Beijing-bound MAS plane carrying 239 people missing as of 20 mins ago.

rockflier
According to the article it climbed to 45,000 feet then dropped to 23,000 feet before climbing again.

Would this drop depressurize the plane?

No

Would the wild fluctuations cause zero gravity moments? Weightlessness like the astronauts experience in space? Just curious….

Edit to add: it was reported that the plane had several ascents and descents, at least the last I heard, might've changed now.

Source: en.wikipedia.org...

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Wonder where they got the info-diss info about climbing to 45K and back down again, surely would meen they would have location information on it to establish that?

drwill
reply to post by Jennyfrenzy

 

Some of Anderson Cooper's guests have done a 180. Yesterday, Barbara was saying "catastrophic event," and now she's saying sabotage. Big change from "the batteries did it."

I think it has more to do with the fact that they just don't know but are afraid to look dumb saying so.

Essentially, it is what wild speculation looks like when you have a studio and a network to broadcast from.

MY speculation is that we wont really know until the plane - or it's remains - is found.

reply to post by Leonidas


Not many people are mentioning Diego Garcia....it was within fuel range and who could honestly say the U.S. govt would never do something like that?

seentoomuch

rockflier
According to the article it climbed to 45,000 feet then dropped to 23,000 feet before climbing again.

Would this drop depressurize the plane?

No

Would the wild fluctuations cause zero gravity moments? Weightlessness like the astronauts experience in space? Just curious….

Edit to add: it was reported that the plane had several ascents and descents, at least the last I heard, might've changed now.

edit on 3/14/2014 by seentoomuch because: (no reason given)

IF that did happen, and IF there was a hijacking underway, it would be one way to throw the would-be hijackers around the cabin in an effort to avoid a take-over. But that is just a guess on my part

Lots of Getty Images and Agence Free Presse photos in this article.
www.dailymail.co.uk...

seentoomuch

rockflier
According to the article it climbed to 45,000 feet then dropped to 23,000 feet before climbing again.

Would this drop depressurize the plane?

No

Would the wild fluctuations cause zero gravity moments? Weightlessness like the astronauts experience in space? Just curious….

Edit to add: it was reported that the plane had several ascents and descents, at least the last I heard, might've changed now.

Source: en.wikipedia.org...

edit on 3/14/2014 by seentoomuch because: (no reason given)

It could cause negative gs if, at the top, a nose push over was done. There is a company called zerog that does it for thrill riders in an old 707.

doubletap
reply to post by Leonidas

 

Not many people are mentioning Diego Garcia....it was within fuel range and who could honestly say the U.S. govt would never do something like that?

A few dozen pages ago there was extensive banter regarding DG

Heres an idea folks - in Flightradar24 you can click on an emblem called live view from the cockpit while in flight, this could be tried but needs a good internet connection mine is just off a dongle, by going back to the day it might work.

Leonidas

seentoomuch

rockflier
According to the article it climbed to 45,000 feet then dropped to 23,000 feet before climbing again.

Would this drop depressurize the plane?

No

Would the wild fluctuations cause zero gravity moments? Weightlessness like the astronauts experience in space? Just curious….

Edit to add: it was reported that the plane had several ascents and descents, at least the last I heard, might've changed now.

edit on 3/14/2014 by seentoomuch because: (no reason given)

IF that did happen, and IF there was a hijacking underway, it would be one way to throw the would-be hijackers around the cabin in an effort to avoid a take-over. But that is just a guess on my part

At one time in the airlines we were told to pin them to the ceiling using negative gs. Then, the cabin crew and pax would be able to "contain" them.

Also if only some aircraft spotters from malaysia were on here, if they had airband scanners they may haver been listerning that evening, sometimes airways comms can be quite revealing...

There is talk of Hijacking and Foul play. If such a thing did occur and lets keep this on the human level, then searchers should be drawing radial circle from where plane was last radar plotted by Malaysia and looking at all known and potential places it could land based on its fuel capacity.

UKGuy1805
Also if only some aircraft spotters from malaysia were on here, if they had airband scanners they may haver been listerning that evening, sometimes airways comms can be quite revealing...

And embarrassing at times. Some of the things one hears on the frequency are amusing.

reply to post by rockflier

Great technique! Thanks for the info you two

Or long range UHF i assume they are still used for internal comms from air to land?

UKGuy1805
Or long range UHF i assume they are still used for internal comms from air to land?

Depending on distance. Over the US we used VHF through a ground relay to base. On international flights, especially over water, we used UHF or SATCOM.

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Yeah i kno i used to work in the trade, and being an aircraft nut i own a radio and chuckle at some of the convo's.

reply to post by UKGuy1805


I went to Flightradar, my god, look at all those planes in the US alone. Makes me queasy

I found this video earlier tonight, posted it elsewhere... its interesting

reply to post by rockflier


UHF could have worked then? i know of hams who listern to long range shipping and "other " transports they would have been so usefull now...

UKGuy1805
reply to post by rockflier

 

Yeah i kno i used to work in the trade, and being an aircraft nut i own a radio and chuckle at some of the convo's.

LOL, understood. I assume you have heard some of the "crown jewels" of commo funnies.