Beijing-bound MAS plane carrying 239 people missing as of 20 mins ago.

reply to post by DrHammondStoat


it could be used to trigger big event (maybe big war, etc)
a big event like official introduction or revelation of cobra organization in gi joe.

who knows, maybe there is a group like that.
not the one like AQ,
i'm talking about a very organized group with more advanced equipments, trainings, and tactics (funded by a top player) that has many of its agents work as insiders in top military facilities.

okay that was just an imagination appear in mind.
(until what happened to the plane is truly verified with strong evident, i won't believe any word from media.)

peace

reply to post by qmantoo


no, somehow i doubt its lasers. I have a friend who always goes back to the high energy weapon theories (inc 9-11)... i just don't buy them in any situation yet although i would be interested to see if something with no mass could create a seismic reaction.

ManiShuck
Here is the map showing where the last known location would be.

It's looking like a real possibility that it could be an Uyghur based plot, if data is correct. A lot of Chinese were on the plane so it would make sense to take that one. If it took the northern route, though, interesting why China wouldn't have read it on radar (of course it could be speculated that China themselves are the ones who took it).

I am wondering why various navy ships (Us Kidd) and Indian and US planes are searching around the Nicobar and Andaman islands though? Is it just to rule things out? The new flight path you show isn't really covering these places.

The planes looking over these islands use heat seeking equipment, which is interesting.

Indian officials have begun searching hundreds of uninhabited islands in the Andaman Sea using heat-seeking devices in the search for the Malaysia Airlines flight that disappeared six days ago.

Two Indian air force reconnaissance planes began flying over the islands on Friday as a precaution, after they and two naval ships scoured the seas surrounding the Andaman and Nicobar Islands, according to Colonel Harmit Singh of India's tri-services command in the territory.

The archipelago, which stretches south of Burma, contains 572 islands across an area of 52 x 720km. Only 37 are inhabited, with the rest covered in dense forests.

The Indian navy was considering expanding its search west into the Bay of Bengal.

Singh declined to give details about the rest of the search operation, including the use of the heat sensors on the Dornier planes.

Coastguard official VSR Murthy said India would turn its focus toward western waters between the islands and the Indian coast. On Friday, two navy ships were still sailing east of Great Nicobar Island.

www.theguardian.com...

reply to post by DrHammondStoat


i think it won't hurt to re verify if those islands are not really related to mh370 case

they can have extra data/info for future investigation in case if similar events happen in the future

peace

reply to post by DrHammondStoat


It's likely as you said, to rule things out, or they will soon be relocated with the new, confirmed data of last known position.

A user on PPRuNe seems to have a decent thought on how to proceed:

Next steps for tonight/today ...

Now we have the two red arcs.

There are (at least) two further constraints on final location under reasonable assumptions.

For now I think that we can assume that the plane did not stop to refuel in the early hours of 8/3 (but we may reconsider this later).

One is the flying time of less than 6 hours from near Penang to the final resting place (but presumably not much less).

The other is the fuel which would give a similar upper bound.

Thus we just need to draw another circle on the map of radius about 5000km centred on the last radar blip (off Penang).

Then we intersect circles and arcs and should get just one or two possible approximate locations.

www.pprune.org...

If it went south, you have deeper ocean as well as currents and many days passed since it went down. North you have countries that should have military radar data, and between China and India something should come up (unless you go with speculation that China is involved).

There is potential for some breakthrough's coming in the next 48 hours.

If the plane it has been H and to be used as a weapon then it wont
be too long before its used because the longer the delay the
more likely it will found.
The passengers maybe be dead already (45000 feet) or they maybe kept
as a bargaining chip for later should the perpetrators be discovered.
The perpetrators are not in it for money but for glory.
The question is who are they?

1. Ukranian sympathisers - their target - Kremlin? Nuke power plant
2. Chinese militants - passengers more likely to be alive
3. Iranian Gov. backed muslim extremists - Yemen/Somalia/Other

Which one?

Me thiks the US will know where the plane is and that they will be formulating
there plan/response/deflection as we ponder on ATS.

Whatever transpires now, its unlikely we will ever know the whole truth
because of the nature of this event and coinciding events of which there
are numerous!

ManiShuck
reply to post by DrHammondStoat

 

....If it went south, you have deeper ocean as well as currents and many days passed since it went down. North you have countries that should have military radar data, and between China and India something should come up (unless you go with speculation that China is involved).

There is potential for some breakthrough's coming in the next 48 hours.

Personally I still think it could have crashed and wasn't hijacked, it wasn't found because they were looking in the wrong place and then the wreckage sank/ oil slick and debris were moved by currents.

