Tesla discovered free energy, plans resurface and presented here for all.

reply to post by FlyInTheOintment
Its always good to try and learn something. I started a thread here. I never recieved an answer that was satisfactory just a bunch or people impressed with thier answers that were incomplete. If you could take a look and see if you get what I am looking for.

Originally posted by leaualorin
NO! I did build a "tesla turbine" some years now and gave up with his studies after seein for myself the effects of electric magnetic fields on human body/cells! (EMF).
It's slowly destroying our body!

Magnetic fields are generated by current flow, and not voltage.

In my opinion, the goal should be using technology to create appliances that use far less power, and that will draw less current from the power source.

reply to post by felonius


I don't understand. Where did I say I was doubting him?

I've not seen his design, so I don't have a clue how he might've increased his power output. It also very much depends on where he lives.

By the way, what do you mean by "oatbox radio"? You have a 50' wire, but what is it attached to? What is the surface area of your collector?

Precisely how are you measuring the power? Is that continuous power, or after an accumulator has charged. What is the duty cycle?

I'm curious as to some specifics, even in the case of your more rudimentary device.

I used to light ordinary 240V fluoro tubes or even 100W incandescent bulbs a foot or so away from my tesla coil. That was powered by a car battery. It's all standard physics, despite what the free energy people would have you believe. There are large tesla coils in science museums and you can find descriptions of them in many standard electronics and physics books.

reply to post by leaualorin


Why all the vitriol to Tesla? You would have us think he raped your dog and killed your parents.

He looked weird? That makes him evil? I guess Stephen Hawking must be evil incarnate

No disrespect to Mr. Hawking.

reply to post by Screwed


your response reminded me of something, that i try to follow now...something Jesus said...paraphrased...do not bring your pearls before swine, for they trample them and try to devour you....

Very true, the pigs in the world would often rather destroy and attack ideas of great merit instead of embrasing something that gets them outta the dirty hole they are in.....go back to wallowing in your own crap...

Your mama ever tell you, if you don't have something positive to say keep your hole closed??...if not she should have

Sorry if this offends any of the negative thread contributors....but I can't keep everyone happy...

reply to post by XtraTL


My mistake and apologies.

I build and play with crystal set radios. My favorite is a toss up between my "Phaeton Mystery" circa 1932, and my rudimentary "tuggle".

The "oat box" is pretty much what it seems. i'm using an oatmeal box "former". I wrapped 18awg wire (pvc insulated so its "double space" wired). If I remember right I wrapped it for a resonance of about 200uH (micro henries). Its "tapped" at every 10 turns. I think I have about turns on a 5" former. Its being rectified by a 1n60 ge diode and tuned via a 400pF vari cap.

It was my first. I can tune pretty much then entire MW (am) band. I run it through a LM386 amp. Its cheating but i really dont have a decent set of high impedence headphones.

The tuggle is basically an antenna coil and a tuner coil that you move apart to adjust the inductive field. Its hard to explain. Think one coil with the antenna, one coil with the tuner and diode and output.

The "mystery" is a real cool thing and only the most arcane and eldritch of "radio gurus" really can explain it and only a few of those TRULY understand "why" it works. You have a bifilar coil that has the tuner and antenna coil operating via induction. Kinda like a "tuggle" but they are on the same former. i used a plastic frosting cup.

Here is a link to the mystery set.

www.clarion.org.au...

CONSTRUCTION OF SET The first constructional step is the winding of the coil. As this is a little unusual, I will endeavour to make it as simple as possible. Wind 12 turns of 24 gauge D.S.C wire on one end of the former, and, without breaking the wire, stop winding and punch two holes in the former, and thread the end of the 30 gauge wire through these holes to make it secure. Then continue the winding with both the 24 and 30 gauge wire so that, for the next 25 turns, the coil is so wound as to have a turn of the 30 gauge wire between each turn of 24 gauge wire. When 36 turns of 24 gauge wire, and 25 of the 30 gauge wire have been wound on, stop winding, and, without breaking the 24 gauge wire, break the 30 gauge wire, and secure it by punching two holes in the former and threading it through these. Now continue winding the 24 gauge wire for another 13 turns, and then securely fasten by punching a further two holes in the former, and the coil is complete.

I have pics if your interested!

Theyre not as pretty or fancy as some but they're mine

posting this is a waste of time. im not an engineer and I doubt anyone here is either. Either go make one yourself and start mass production to sell or just stop making the threads. these threads are so redundant now, they should be locked by a mod

Originally posted by bridak
reply to post by Varemia

 

Tesla said that he had complete plan's that were shown to him in his head. He would see a white flash and then would see the plans. He said they weren't like cartoons but exacts plans and schematic. He was a poet before he had those flashes and never studied in any scientific field.
It is absolutely incredible that no one talk about that anymore.

If any of you are interested in knowing what flashes of my own i had 4 weeks ago i'll gladly reply as it is all written already. I am very excited to say the least about it..It is just an experience however so i'm not gonna be revealing that i invented anything..lol

Peace, Always

Feel free to prove me wrong, but I think you may be embellishing the story a little.

