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defcon5
reply to post by Metaphysique
The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized.
Fourth Amendment says that upon the issue of a warrant the police have the right to search, seize, and arrest. No 'legal' authority of anyone other then a judge can overturn this.
bigfatfurrytexan
She had every right. She is responsible for the therapeutic environment of her patients.
bigfatfurrytexan
The police couldn't give a rats ass about the guy in the room next door that is gasping for what little bit of air he can suck through a straw, or what the commotion will do to him.
bigfatfurrytexan
What kind of ward were they trying to enter?
bigfatfurrytexan
Was it mental? What about them having guns? Having worked in a mental hospital, I can guarantee you that police are not allowed onto a locked unit with their firearm.
bigfatfurrytexan
What about HIPPA?
defcon5
You should recommend that your facility change this policy as they have no right to overrule a judges warrant for arrest, and you could end up under arrest yourself.
TDawgRex
I have a question.
Why are people here defending a nurse who was blocking access to an alleged sexual predator?
juspassinthru
Who said anything about blocking access?
She was following her protocol. Hopefully the next protocol she will be following is her lawyers instructions in a 7 figure law suit.
Accordingly, as a general rule, health care providers should not disclose protected health information to police and should not allow the police to access the patient in the hospital unless: (1) the patient consents to the access or disclosure; (2) the police have a warrant or order allowing such access or disclosure; (3) a statute allows or requires the access or disclosure; or (4) the access or disclosure is required for security or safety reasons.
juspassinthru
The nurse should turn over *anyone* to the blue-suits. Even those with bubonic plague, viral hemorrhagic fevers or other conditions. After all, the cops know best, eh?
juspassinthru
Who said anything about blocking access?
She was following her protocol. Hopefully the next protocol she will be following is her lawyers instructions in a 7 figure law suit.
Gwinnett County nurse Marthe Bien-Aime was tasered and arrested after she refused to grant police access to a patient at the Summit Ridge Hospital, who was suspected of sexually molesting another patient. Police said Ms. Bien-Aime obstructed police officers, but her brother said she was just following hospital policy. It should be noted that Summit Ridge is a psychiatric facility.
Three officers took an unruly Bien-Aime to the ground and handcuffed her with plastic "flex cuffs." A female officer, identified as C. Vice, shocked Bien-Aime with a Taser when she writhed in the hospital's hallways to stall her arrest, according to a Lawrenceville police report.
#Lawrenceville police Maj. Paul King said the incident has been reviewed, as is protocol when police respond to resistance, and has been "deemed to be within department policy." There will be no internal investigation, King said.
Lawrenceville police on Tuesday defended an officer who shocked a handcuffed hospital nurse with a stun gun after the nurse allegedly acted as a barrier between police and a sexual battery suspect, mocked an officer and flew into a tirade
Officers fetched a sexual battery warrant for Lockhart, returned to the hospital but were met by a dogged Bien-Aime, who said she'd taken "an oath to protect" patients and called officers' actions "an injustice," the report states.
#Vice wrote that she twice warned Bien-Aime she could be arrested for obstruction if she didn't get out of the way. Officers called in Lt. M. Tinkey who warned the nurse a third time, the report states.
#"The nurse ... began laughing at (the lieutenant) and told him that she did not think that he would arrest her," Officer Vice wrote.
Metaphysique
rubbish, that's an interpretation and a very strained and a very weaselish one.
Metaphysique
oh look she was also tasered, that's "strange" when did that happen?
Metaphysique
ROFL my, my, what with this self serving BS, at this point I'd post larken rose's [snip] video but you'll have to google it as moderators have already threatened me with a Ban for posting it once.
TDawgRex
reply to post by Metaphysique
1-Not buying the BS being put forth by this nurses defenders. I want to know more and from every link I've seen, the nurse was in the wrong.
2-Since it was a psychiatric facility, I'm thinking that the patients have taken over the asylum based upon her actions.
3-Could it have been handled differently, you betcha. If she wouldn't have gotten in the way, I'm sure not much would have came of it. There would have been a questioning and if the guy accused didn't have a record, probably nothing would have came of it other than a stern talking to. She escalated things.
" Lt. Tinkey arrived on the seen and joined me on the interview with the Victim. The nurses station was advised of the situation we had and we would need to speak to the Victim in a private room. the nurses then got the victim and opened a conference room for us to use"
paxnatus
Everyone accept for a few on here needs to exercise some common sense..This nurse, locked the DOOR when the police arrived!! I can tell you now this was not a psychiatric facility, having been a nurse that has worked plenty of mental health type facilities, THERE IS ALWAYS POLICE PRESENCE IN THE HOSP. HIRED BY THE HOSPITAL!!! iT IS A REQUIREMENT FOR SAFETY PURPOSES!!
If she was the only nurse present, I am guessing this was some type of nursing home facility at best!! The suspect was wanted for kidnapping and sexual assault, most likely rape!!
This nurse was power tripping big time!! A nurse that lacks common sense does not make a good nurse!!! I don't care who the patient was and i guarantee when the truth comes out, we will learn that the owner or supervisor of the facility was notified in advance! This was not a case of police brutality! This was a case of Obstruction of Justice and she could be charged, although it would be a stretch, with aiding and abetting a dangerous criminal!
The police did her a favor when they tased her. If she had continued arguing she very well may have said a lot more incriminating herself!
Pax