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Originally posted by cupocoffee
reply to post by smurfy
Something I've always wondered about the Leo Wanta thing, what does his supposed $27 Trillion fortune consist of? Cash? Bonds? Gold?
If Gold, then where is it, who has it?
Supposedly Obama has the power to sign off on the "Wanta-Reagan-Mitterand Protocols" and release all that money, but has not done so. Why?
Like so many of these issues, there's more questions than answers.....
Originally posted by cupocoffee
reply to post by smurfy
Something I've always wondered about the Leo Wanta thing, what does his supposed $27 Trillion fortune consist of? Cash? Bonds? Gold?
If Gold, then where is it, who has it?
Supposedly Obama has the power to sign off on the "Wanta-Reagan-Mitterand Protocols" and release all that money, but has not done so. Why?
Like so many of these issues, there's more questions than answers.....
Originally posted by smurfy
I would presume that the money was converted swiftly back to dollars, or country of convenience from Rubles. The main thing is, because it was slush fund money, and eventually ending up in various bank accounts, many rogue individuals in government and intel were/are after it. It has been said that no MSM will touch the story with a bargepole...
Originally posted by cupocoffee
Originally posted by smurfy
I would presume that the money was converted swiftly back to dollars, or country of convenience from Rubles. The main thing is, because it was slush fund money, and eventually ending up in various bank accounts, many rogue individuals in government and intel were/are after it. It has been said that no MSM will touch the story with a bargepole...
Well if it's just paper money then that's not very useful.
$27 Trillion in paper money returned to the US Treasury - well, whoopee! Why not just get the Fed Reserve to print them $27 Trillion more?
Now if it were gold bullion or something like that, that would be a much, much bigger deal.....
Originally posted by cupocoffee
Originally posted by smurfy
I would presume that the money was converted swiftly back to dollars, or country of convenience from Rubles. The main thing is, because it was slush fund money, and eventually ending up in various bank accounts, many rogue individuals in government and intel were/are after it. It has been said that no MSM will touch the story with a bargepole...
Well if it's just paper money then that's not very useful.
$27 Trillion in paper money returned to the US Treasury - well, whoopee! Why not just get the Fed Reserve to print them $27 Trillion more?
Now if it were gold bullion or something like that, that would be a much, much bigger deal.....
Originally posted by SpaDe_
Is this a typo? 500 trillion? I could see 500 million, I would seriously question 500 billion, but 500 trillion? Come on! This countries national debt is around 14 trillion. Are these figures being presented in zimbabwe's currency? This figure is just so unrealistic that I don't think I could believe it even if it were true.
So warned Warren Buffet of derivatives six years ago.
“Charlie and I are of one mind in how we feel about derivatives and the trading activities that go with them: We view them as time bombs, both for the parties that deal in them and the economic system,” is how the Oracle of Omaha put it.
That time bomb almost went off in March 2008 with the Bear Stearns debacle. The title of an article by noted analyst Ambrose Evans-Prichard—“Fed’s rescue halted a derivatives Chernobyl”—says virtually everything you need to know.
According to the article, Bear Stearns held a jaw-dropping $13.4 trillion in derivatives, which is “greater than the U.S. national income.” So where did it all go? Well, this time anyway, JP Morgan was encouraged to step in to add Bear’s derivatives to its own $77 trillion portfolio, giving the financial giant a grand total of $90 trillion in spooky derivatives.
Originally posted by wcitizen
Originally posted by cupocoffee
reply to post by smurfy
Something I've always wondered about the Leo Wanta thing, what does his supposed $27 Trillion fortune consist of? Cash? Bonds? Gold?
If Gold, then where is it, who has it?
I don't know. It's all so complicated, and so many different stories, I find it impossible to follow it all in detail.
There's a bunch of people of RMS who report regularly on some of this and related issues, Some say all the gold has been recuperated and is in a hidden location, but what and who to believe is beyond me! I really miss Story's updates.
Supposedly Obama has the power to sign off on the "Wanta-Reagan-Mitterand Protocols" and release all that money, but has not done so. Why?
Yes, I've read that as well. Apparently he won't sign off either because he is in on it or because of threats to his family, depending on who you believe. Mostly from what I have read he is in on it too and expecting a slice of the pie if they can keep it. Story seemed to believe he was one of the 'bad guys' but as you're probably aware, he also spoke of terrible threats regarding Obama's daughters.
Like so many of these issues, there's more questions than answers.....
Absolutely. So many questions!edit on 6-12-2010 by wcitizen because: (no reason given)edit on 6-12-2010 by wcitizen because: (no reason given)edit on 6-12-2010 by wcitizen because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by smurfy
It really is 'effing complicated, I suppose to know the real story, someone would have to collate every deal done in those derivatives not dedicated to a singular interest rate, just to begin with. That it seems, is where the owed 600 trillion figure comes from, it is a world wide figure, and I guess much of it is centered in the northern hemisphere or maybe not. Whatever, if worldwide the GDP is just 60 trillion and derivatives tied to variable interest rates equals 600 trillion then mr banker is in tough tiddy. This is where we are at today, and all the bailouts won't cut the mustard, and you have to ask yourself was it all a plan in the beginning. The name game keeps cropping up, as do the scenarios. You have,
George Soros oppertunist, self-made man and suspicious of authoritarian government, proponent of more transparant goverment, ( His kind of NWO?) prodigeous benefactor in different causes, and connected to Mark Stevens, Attorney to Julian Assange.
All the Bush family, ( a different kind of NWO)
The marital Clintons?
The CIA and FBI and the rest in name.
Leo Wanta, and part of his monetary responsibilty wired from the Bank of China,and stolen by US intelligence.
Ed Falcone, monies stolen by US intelligence incoming from Thailand.
Rumour now has France and Germany producing new Francs and Deutschmarks, so it has to be in anticipation of something.
Originally posted by smurfy
Hi Sea!
As far as I remember, Leo Wanta's cache was originally 1.25 trillion from the 80's and today is thought to be worth 70 trillion. Where the 500 trillion comes from is anybody's guess.edit on 6-12-2010 by smurfy because: Error amend.
Originally posted by smurfy
Rumour now has France and Germany producing new Francs and Deutschmarks, so it has to be in anticipation of something.