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Reptilian, Amphibians and other Ancient "Alien/Gods"

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posted on Jul, 6 2011 @ 02:32 PM
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Hello...

I was going through some older threads on "Ancient Alien Theory" and came across a few posts of mine with some rather interesting comparisons. I thought I'd dust them off and present them here for your enjoyment. Now for the record I'm a believer in "ET". I'm not saying they built "Pyramids" or showed us how to split the Atom etc [They could have helped us by jump starting civilization but so far there is no direct evidence] However, I believe that from time to time they may have visited us in our past.

While many threads discuss the topic by focusing on Giant Blocks of stone and post comments "We couldn't do it today" Yadda Yadda Blah Blah Blah. I say we could have and most likely did build those Giant monuments with simple Blood Sweat and Tears.

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Ancient mans climb up...



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The real question is why? Oftentimes to supposedly honor a "god" of some sort or other divine deity but which god? This thread will not focus on Giant stone monuments [There are plenty of those already] but on the tales and stories we have in our collective histories from around the world.

I took some heat in my fairly recent thread I wrote How they Built the Great Pyramid of Egypt because I excluded the "Ancient Alien" angle. What many didn't realize is that I dont agree 100% with the accepted stance that it was a tomb or how many years it took to build or even a concrete stance on when it was built.

All too often other cultures and their history get overshadowed by Egypt or the Mesopotamian/Sumerians etc. The peoples of the New world were pretty sophisticated as well. All have tales and stories of Dragons, Amphibians and or Reptilians etc. I believe they are much older than the accepted dates.

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This thread will focus on the many similarities between a wide verity of cultures, civilizations and across time all seemingly saying a very similar story...

Some in the modern world seem to have fixated on the possible "Grey" alien, if there were Ancient Aliens then why do most talk about "Amphibian" or "Reptilian" beings? Maybe, just maybe we have been looking in the wrong areas. It is said that life here on Earth began in our oceans. Could another advanced race have evolved on a similar aquatic planet?

It seems more likely and plausible that if they spotted Earth with it's vast oceans they would be drawn here because of them. Finding not intelligent Amphibian or Reptilian life but Mammalian..."us".

Enjoy.

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Dagon the Fish-God

Painted Illustration of Dagon in Ancient Times
Dagon was the god of the Philistines. This image shows that the idol was represented in the combination of both man and fish. The name "Dagon" is derived from "dag" which means "fish."


FUXI
The Chinese have maintained that their civilization was founded by amphibious beings that had a man's head and a fish tail. The entity, named Fuxi, has been depicted as both male or female. The date traditionally ascribed to him is 3322 B.C. In Chinese mythology, Fu Xi or Fu Hsi was the first of the mythical Three Sovereigns of ancient China. He is a culture hero reputed to be the inventor of writing, fishing, and trapping.
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Kind of reminds me of the Dogon story of their "Amphibian" god. It gets repeated all over the world.

The Dogons believe that in ancient times, an aquatic culture came to them from out of the sky. Human looking beings, acting as saviors and spiritual guardians, landed close to their village in a space ship described to have 3 triangular legs. Being that they were amphibious, upon landing, they filled a reservoir of water onto the land. Exiting their ship was done by diving into this reservoir.

How strange and frightening this must have been to the Dogon of this time! After the initial arrival, the Dogons realized that much like our amphibious creatures today, the NOMMOS were able to adapt to both environments, thus although their primary home would be water, they were still able to walk , talk and live on land. Another thing that was so amazing about these star people was in the fact they had shapeshifting abilities. Whether it was done by mersmerization or not is unknown to me.



Ancient China, man riding a dragon.


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Now if we look at some of the Olmec, Mayan and Aztec art we find other similarities. Mythic Olmec figure riding on Quetzalcoatle "Dragon", sculpture from the ancient Olmec site of La Venta (Mexico). Olmecs are considered to be the oldest Meso American Culture.
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Notice what the figure has in his hand lets take a look now at this one. Here we have a figure from the other "cradle of civilization"
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The next few images are of a tale regarding a "Strange Visitor" who washed ashore. To me it appears that her legs are covered in what could be a representation of fish/reptilian scales...
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Edo-period UFOAboard the drifting vessel was a finely dressed young woman with a pale face and red eyebrows and hair. She was estimated to be between 18 and 20 years old. Because she spoke an unfamiliar tongue, those that encountered her were unable to determine from whence she came. In her arms she clutched a plain




Here are some more amphibian gods


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I found these few years ago on a web page that was auctioning these ancient Olmec figure of "Amphibians". They belong in a museum not hidden away in some private collection IMO

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I don't know what the deal was with those, They look like they could be amphibians or dragons they have tails etc. Now here are a couple of interesting figurines. Both are from Ancient Olmec finds.