He would see complete plans in his head, and he had an incredible ability to actually run a machine in his head and visualize the operation and make needed adjustments prior to building the prototype.

When he invented the AC generator, as I understand the story, it just popped into his head suddenly while he was on a walk, I believe, with his cousin, and he took a stick and drew the design right there in the dirt.

I don't buy the "it was shown to him" line of thought. Tesla was a genius in his own right. He was not an alien, unless you consider his initial immigration status in the US. And he was not a God. He was just a Man out of Time.

The big thing now with wireless battery recharging using an inductive field is straight from Tesla. He also invented the "and" and "or" gates which led to the use of binary control for computers- Yes, without Tesla we may not have had computers, or we may not be as far along as we currently are.

He invented so many concepts that are used today that it just blows me away how little most people know about him. Tesla had a far, far greater positive impact on humanity than Edison ever even aspired to. That is not to say that Edison gave a poop about humanity, because I don't think he did....

reply to post by skywalker_


This guy here in Australia has built a coil on his land and it seems to work
check it out
tesladownunder.com...

reply to post by felonius


Ah, a crystal set. I should've just googled "oatbox radio". But your description was much nicer.

I used to build crystal sets when I was a kid. I had a little piezo earpiece in which I could *just* hear the local AM radio stations. I used a ferrite rod "aerial", but I also seem to recall our family having a crystal set with wire wound on a former with taps and a genuine germanium point contact diode.

I'm not completely sure what you mean by needing a radio expert to explain how it works. I understood the principles at about age 11, though I won't claim that I could have written down the mathematics at that tender age. :-)

I'm still puzzled by your remarks about the (presumably) DC you are getting off your 50' wire. Doesn't that measurement strike you as odd? There are some circumstances where I could believe it, but I think most of those places you wouldn't actually want to be living, if you had a choice....

The voltage I can believe. It's the current I find hard to reconcile. I'd be interested in hearing more.

Originally posted by leaualorin
reply to post by Agarta

 

oh come on...
DO YOU KNOW WHAT YOU'VE POSTED?
DID YOU EVER TRIED TO MAKE ONE OF THESE DEVICES?
W T F are you all posting something you don't know what you are talking about?!
Well let me tell you one thing:

Taking just one invention : sending energy through the ionosphere ANYWERE IN THE WORLD AT NO COST FOR THE RECEIVER AND WITH NO ELECTRICAL WIRES MIGHT JUST BE THE END OF HUMANITY!
That curent through the ionosphere will disturb the electric charge that the human body NATURALLY HAS!
That can be translated in :
a lot of affection WILL SURELY OCCURE IN THE HUMAN BODY AS A RESULT :

1.decrease immunity
2.hormonale imbalances
3.nausea and dizziness
4.hypertension
5.Chronic Fatigue
6.tumors
7.leukemia
8.liver cancer
9.colon cancer
10.kidney cancer
11.Breast cancer
12.Skin cancer
13.brain tumors
14.endocrine tumors
15.Allergies
16.convulsions
17.insomnia
18.cataracts
19.deaths at birth
20.depression
21.memory loss
22.suicidal
23.dysfunction in learning
AND MANY MORE!
So stop the BS with how "magnificent NIKOLA TESLA IS" BECAUSE YOU ARE WRONG!
This "advance" in humanity is actually a involution , and FROM MY POINT OF VIEW OUR LIVES SHOULD BE TOTALLY DIFFERENT THAN WHAT IS TODAY!
We should look a lot more into our spirituality and living in a natural way , NOT what we are doing today(destroying our bodies and soul!).
And if you don't believe me DO YOU SEARCH/"HOMEWORKS" and convince yourself what is what!

p.s. : from my point of view NIKOLA TESLA IS EVIL! He was tall , had a strange look , might as well be a reptilian desguised as human that brought a lot of VERY EVIL INVENTIONS to a bunch of ignorant humans!

Me thinks you sipped a little to much naughty water... Reptilians come on take a break from the computer, go outside and actually experience life.

reply to post by Bee2010


We do tesla coils pretty well in Australia. :-)

Here's one at questacon (a science museum):

en.wikipedia.org...:Lightning_simulator_questacon02.jpg

Here's one at the University of Western Australia:

tesladownunder.com...

The Universities of Sydney and Queensland also have them, but I can't find photos of them in operation at present.

They are of course illegal without at least a faraday cage, due to the disruption of AM radio reception for about a mile in each direction. Umm, I may or may not have tested this personally (the statute of limitations has hopefully passed by now). One also has to be very careful with the high voltage spark gap circuitry. You can kill yourself if you put fingers in the wrong place. (I may have neglected to mention this to my parents at the time.)

