the aircraft, etc…

With regard to the first part of your proposal…of the aircraft ‘taking-off’ with a faulty generator…giving erratic voltage/s…and the pilot/s possessing an option to run it in parallel with another generator…
Questions:
Is it, or is it not likely, that a pilot would comment on said “issue” to the tower as soon as the problem was noticed/identified?
Would this “fault” be recorded/logged in any of the pre-flight, taxiing, take-off & climb data transmissions?
(I see you’ve addressed, at least, part of this, being – you believe the Malaysian gov’t &/or airline are keeping a hand behind the back… So… Maybe we do have a conspiracy

)

With regard to more of your proposal… overloaded/failed diode results in an explosion that ruptures the pressure hull…which apparently results in an electrical explosion that disables the ‘aircraft systems’…and “somehow” the fully digital throttles acquire a/the command to develop full thrust…to ‘dead man’s corner’…and stall…then fall to a lower altitude pointing west…and resume in auto-pilot, but, fly erratically for another 5 hours…
Seems a lot of moving parts have to synchronize for this to pan out. So - if you can help my ignorance with answers to some uneducated questions, it will be appreciated...
For this (sequence of events) to work – would the pilots have needed to place navigation into “Auto-Pilot”…or, does the plane “know” to do this, at some point?
Likewise – if on “Auto-Pilot” – would the plane be following a pre-programmed flight path, or simply developing its own (flight path)?
Furthermore – what are the odds that you have
one electrical-system explosion (causing depressurization &, I presume, loss of pilot-consciousness – or, at least, pilot control),
followed by a virtually-simultaneous electrical-system explosion…
that sends a surge disabling “the aircraft systems”, and
…immediately goes into a ‘climb’ – stalls – plunges – revives…and
starts flying again ‘without’ whichever “aircraft systems” it formerly…needed (or - were they...?) to...fly?

Thanks for the help.

Krakatoa
Has anyone yet CONFIRMED the pilots were the actual men that we supposed to be there?

SPECULATION
- The scheduled pilots are kidnapped and replaced by other trained pilots with forged credentials for the scheduled pilots.
- The plan is to fly the plane, avoiding radar and radio detection west to Somalia.
- The Somali pirates either:
A: dismantle the plane and "part it out" on the black market
B: sell it to the highest bidder (Al Qaeda?)
C: ransom it off along with the passengers (unless they were killed by a sudden cabin depressurization on purpose).

I see all the pundits pointing to to a north/south flight path, and nobody looking west across the open ocean. Could Somalia be the destination here given the newly released extended range and confirmation of an additional 7 hr running of the engines.

Here's video footage of the two pilots going through security at the airport prior to flying...

Has anyone entertained the possibility that the hijackers were trained 777 (or similar) pilots?

Splodge
reply to post by Vasa Croe

 

Given the number of terrorist groups in the region, terrorism is a very plausible scenario and probably only a matter of time. If this is the case, it is certainly being heavily exploited by an opportunistic US and Co. to get their tentacles deeper into the region to secure it for western interests. As long as they don't trot out the "women and children are being eaten" type lines (hearts and minds), I'm AOK with that. It is needed but it could be that they're going about it in a very #ty way as per.

Why US and Co. ?

Vasa Croe

JRCrowley

Vasa Croe
We will see this plane again in a major attack....just a feeling I have.

More false flag fear-mongering.

I mean come on, are you Dick Cheney? lol

Sorry but do you just wait for me to post to post something? Seems you, like another poster, have some bone to pick and are all about downplaying the role of extremists and terrorists in this type of situation.

I would really like to hear your theory on this situation in particular. I have put mine out there numerous times.

I feel this plane was hijacked by entities with Iranian ties. The plane was depressurized killing all passengers quickly. It was landed and is being fitted with a bomb. The avionics team is switching codes and it will fly under radar to a location that is heavily scrutinized and detonated.

My theory on location may have changed but the logic behind it is sound and can be done.

A simple comment about fear mongering and relating it to a complete FAIL of a politician does nothing for discarding the theory.

No, I don't "just wait for you to post to post something" but I do feel compelled to reply to certain posts more than others - just like every other person on ATS.

I've put my theory out there countless times. I'll to it again. This was a plane crash over the ocean and they can't find the wreckage yet. Yes, I am aware - as is the rest of the world - that there are bizarre technical and situational anomalies surrounding this accident, but I still contend that there will be a mundane, albeit very sad, end to all of this sooner or later.

