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paxnatus
I don't care who the patient was and i guarantee when the truth comes out, we will learn that the owner or supervisor of the facility was notified in advance!
I obtained a written statement from the victim, which was placed in evidence.
I was then instructed by Lt. Tinkey to go and obtain a warrant for the offender.
Myself and Lt Tinkey advised all the nurses at the station that I would be attempting to obtain a warrant and would be back if a judge signed it, to arrest the offender.
Onslaught2996
Of course there are some right wingers are standing up for the four white cops assaulting the black nurse. Of course they believe the report, I mean why would cops lie, it's not like they are covering their butts or anything.
I can see the posts now if it had been a white nurse..the same right wingers defending the cops would be all over this and complaining about rights being taken away ..etc and also somehow blaming Obama for this.
I would like to see the whole video...the part where she locks the police out. All I see is the cops speak with her, she says something back...gets on phone..hands over phone..then gets rushed and assaulted.
I'm thinking the psychiatric facility is going to get an new patient soon.........
Waiting for the other shoe to drop in this discussion.........
defcon5
Metaphysique
rubbish, that's an interpretation and a very strained and a very weaselish one.
Under the US Constitution you have no legal right to countermand a warrant unless it is in conflict with another equal law. As mentioned in the case of the President, he can do so by claiming protection under the National Security Act.
Metaphysique
oh look she was also tasered, that's "strange" when did that happen?
She was obstructing and resisting.
I'm going to tell you what I think happened here. Someone with a dose of authority at work decided that she felt that she was in a position to exert her authority beyond her rights, and got a hard lesson that she was in the wrong. Based on her remark “not on my shift”, I would guess because she didn't want to do the paperwork involved. When you obstruct, you commit a felony (in many states). If you commit a felony and resist being arrested, you're going to get tazed and/or pepper sprayed.
Now what is going to happen is she is going to be convicted with a felony and lose her nursing license. I sure hope that she can show in her facilities “policy and procedures manual” that it states that you can detain officers serving a warrant while you contact your supervisor, because if it doesn't, she's SOL...
I have worked in MANY hospitals and medical facilities, and I cannot name a single one that has a policy of detaining or interfering with the police serving a warrant.
Metaphysique
ROFL my, my, what with this self serving BS, at this point I'd post larken rose's [snip] video but you'll have to google it as moderators have already threatened me with a Ban for posting it once.
Police “use of force matrices” dictate when an officer can legally use force and at what level. If it was judged in compliance, its because upon reviewing the footage, the officers followed the “Use of force policy” of that department.
If you don't like the Laws in the US, you have two options; 1)Move 2) Seek to have them changed.
...But you cannot hold police responsible when they are within the law and policies of their state, and department.
Metaphysique
3- ooooh that dawg won't hunt TDREX,
BECAUSE THE OFFICERS FOLLOWED HOSPITAL PROTOCOL WHEN THEY ASKED TO INTERVIEW THE COMPLAINANT
ACCORDING TO OFFICE VICE[OUS]'S REPORT
" Lt. Tinkey arrived on the seen and joined me on the interview with the Victim. The nurses station was advised of the situation we had and we would need to speak to the Victim in a private room. the nurses then got the victim and opened a conference room for us to use"
defcon5
reply to post by Metaphysique
The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized.
Fourth Amendment says that upon the issue of a warrant the police have the right to search, seize, and arrest. No 'legal' authority of anyone other then a judge can overturn this.
I'm going to tell you what I think happened here. Someone with a dose of authority at work decided that she felt that she was in a position to exert her authority beyond her rights, and got a hard lesson that she was in the wrong. Based on her remark “not on my shift”, I would guess because she didn't want to do the paperwork involved. When you obstruct, you commit a felony (in many states). If you commit a felony and resist being arrested, you're going to get tazed and/or pepper sprayed.
bigfatfurrytexan
It is called "nursing judgement".
bigfatfurrytexan
As a nurse she has a dutyto ensure the life, health, safety, and care of those patients. Not doing so creates criminal liability for her.
bigfatfurrytexan
None of us knows what patients were on that floor. If there was something that needed to be tightly controlled.
bigfatfurrytexan
She picked up the phone to call a superior. Making a decision that comprimises the life/health/safety/care of a patient can cost her a license, or worse, jail time.
bigfatfurrytexan
So you don't make those decisions alone.
Lawrenceville police told Lucie they cannot comment on pending litigation, but they did send him the incident report from Oct. 31, 2011. [/exnews]
The report said when officers asked to see the accused patient's room she told them "Oh no, this is not happening while she was in charge." The report also said she ran to the nurse station door and locked it.
Bien-Aime is facing a felony charge of obstructing a police officer.
This is a beautiful facility for Mental Health Treatment and substance abuse..Does not look under funded to me.
I do not know how they do it in Texas but in Ga., Va. and Tn. yes, the facility has police officers there for security purposes! They carry weapons! I find it hard to believe that 5 officers were sent to see this person if the person was not highly suspected!!
As far as the people on here defending the nurses actions in order to protect a patient, what about the patient that was possiibly assaulted???? Guess she didn't give a flip about that one!!
She was clearly power tripping here!!!! Those officers were not playing around and i am sure she was resisting and i know she was obstructing justice!! You cannot do whatever the hell you want just because you are in charge of a patient or facility!!! We carry liability insurane for that purpose!! She made a bad call!!
here is the facility: Summit Ridge Hospital
www.wsbtv.com...
Starwise
***But what happened to common courtesy. The major concern to the nursing board establishment is the possibility of the patient being in isolation for airborne or other highly contagious illnesses such as MRSA, Influenza, C-Difficile, and Tuberculosis.
Starwise
You would also think that the LEOs would exhibit more poise and not act in a bullying manner.
Starwise
It is nursing and hospital policies to notify the supervisor or manager immediately when the police do arrive.
Starwise
What they did was definitely excessive use of force and unnecessary. What are they out to prove in their behavior? Their actions by far speak far louder than words.
Metaphysique
what obviously really happened according to the official report was that after following hospital protocol with regard to interviewing the complainants wife
Lysergic
Yet he is smiling in his mug shot, how come no cop felt the need to bust one on this guy?
defcon5
Starwise
***But what happened to common courtesy. The major concern to the nursing board establishment is the possibility of the patient being in isolation for airborne or other highly contagious illnesses such as MRSA, Influenza, C-Difficile, and Tuberculosis.
This happened at 2:00 Am, the Police had been there dealing with this since 8:00Pm, and the nurses were aware of it. This patient was NOT contagious, he was a mental health patient.
Starwise
You would also think that the LEOs would exhibit more poise and not act in a bullying manner.
What obviously happened here was that the nurse was not going to let them take her patient for whatever reason. The staff had been made aware of what was occurring, but she was going to "protect" him.
Follow my link above, and read the police report.
Starwise
It is nursing and hospital policies to notify the supervisor or manager immediately when the police do arrive.
You don't keep the police locked out while you do it. You let them do their thing, you call your supervisor and tell them what is going on, and you fill out whatever paperwork you are required to fill out.
Starwise
What they did was definitely excessive use of force and unnecessary. What are they out to prove in their behavior? Their actions by far speak far louder than words.
Go read the police report and look at the temper tantrum that she threw when they were taking her to the car.
Metaphysique
to just waltz in and arrest somebody
or kidnap somebody
Metaphysique
without anybody questioning.
Metaphysique
thus, there are rules and protocols in hospitals for very damned good reasons