Every kid should have the opportunity to build and irradiate themselves with one of these for fun and science!

reply to post by leaualorin


Wow. Absolutely unbelievable response. Obviously, you are happily (ignorantly) using this "evil" "unnatural" electrical technology, as you are posting in this thread. I sure hope you are trolling. I mean, holy cow....
Tesla is very much responsible for many of our luxuries today, and probably directly/indirectly for your computer. -JSYK

I've always been a fan of this man, and consider him one of my heroes in life. After all, he was experimenting with the wireless transfer of energy/power in the late 19th century!!! Something we still don't have in 2011.

reply to post by Agarta


That guy looks like a genius magician or something.

Originally posted by DragonTattooz

Originally posted by bridak
reply to post by Varemia

 

Tesla said that he had complete plan's that were shown to him in his head. He would see a white flash and then would see the plans. He said they weren't like cartoons but exacts plans and schematic.

He would see complete plans in his head, and he had an incredible ability to actually run a machine in his head and visualize the operation and make needed adjustments prior to building the prototype.

When he invented the AC generator, as I understand the story, it just popped into his head suddenly while he was on a walk, I believe, with his cousin, and he took a stick and drew the design right there in the dirt.

i don't remember if my source was a biography or another book but the reason Tesla could do the things quoted above was because he had extraordinary powers of visualization.

these were the result of special brain games his mother came up with for the purpose of enhancing his memory and ability to visualize among others.

S&F

Why do people complicate things, sorry if I’m a bit off-topic with my post, but to reply to all the members posting technology has bad effects on us hazardous, killing us slowly, we can live without electricity, etc.

Why bother buy a computer pay monthly electric and internet connection bills, browse the web, join ATS, then you will be posting anti-tech comments, I don’t get it.

Humans were born and eventually dies, no matter what kind of environment where in pure or polluted. If you want to live a 100+ years you are free to do so, move to a place where people reach those ages. And forget about computers, internet, electricity, cellphone, etc…

If you want to keep all that and live healthy there might be a way, why not improve their inventions, study how to reduce or eliminate the bad effects on human health of those things that they created that is now part of our lives, rather criticizing the works of those people who already has a big contribution for us though it might be taking our lives a bit sooner, something that would be happening anyways.

Well I'll be one to say that I will be definitely building something like this and I think everyone should do the same. I wonder if solar activity increases, if the potential for high output energy would as well...

reply to post by FlyInTheOintment


your cute, I will still give my analysis anyways. It is a shame that we both misunderstand each other. Zero point energy exists, however most so called "machines" that use it are frauds. It is a well known fact that all "zero point" perpetual free energy machines are fraudulent. It violates the laws of thermodynamics.

You should not try to instruct someone who has more knowledge than you do and whose lively hood resides in.

Originally posted by thepainweaver
I've always been a fan of this man, and consider him one of my heroes in life. After all, he was experimenting with the wireless transfer of energy/power in the late 19th century!!! Something we still don't have in 2011.

Not to disagree with you -- I agree we still don't have wireless transmission of electricity as envisioned by Tesla.

But it should be pointed out that wireless transmission of electricity using resonance has been demonstrated over short distances (a few metres) and companies are working on commercialising that.

Also, strictly speaking, Tesla also never got to demonstrate his (Wardenclyffe) concept of wireless transmission of electricity either.

It's not clear to me how Wardenclyffe tower was intended to work.

It seems that Tesla believed that he could turn part of the atmosphere into an (electrostatic?) conductor.

He viewed earth as a giant LC (inductor-capacitor) circuit, and thus "resonant".

Essentially by ionising the atmosphere above Wardenclyffe, either by the breakdown of the air due to the enormous voltages he was generating (unlikely -- there'd just be a discharge straight to earth as per the tesla coil photographs you see around the web) or by ionising it with an ultraviolet beam above both the transmitter and receiver. That would then create a conducting plasma from the tower up to the desired point in the atmosphere.

He then perhaps aimed to set up a standing wave in the atmosphere at the given point above sea level, presumably by hitting some kind of natural resonance with his high voltage tesla coil.

Tesla was veritably obsessed with resonances.

This concept of power transmission is slightly different from what we have in mind these days though (modern solutions use tuned coils in close proximity for transmission around a building say, though they do work on a principle of resonance).

The problem with Tesla's concept (if it worked -- I assume no one really knows, as I assume it has never been tried) is that any country could set up their own tower and pilfer the energy. The people running the source transmitters would have no way to police the people setting up receivers. I suppose you could just bomb rogue towers....

It's also not completely clear what exactly would happen if part of the atmosphere of the whole earth was meddled with in this way. Regardless of whether it did or didn't have any problems people would still carry on about the supposed health effects they were experiencing and every time dead birds turned up it would be blamed on the technology, no matter how well it had been studied or was understood.

reply to post by AlteredTom


Probably, but local effects are much more noticeable. The variation in total solar irradiance is something like 0.1%. The change in the solar wind (which is essentially responsible for the potential difference you are exploiting) is less than 20%.

On the other hand, the difference between winter and summer is a factor of 2-3. I seem to recall reading it was to do with the rate of condensation, though I didn't look into specifics.