Interesting how you like to keep beating the drum about "the role of extremists and terrorists". If you're still confused about why I gravitate towards responding to posts like yours it's because I have a disdain for bs, and that quote pretty much encompasses it. Using those terms constantly places you right in the category of government shill.

I highly doubt the good folks here on ATS are so asleep and still under the bizarre impression that the terms "extremist" and "terrorist" only refer to muslims living in caves and planning assaults on amurica. But it seems you're doing your best to push that agenda.

And I do find it interesting that your avatar is a photo of an owl. What's the Illuminati message there I wonder? lol

I don't downplay the role of extremism. I just know where most of it is coming from in this world, and it isn't scary moozlems living in caves.

UKGuy1805
reply to post by Mikeultra

 

But if a VIP would they not fly in cogneto and under a made up name or something?

That could be. I think that this incident is to drive the idea that current passports are outdated, and they want the eye scanners, palm print readers, and micro chips in everybody. I saw a Youtube video about this idea and posted it back a few pages. It makes sense, they are installing some of these new machines at some airports in the U.S. (Chicago).

Vasa Croe

Splodge
reply to post by Vasa Croe

 

Given the number of terrorist groups in the region, terrorism is a very plausible scenario and probably only a matter of time. If this is the case, it is certainly being heavily exploited by an opportunistic US and Co. to get their tentacles deeper into the region to secure it for western interests. As long as they don't trot out the "women and children are being eaten" type lines (hearts and minds), I'm AOK with that. It is needed but it could be that they're going about it in a very #ty way as per.

Why US and Co. ?

“You never want a serious crisis to go to waste; it’s an opportunity to do things that you think you could not do before."



Owl Man, I'm disappointed in you.

Vasa Croe

Why US and Co. ?

I knew I should have changed that. Yes, i learned the other day that 'company' is a euphemism for the FBI (?) and rest assured, although they may be up to their little green gills in it, I meant 'Co' as in allies.

reply to post by JRCrowley


Exactly what I was saying. Thank you for posting.

Splodge

Vasa Croe

Why US and Co. ?

I knew I should have changed that. Yes, i learned the other day that 'company' is a euphemism for the FBI (?) and rest assured, although they may be up to their little green gills in it, I meant 'Co' as in allies.

Knowing Vasa Croe, his point in the question is that he feels the U.S. is god-like and pure and would never exploit any situation like this. Just a guess, but if you read his/her posts you will soon learn that Vasa Croe has an agenda.

rockflier

Leonidas
Over 200 pages and the only thing we know for sure is that the flight didn't arrive in Beijing.

The search area gets bigger and the theories get wilder.

And it appears the new joiners into the forum are becoming more belligerent, critical, and demeaning.

Couldn't agree more.

Splodge
reply to post by JRCrowley

 

Exactly what I was saying. Thank you for posting.

Excellent. Thank you for that. I was starting to feel alone in a sea of obviousness for a while there... (no pun intended).

I'd like to believe the people here on ATS are truly informed and will stay on the vanguard of truth...

Okay, I admit that there may be some pages I've missed in trying to keep up so maybe this question has been answered but I didn't see it mentioned. If the plane has indeed been "stolen" to be used as a weapon of some sort, won't the transmitters that sent the data after the transponder was turned off---the data that showed that it continued to fly for several hours---won't those transmitters begin transmitting again if the engines are turned back on? Or would it be possible to disable those once the plane was on the ground?

I agree that its a shame that so mutch doom porn has to be broadcast, but in an age where the truth about just about everything, is not given and we seem to be in a world where we are told what we are allowed to hear, when will the msm start to stand up and say enough is enough and say it as it is, and how it happened, not just this but everything, i am sure people in general would rather be told the pure truth about stuff rather than other things....

I forget who asked for this, it was pages and pages ago, but I found it again.

It is an infographic on flights that have "disappeared" since WW2.

www.bloomberg.com... ng-planes-mapped-since-1948.html

This may not be significant, but the FIA has asked for their own people to do a recertification of all people who will be in direct contact with their cargo upon arrival at Kuala Lumpur prior to the Malaysian Grand Prix later this month.

reply to post by Leonidas

In that case we shouldn't give up hope since the plane that was lost in 1985 was found 21 years later in 2006. I'm hoping it takes less than 21 years to figure out what happened to MH370.