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Originally posted by Blaine91555
reply to post by searching4truth
He murdered an old man and attempted to kill two others. Whether he deserves whatever he gets is moot as he does deserve it. The money should go to the victims family though and not the State. No Murderer should ever be able to profit or save money while in jail.
Of course in Illinois they may make him Governor before it's over.
Originally posted by benrl
reply to post by searching4truth
Okay, besides this case, Forget this man and his innocents or not.
The core of what the state is doing is setting a precedent to bill the cost of incarnation to the prisoners assets (its a bank account) IF they are successful this could allow the State to seize other assets in the name of the prisoners (houses, businesses etc.)
So say a successful businessman is sent to jail, the state would have legal precedent to pursue his personal assets and wealth to pay back for his incarceration.
Now to be honest I wouldn't be surprised if we see this all over now with states hurting budget wise, its a smart business move on the states part.
I would say this is bigger than just this case, and Id like to see how far the appeals go and what groups come out to fight for this guy in court.
Originally posted by Blaine91555
reply to post by searching4truth
He murdered an old man and attempted to kill two others. Whether he deserves whatever he gets is moot as he does deserve it. The money should go to the victims family though and not the State. No Murderer should ever be able to profit or save money while in jail.
Of course in Illinois they may make him Governor before it's over.
Originally posted by syncelebrity
reply to post by StigShen
They get tv's, heated rooms at 70 degrees, beds( those who cant sleep can request memory foam), Huge meals that are fresh prepared (most of the time), phone calls, any medical attention they ask for, some get tobacco, Junk food, free lawyer representation to be used against the doc and state as well as co's. The list go's on and on.
Richard Fine, who holds a PhD in international law and served as an anti-trust prosecutor at the Department of Justice in Washington D.C., has been in jail in the L.A. County Jail for over a year in solitary confinement. He never had a trial, there has been no conviction, nor any sentence to keep him there. Sheriff LeRoy Baca claims he does not know why Fine is in jail, yet he keeps him there and failed to answer Fine’s Writ of Habeas Corpus.
"I ended up here because I did the one thing no other lawyer in California is willing to do. I took on the corruption of the courts," Fine said in a jailhouse interview with CNN.
For the last decade, Fine has filed appeal after appeal against Los Angeles County's Superior Court judges. He says the judges each accept what he calls yearly "bribes" from the county worth $57,000. That's on top of a $178,789 annual salary, paid by the state. The county calls the extra payments "supplemental benefits" -- a way to attract and retain quality judges in a high-cost city.
Originally posted by benrl
reply to post by StigShen
Technically he would not be able to do that job if he had not done the crime, so in a very technical definition he is indirectly profiting from his crime, and i am sure the state will use that argument in the court case.
Originally posted by searching4truth
reply to post by HoldTheBeans
If the victims had brought a civil case against him and won a settlement, I'm sure his money would go to them. But that's not the issue.
Yes, we all agree that murdering another individual is bad. But the nature of his crime is irrelevant, they are simply attempting to seize the assets of a prisoner. A person does not need to serving time for murder, it could by any lesser charge and they would be able to site this case and seize the persons assets, no matter whether they were attained through crime (which are typically taken) but all assets. To me that is scary.