This next one I cant imagine what they were trying to describe.

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Here is a Terracotta example of one of their earliest god.

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To the Babylonians, Draco was Tiamat, a dragon killed by the sun god in the creation of the world. To the Greeks, Draco guarded the Golden Apples of the Sun in a magical garden. Greek lawgiver Draco

Athenian lawgiver whose harsh legal code punished both trivial and serious crimes in Athens with death—hence the continued use of the word draconian to describe repressive legal measures.




How about ancient Egypt flying on winged serpents?
More dragons?


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And whats the deal with Sobek?
Another Reptilian/Amphibian god?


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Sobek? Egyptian creation myths, it was Sobek who first came out of the waters of chaos to create the world.[1] As a creator god, he was occasionally linked with the sun god Ra.[1]



More about the Dogon

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The Nommo are ancestral spirits (sometimes referred to as deities) worshipped by the Dogon tribe of Mali, Africa. The word Nommos is derived from a Dogon word meaning, 'to make one drink'. The Nommos are usually described as amphibious, hermaphroditic, fish-like creatures.

Folk art depictions of the Nommos show creatures with humanoid upper torsos, legs/feet, and a fish-like lower torso and tail. The Nommos are also referred to as Masters of the Water, the Monitors, and "the Teachers" That last bit there reminded me of the "Watchers" from the book of Enoch...

Well there you have it. A quick comparison. I hope you found it as interesting as I do. This leaves us with more questions than answers. But, that's what makes this mystery so tantalizing.


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posted on Jul, 6 2011 @ 02:45 PM
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Wonderful Research! I appreciate your comments and your work. The only thing that is certain about our world is that there are many things we don't know. We are amnesic to our history and even our own identity. Not sure, that is ever going to change. These figurines/pics may give us hint to our identities; or not. Thanks for the great post.



posted on Jul, 6 2011 @ 02:46 PM
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posted on Jul, 6 2011 @ 02:51 PM
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Doesnt get any more trollish than that.



But putting this Obvious Troll aside that was a nicely written article S&F for you.
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posted on Jul, 6 2011 @ 03:02 PM
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What amazes me is these ancient peoples went through all the trouble to create things like this. Did they just have vivid imaginations, or where they trying to depict what they saw? Truly strange the things they created. The similarity between cultures divided by vast oceans is also a perplexing mystery.

Interesting thread.
S&F
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posted on Jul, 6 2011 @ 03:02 PM
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Nice presentation. I think there is so much to this realm of study but it seems like many get scared when considering they are not at the top of the food chain, which is a primitive way to think especially when higher technology is factored in -why wouldnt they be able to feed themselves taking them out of the food chain- BUT RESPECT MAY BE UNIVERSAL.

I follow much of the data in relation to reptillians or amphibians and mammals. What captures me is the creatures mainly associated with water may have more data within the oceans and some lakes but we cannot see them yet. Even with known top notch equipment. Sorry some of us cannot see as I am sure there is technology that has bumped into a few we shall call em temples or pyramids and HOLES? down there but they mask the data so satillite imagery over looks them??? Maybe for somes own good I guess. How would any take seeing and advanced structure about 4 miles down that may still be active/inhabited so 1 understands. As long as they are content there there is no reason to bother them
I dont think that in todays society the potential secrets down in the oceans will be freely shared so its not, but I think there is more there to be seen. Many speak of a time when poles will physically shift and this may be how those "temples or advanced structures" get to resurface. Now if something celestial (whatever that may be) began to interact with these risin structures then that would be a good indicator that these structures are theirs and that they were here before. Just imagine seeing full body mineral sculptures of the ancients in color, gems and metals and all. It would be beautiful at first for many until some realized that those are not human.....

Now the reptillian related who are not of water mass like, may be inside the Earth or moon or for that matter any other sphere in the various caverns beneath the surface. Sorta like some of the reptiles we see that come above ground but like to return to their underground homes. I think that if they were technologically advanced they would of came to a logical stand point that above ground can become HARSH at times so its better to stay low - adopted technics by the D.U.M.Bs builders of Earth to GO LOW when its time....
So to find more data or artifacts, LARGE scout teams would need to be gathered and enter Earth from ALL known locations. Like from cave entrance or water entrance or volcano entrances and ofcourse POLE entrances. With this there may be more clear data found. The problem is what is done if data is found, that is too sensitive does it go to Vatican or still shared with populace that Earth is shared with other intelligent beings or is it just like below the oceans leave em be as long as they are content.

