U.S. pilot scares off Iranians with ‘Top Gun’-worthy stunt

JRCrowley

MystikMushroom
Our pilots are used to F-4's, as they were (up until recently I think) used for training. The F-22 pilot totally knew he could get the drop on the F-4, as they probably had already tested the stealth abilities of of the F-22 with an F-4 at some point.

Iran: Still flying F-4's

America: Shooting down F-16's that are remotely controlled for training

+1 America.

Iranian gross external debt: $14.34 billion (31 December 2010 est.)

American gross external debt: $14.71 trillion (June 2011)

+1 Iran

LMFAO, wait what??? "+1 Iran"? Umm okay, sure...
This thread is about planes, where did gross external debt come from? OH I GET IT!! THIS IS ANTI-AMERICAN RHETORIC, stupid me! wow you sure got me on that!! YOU SURE GOT ALL OF US AMERICANS ON THAT!!
seriously, grow up.

reply to post by peck420


You're right, it costs about a thousand to take over a Predator.

www.popsci.com...

reply to post by PlatinumShatinum

That is a good question. After all if they did it once, and made it crash, would they not have had time to take it apart, figure out what makes it tick and then turn around and use that tech against the USA including turn around and in short hijack the drones when they get too close?

Or was it just all a big bluff on the part of the Iranians, the first time around and they really did not do such?

PlatinumShatinum
You're right, it costs about a thousand to take over a Predator.

www.popsci.com...

Aside from the fact that DHS drones and US Mil drones don't share communications equipment, spoofing a short range control vs a long range control...also, vastly different animals.

Edit to add:

The drone that was 'spoofed', was not an actual US DHS drone.

It was a drone owned by the University.

Also, the $1000 was on top of having access to the University's super computer. A multi-million dollar piece of equipment.

So, it took a team of people, with access to millions of dollars of equipment, and inside knowledge (intimate) of the drone targeted to get a temporary control set over short range.

I'm sure the US Mil is quivering in fear about it.

PlatinumShatinum
reply to post by peck420

 

You're right, it costs about a thousand to take over a Predator.

www.popsci.com...

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Your right, it does take a 1000 bucks, but good thing for us, it was a dare from one of our agencies to see if it was possible, you see, you fail to realize that this is a good thing, it helps in exposing weakness in our systems, thus giving us a chance to fix them.
Very good on that article, great job on showing AMERICAN INGENUITY.

reply to post by princeofpeace


Cruise speed for an F-4 is 590mph, so unless he flies on afterburner, it's gonna be longer sir.

Line 2

Always thought all our UAV's had some stealth ability's. But if F-4"s were tracking it at over 16mi out , money for it was not well spent.

Obviously, because America has no global presence that various countries depend on. Pulling them out of everywhere - no one would notice and no collapses would happen...surely.

reply to post by Shugo


You're mostly right, unless you're being sarcastic; you realise where Guam is?

The Iranian Air force seems more of a shoot first think about the dreadful consequences later. They almost got Earth embroiled in an intergalactic war in 1976. Strange though the source says they never saw the escorts though; based on what?

reply to post by PlatinumShatinum


Did you bother to read it? That's the unencrypted video feed from the cameras. Not the UAV.

reply to post by peck420

There are definitely powerful factions within the Iranian military that are trying to goad the US into a fight.

"Goading" aside, Iran isn't the one conquering the region. The US and its cronies are. Iran knows it heads the list, sure its going to pick a fight with the worlds Premier Superpower.

reply to post by PlatinumShatinum


Do you bother to read them or just the headlines? That had NOTHING to do with a Predator. That was a semi autonomous quad copter where they spoofed the GPS. They didn't take it over they made it think it was somewhere it wasn't.

Once again, a Predator is hand flown through the entire flight. You can't take it over by spoofing the GPS.

Someone probably already stated this, but this story just sounds like propaganda nonsense.

I'm sure stuff happens all the time in international airspace involving various countries and their craft. But to create a piece showing the "top gun like action" of an American plane "protecting" a drone against Iran makes my eyes roll. I doubt the details of this story. I doubt an Iranian plane attempted or even contemplated harm to American craft in international airspace. All clues these days points to the desire of the U.S. to find an excuse to invade Iran, not the other way around.

MajorAce
Always thought all our UAV's had some stealth ability's. But if F-4"s were tracking it at over 16mi out , money for it was not well spent.

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You thought wrong.
Anybody can track anything that's NOT trying to be stealth, ugh the ignorance displayed is appalling.
Money for it was very well spent and more put into it.
Good try though.
I don't mean to be mean, but...well oh well, if you actually read the article, they didn't even SEE the F-22s.

reply to post by MajorAce


Oh God no. The only non black UAV that is even remotely stealthy is the Sentinel, and there are only like 19 of them.

OrphanApology
Someone probably already stated this, but this story just sounds like propaganda nonsense.

I'm sure stuff happens all the time in international airspace involving various countries and their craft. But to create a piece showing the "top gun like action" of an American plane "protecting" a drone against Iran makes my eyes roll. I doubt the details of this story. I doubt an Iranian plane attempted or even contemplated harm to American craft in international airspace. All clues these days points to the desire of the U.S. to find an excuse to invade Iran, not the other way around.

...as I'm reading this post, I'm rolling my eye's too, its really sad to think that small beans, hot shot maneuver is our entry point into a MAJOR CONFLICT to invade iran, seriously...*Rolls Eyes*
Your right about one thing tho, iran would think twice before engaging a US asset.

reply to post by Morg234


Based on the fact that, one, they didn't react until he was on their wing, and two, I'll guarantee communications were being monitored, and even if they couldn't break the encryption, you can tell when a warning is sent out, and nothing like that was heard.

reply to post by Zaphod58

Again though, while you would send a UAV capable of flying around 400 knots and has a huge radar return, to penetrate heavily defended airspace, no real military commander would be that stupid.

Stupid is as stupid does. Looks like one commander got close enough to cause a scramble. Besides they time these things.

We want a picture of said "enemy" asset. How close can we get and still escape after jets are scrambled? How far is it to safety and all that?

Tell me thats not going on 24/7...

reply to post by OrphanApology



Which is why we're sitting down and taking to them right? Trying to schedule the invasion around vacations?

reply to post by Arnie123

Its the press release that tells us about the incident.

Its the press release that tells us the "cover" story.

By the by, please proof read your posts that last one was scrambled.

reply to post by intrptr


Defense baiting is the oldest game in the book. The Russians have started doing it again to the US and Europe, China does it to Japan, and the US has done it to Iran. But if you bother to try to understand how it's done, you DON'T use a slow turboprop aircraft to do it. You use something like the EP-3, or RC-135 to do it. Something fast enough to get out of the area, not something that my dead decaying grandmother could catch.