I also remain a little bit sceptical about the satellite pings even thought the Malaysians now say they are sure. I don't know why , I just have a hunch, maybe it's because I don't understand the technology . If the plane came down somewhere in one piece, could the pings still be going even though it had landed?

I think behind the scenes the Malaysians and other nations must be getting closer as you say.

ManiShuck
Here is the map showing where the last known location would be.

It's looking like a real possibility that it could be an Uyghur based plot, if data is correct. A lot of Chinese were on the plane so it would make sense to take that one. If it took the northern route, though, interesting why China wouldn't have read it on radar (of course it could be speculated that China themselves are the ones who took it).

this is confusing to us.. likely because we have no real knowledge about how satellite communication works,
so apologies if these are really dense quieries,
but we are wondering how, if the plane could be detected and tracked by satellite for seven hours, that it could just disappear?
Does that mean it must have landed? If so, how could it have gone on as far as all our various sources say it may have?
Being tracked by a satellite is not something that can just be turned off like a transponder, correct?

We were also under the impression that something being tracked by satellite can be tracked quite closely; phone gps for example can tell the difference between when we are out the front of the back of our house, yet the two possible final locations for MH370 are literally countries apart. How does that work?

reply to post by TheBlackpoolOne


I just hope they knew it was hijacked earlier on and were trying to position themselves bc 8 days is a long time to wait. ..

And they better be damned sure it was a hijacking before throwing that to the news media

reply to post by DrHammondStoat


Yup ratings are the name of the game. ... abd the big media co. Telling mostly same story. ... gotta venture deep into the internet to try to find alternative news..

I'm wondering. . Are there more pings that we don't know about? At first there was only one they wanted to confirm. ..so it did crash or refueled and thus should have more pings on radar ... which means they know where it went.

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With respect, do you really think it is a good idea to post a link to that website? I really don't think they want hardcore conspiracy theorists posting on an already large thread.

Also, is there anyone that knows the answer to this?

Do oxygen masks deploy automatically? And can they choose to only let the mask drop in the cockpit and not the rest?

May have been shared, another 15 pages in the thread since I went to sleep, apologies if it's been said already!!!

Malaysian Authority's now saying that a Hi-Jacking cannot be confirmed...
But the re-direction of the Flight is consistent with a deliberate act!!!

"Based on new satellite communication, we can say with a high degree of certainty that the aircraft communications addressing and reporting system, or ACARS, was disabled just before the aircraft reached the east coast of Peninsula Malaysia," he told a press conference near the capital's International Airport.

Citing Malaysian air force radar data, the prime minister said the missing flight did indeed turn back, then flew westward back over Peninsula Malaysia before turning northwest.

"These movements are consistent with deliberate action by someone on the plane," he said.

Deliberate re-direction of the Plane pretty much the main theory

reply to post by RP2SticksOfDynamite


If it was about glory they would already be making headlines...

Unless you mean they want the glory after some sort of Kamikaze mission, & then they want the headlines!!!


I'd be inclined to say if it's a hi-jacking it's been done for technology by Chinese Intelligence!!!


Peace RP2!

Then again...

If I was to be outlandish I'd say what if it's a hi-jacking for technology done by Japanese Intel!

Something people haven't speculated as far as I know, is that for the last year or so Japan have had China & America on tenter hooks as to who they ally themselves with...
How about Kidnapping Chinese engineers & scientists who work for an American based company as a middle finger to both Countries???

Can anyone say "shift in power"!!!


Peace MH370 xxx

reply to post by RP2SticksOfDynamite

You forgot organizations like the CIA, Mossad, and so on. The false flag angle of most of the above.

Need help posting this graphic.

i86.photobucket.com...

Very interesting stuff.

DrHammondStoat

SprocketUK
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I wouldn't even attempt it. but, you know, if someone really wanted someone on that plane and the ability to deny it...

If someone wanted something on the plane, why not just steal it before it got on the plane?

A robbery on the ground would be a lot easier and cheaper that training people to hijack a plane and having to subdue 200+ people and having the whole world out looking.

If it was someone on board that was the target, the same logic applies.

What if it's 4,6 or more people? Sure it'd be easier, but much harder to cover up.

qd22vcc
Also, is there anyone that knows the answer to this?

Do oxygen masks deploy automatically? And can they choose to only let the mask drop in the cockpit and not the rest?

Yes, the cabin masks automatically drop when, as memory serves, the cabin altitude reaches 10,000 feet. The cockpit masks are affixed near each pilot and have to be manually donned, a very simple procedure. On the 757/767 we could not override the auto mask deployment from the cockpit. The cabin O2 system is oxygen generators, while the cockpit has O2 bottles supplying breathing air.

EDIT: There are also several portable O2 bottles in the cabin for medical use.