Beijing-bound MAS plane carrying 239 people missing as of 20 mins ago.

Either plane failure or hijack failure happened and the plane is in the ocean or it was some super plan that worked. How could the plane flown over so much land, like India, and no be seen as an unknown on radar. Or by shipping reporting a low flying very large pane. Or another aircraft.

The super plan I think is a long shot.

By the way, has anyone found out if the cell carriers ever really explained the phone ring situation? Silence tend to mean cover up, at least to me.

The more this story drags out with all of its mysteries the more I can't help but think of the Roswell incident.

I really don't believe any piece of data thrown our way. None of it really makes sense and it all seems like dis-info designed to throw us waaaaaaaaay off course from the truth.

Aliens

CIA

Cover up.


At this point, it just seems like the only logical solution when you have so many countries planes and ships looking in the wrong areas - because there are no right areas to look.

DrHammondStoat

SprocketUK
reply to post by option158

 

I wouldn't even attempt it. but, you know, if someone really wanted someone on that plane and the ability to deny it...

If someone wanted something on the plane, why not just steal it before it got on the plane?

A robbery on the ground would be a lot easier and cheaper that training people to hijack a plane and having to subdue 200+ people and having the whole world out looking.

If it was someone on board that was the target, the same logic applies.

This is superb.

The more that comes out on this, the more confusing it is. ATS has had some awesome thoughts, and all of you have had excellent hypotheses. But, in the end, we still know squat. Frustration abounds. I can only imagine how frustrated the relatives of the pax are.

What if... The plane landed somewhere and the proposed precious cargo was moved onto a shipping container and the plane dumped or hidden or refueled and flown some where else. Lots of shipping lanes in the Indian Ocean area.




leolady

leolady


What if... The plane landed somewhere and the proposed precious cargo was moved onto a shipping container and the plane dumped or hidden or refueled and flown some where else. Lots of shipping lanes in the Indian Ocean area.

leolady

The where is the $64,000.00 question.

Wow...read through the last 15 pages to review the latest thoughts and info. Great going guys...you still haven't given up.

If the Malaysian PMs report is true, then we have roughly two directions on where MH370 could've gone to, since the sat pings aren't meant as location sources but rather as an indication of function, a hello of some sorts to put it simply. One is the path to Kazakshtan and the other one to the Indian Ocean.

I'm thinking since it's highly improbable that the plane made 7 hours into the northwest territories without being detected in any way (military radar, civilian radar, visual contact, etc.) it's a safe bet it took the southwest route coz as I see in some of the pics posted here, it's open ocean there.

Restricted
I think this proves at least one thing. Our intelligence assets aren't as great as we've been led to believe. They might be able to image a pimple on someone's butt but they can't find a plane.

Excellent insight. The NSA wants the right to record every Americans' actions every second of every day. They want to track what you do on your computer, your phone and in you car. They want to know what you buy, what you watch on television, who you associate with, where you go and when. They build a massive data center in Utah on the taxpayers dime - $1.5 billion - forcing Americans to pay for their own imprisonment. The facility is filled to the brim with Cray XC30 Supercomputers. They're amassing zettabytes, yottabytes, exabytes and possibly yottabytes of data. No one knows for sure yet. There might come a day when they can tell every American how many times they farted on any given day throughout their life, and even the stench level of each one.

But they can't find a lost airplane.

As I stated, excellent insight, and something that I haven't seen discussed very much which is very strange particularly for a site like ATS.

I have found links to a passenger manifest from CCTV. I don't know why the passengers are listed in a different order than the other manifest. I will point out that on the 1st page link, #5 is Nikolai Brodskii - Russian, #13 is Oleg Chustrak - Ukrainian, #14 is Sergeii Deineka - Ukrainian. Passenger #84 name is pixelated -Chinese. Passengers #85-227 - Chinese with Chinese text. Page 6 is 12 Malaysian crew.

ww3.sinaimg.cn...

ww2.sinaimg.cn...

ww4.sinaimg.cn...

ww3.sinaimg.cn...

ww3.sinaimg.cn...

ww2.sinaimg.cn...

Here is the other passenger manifest.

www.malaysiaairlines.com...

Hmmmmmmm

Monte-Carlo
That is absolutely insane if the plane was hijacked and flown to an other country !

Pulling this off with success in this day and age is more than mind-boggling.

Furthermore, taking care of the 240 hostages is no easy task....

8 of the 12 crew members were men, an unusual occurrence by itself.

But the cabin oxygen is the key to controlling the passengers, either by putting another gas besides 02 in the masks, or by overriding the system so that they suffocate.

At 45,000 feet you have about 10 seconds before things start going black.

But I still think the masks would be easier.

If you were dozing in a darkened airplane and those masks dropped, you'd put it on so fast you wouldn't even think about it.

On CNN, Mary Schiavo said that if that the Malaysian authorities actually believe what they are saying this time (a large hijacking on a Malaysian carrier), then the airline should be shut down immediately. Multiple hijackers had to be in place--5 or 6--and they went into the belly of the plane (passenger section); they had weapons and needed to secure the passengers.
She also said that if the data is right about the see-sawing altitudes (and she thinks it is erroneous), then whoever was flying the jet was doing it poorly and would have had major trouble trying to land (especially at night).

So this hijacking was planned for a long, long time...yet look at the number of planes that are still taking off from Malaysia.
Prolly is the safest time to fly out of there...but couldn't the ground crew and air traffic controllers be involved?

drwill

DrHammondStoat

SprocketUK
reply to post by option158

 

I wouldn't even attempt it. but, you know, if someone really wanted someone on that plane and the ability to deny it...