In time I really feel these answeres will come somehow as if SOME want the truth to be known for whatever reason. So we shall see

S&F for the presentation as it is a sensitive topic but you still made it happen.

Be well



posted on Jul, 6 2011 @ 03:04 PM
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Originally posted by TheGuyThatThinksClearly
doesn't get anymore Cult- like then that...


To each his own.

I get the feeling that your life is filled with bogeymen, intrigue and mystery...



posted on Jul, 6 2011 @ 03:04 PM
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posted on Jul, 6 2011 @ 03:05 PM
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Originally posted by SLAYER69

Originally posted by TheGuyThatThinksClearly
doesn't get anymore Cult- like then that...


To each his own.

I get the feeling that your life is filled with bogeymen, intrigue and mystery...


not really my life is filled with proven facts and proven facts only.



posted on Jul, 6 2011 @ 03:07 PM
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Im not going to argue with people who are negative like you. Its a theory. If you dont like it TOUGH. Its not going away so you can stop trolling. And my liking of True Blood doesnt mean im a bad person. As i said im not going argue with you im going to report you.

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posted on Jul, 6 2011 @ 03:09 PM
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posted on Jul, 6 2011 @ 03:11 PM
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Your accusing people who believe in the AAH to be in a Cult.....Not only is that trolling its making accusations without any Evidence.



posted on Jul, 6 2011 @ 03:15 PM
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Originally posted by TheGuyThatThinksClearly

Originally posted by SLAYER69

Originally posted by TheGuyThatThinksClearly
doesn't get anymore Cult- like then that...


To each his own.

I get the feeling that your life is filled with bogeymen, intrigue and mystery...


not really my life is filled with proven facts and proven facts only.


I better not ever see you make an assumption with words like that.
I don't want to see you drawing conclusions from evidence either.



posted on Jul, 6 2011 @ 03:15 PM
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@TheGuyThatThinksClearly

It is a dreary thing indeed, to live a life without some mystery...



@SLAYER69

Intriguing thread and well presented material. It's a fascinating discussion and it does set one's mind in motion, though I do think in the end we will find more questions then we will find answers. That is not such a bad thing.



posted on Jul, 6 2011 @ 03:16 PM
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Originally posted by ObvTruth
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Your accusing people who believe in the AAH to be in a Cult.....Not only is that trolling its making accusations without any Evidence.


I think it is a cult.....
just like raelism, and all the other little groups and ancient theories you "believers" support.

I think it is a cult.



posted on Jul, 6 2011 @ 03:19 PM
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Originally posted by ObvTruth
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Your accusing people who believe in the AAH to be in a Cult.....Not only is that trolling its making accusations without any Evidence.


Dam owned.



posted on Jul, 6 2011 @ 03:21 PM
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posted on Jul, 6 2011 @ 03:21 PM
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Is it really logical that the Pyramid of Giza was built in 20 years? Using 2.3 million blocks? That's alot of blocks to be carved, shipped, and placed in a certain location.



posted on Jul, 6 2011 @ 03:26 PM
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Just because they are considered a cult doesn't mean all people who believe in the AAH are extremists. Not all Muslims are terrorists. And the people who aren't are good people and they live a life with morals. Nothing wrong with that. And believing Aliens visited us in the past isn't evil either.



posted on Jul, 6 2011 @ 03:26 PM
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These theories are nothing more than entertaining fantasy.


All of your truths are contradicted by the fact that interstellar travel is not feasibly possible. Even if an Alien species were able to accelerate their space-ships to 99% of the speed of light, which would require using up entire planets' worth of resources just to spy on us, their species would be long extinct by the time they returned (assuming they come from stars that are 20+ light years away, as we have observed all star systems nearer and can conclude they harbor no life) as time dilation only occurs in the traveler's perspective. This does not also take into consideration that hydrogen atoms become lethal projectiles when traveling at relativistic speeds and something as insignificant as a dust particle can collide with the force of a fission nuclear explosion with a space ship traveling at those speeds.

No Alien civilization is going to go through all of those obstacles just so they can spy on us primitive human beings, and the notion of multiple round trips and guiding humans along is laughably delusional.



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