If someone wanted something on the plane, why not just steal it before it got on the plane?

A robbery on the ground would be a lot easier and cheaper that training people to hijack a plane and having to subdue 200+ people and having the whole world out looking.

If it was someone on board that was the target, the same logic applies.

This is superb.

Thanks DrWill

Has there been any follow up or more information on why passenger 84's name is blocked out?

Mikeultra
I have found links to a passenger manifest from CCTV. I don't know why the passengers are listed in a different order than the other manifest. I will point out that on the 1st page link, #5 is Nikolai Brodskii - Russian, #13 is Oleg Chustrak - Ukrainian, #14 is Sergeii Deineka - Ukrainian. Passenger #84 name is pixelated -Chinese. Passengers #85-227 - Chinese with Chinese text. Page 6 is 12 Malaysian crew.

ww3.sinaimg.cn...

ww2.sinaimg.cn...

ww4.sinaimg.cn...

ww3.sinaimg.cn...

ww3.sinaimg.cn...

ww2.sinaimg.cn...

Here is the other passenger manifest.

www.malaysiaairlines.com...

IQPREREQUISITE
Wow...read through the last 15 pages to review the latest thoughts and info. Great going guys...you still haven't given up.

If the Malaysian PMs report is true, then we have roughly two directions on where MH370 could've gone to, since the sat pings aren't meant as location sources but rather as an indication of function, a hello of some sorts to put it simply. One is the path to Kazakshtan and the other one to the Indian Ocean.

I'm thinking since it's highly improbable that the plane made 7 hours into the northwest territories without being detected in any way (military radar, civilian radar, visual contact, etc.) it's a safe bet it took the southwest route coz as I see in some of the pics posted here, it's open ocean there.

I agree, I think it more likely went South rather than over all the countries to the North, where it would be detected.

I think the fact the Malaysian PM stated they were still looking at all the possibilities and not just Hijacking - indicates they still think one of the pilots could have took the plane South. They will be analysing the Satelite data now to try and determine exactly where.

Here's an interesting article I came across. I haven't combed through all the thread to see if this has been posted yet.
There's lots more in the article:
exopolitics.blogs.com... ar-crimes-tribunal-ve.html

2. Payback for Kuala Lumpur War Crimes Tribunal verdicts against Israel, U.S. & U.K. –
The interview details how the March 8, 2014 U.S. Navy attack against Malaysia Airlines Flight 370 was payback for genocide war crimes verdicts in 2013, 2012, and 2011 against Israel, U.S. and U.K. by the Kuala Lumpur War Crime Tribunal, founded by the former Prime Minister of Malaysia, Tun Dr. Mahathir bin Mohamad. A wide corporate and political network of top decision-makers in Malaysia, including the President of Malaysia Airlines and the Prime Minister of Malaysia, funded the Kuala Lumpur War Crimes Tribunal.

3. Rothschild patent scam - According to Leuren Moret, there may have been other levels of motive connected to twenty employees of Freescale Semiconductor on Flight 370, headed for a conference in Beijing.

Four days after flight MH370 goes missing, a patent is approved. 4 of the 5 Patent holders are Chinese employees of Freescale Semiconductor of Austin TX. The fifth is the company itself. Each patent is divided into 20% increments to the 5 holders -

Peidong Wang, Suzhou, China, (20%)
Zhijun Chen, Suzhou, China, (20%)
Zhihong Cheng, Suzhou, China, (20%)
Li Ying, Suzhou, China, (20%)
Freescale Semiconductor (20%)


If a patent holder dies, the remaining holders equally share the dividends of the deceased so long as it's not disputed in a will. If 4 of the 5 Patent holders die, then the remaining Patent holder gets 100% of the wealth of the patent. That remaining Patent holder is Freescale Semiconductor. Who owns Freescale Semiconductor? Answer - Jacob Rothschild! He owns it through Blackstone who themselves own Freescale. Here's your motive for the missing Beijing plane - all 4 Chinese Patent members were passengers on the missing plane.

Patent holders can alter the proceeds legally by passing wealth to their heirs. However, they can only do that when the Patent is approved. (For me this is just another daft rule. It simply enables evil-minded scum the opportunity to commit skulduggery). So when the plane went missing, the patent had not been approved. As soon as the plane went missing, in other words 'operation successful' the Patent is approved & thank you very much! Mr. Rothschild once again gets the lot - 100% Patent holder, that is once the other 4 Patent holders are declared deceased. What a lovely world we live in! Blatant as you like!

reply to post by drwill


Wouldn't necessarily need weapons or 5-6 people!!!

Just 3 unarmed, top brass from one of the worlds leading Intelligences (CIA, MI5, an Asian equivalent etc) could pull this off quite easy!!!

If 2 of them grab a passenger each, or an air host/hostess each and threaten to break their necks with non compliance that leaves the other to freely give demands to the cockpit!!!

These Intelligence Agents are highly trained killers and could do this without the need for a single weapon or bloodshed!!!


Peace dr!

All this speculation, theories and searching for almost a week now and we still don't have any more hard information than we did in the first hour of the disappearance. Im starting to belive we'll never find the truth.

In regards to this recent news that a signal was received via satellite from the aircraft at 8:11, 7 hours after initial LOS, has anybody heard what type of signal it was?

reply to post by CharlieSpeirs


I hadn't thought about that--thank you!

reply to post by sled735


Those people weren't on the plane, probably made up!

reply to post by pejanene


Isn't he the passenger with Uighur connections?

Here's a link to a photograph of the alleged manifest in blurred.

Manifest in blurred