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Originally posted by acmpnsfal
There are also the Ica stones, which predate the bible, and depicts humans riding dinosaurs.
Ica Stones
In 1996, another BBC documentary was released with a skeptical analysis of the stones and the newfound attention to the phenomenon prompted the authorities of Peru to arrest Basilio Uschuya, as under Peruvian law it is illegal to sell archaeological discoveries. Uschuya recanted his claim that he had found them and instead admitted that they were hoaxes created by him and his wife. He was not punished, and continued to sell similar stones to tourists as trinkets.[citation needed]
He also confirmed that he had forged them during an interview with Erich von Däniken...
en.wikipedia.org...
Originally posted by The time lord
If people have been on ATS long enough they should have come across the Angelic Human crossbreed experiments of the time of Noah where Angels took women and bread Human Giants as described in Genesis 6 of the Bible.
It is said that not only humans were corrupted but also animals and if that included Animal Giants too
then maybe that means the Dinosaurs in terms of fitting the picture into the Bible chronology.
Since they were of a giant size anyway, who says that maybe they were not a result of experiments
and by doing so God decided to save the pure animals that we have today of their kind and then along with humans while sending a flood to bury the Giants, be it Human hybrids or dinosaurs.
This would make sense why they are all buried and preserved, almost like at once the same process swept them under the sea and as a result we have the oil that we sell to power our own giant’s vehicles.
Originally posted by Byrd
Since I work with paleontologists and I work on dinosaurs, I thought I'd answer.
Except that this story is not true. The "Sons of God" is "ben Elohim" which does NOT translate to "angel." Angel is "Malak" in Hebrew. The two are very different things -- the person who started this speculation could only read the Bible in English and didn't know that you have to check the original human language.
So there were no "angel-human crossbreeds."
4397 mal'ak mal-awk' from an unused root meaning to despatch as a deputy; a messenger; specifically, of God, i.e. an angel (also a prophet, priest or teacher):--ambassador, angel, king, messenger.
Genesis
3:14 And the LORD God said unto the serpent, Because thou hast
done this, thou art cursed above all cattle, and above every
beast of the field; upon thy belly shalt thou go, and dust
shalt thou eat all the days of thy life:
3:15 And I will put enmity between thee and the woman, and
between thy seed and her seed; it shall bruise thy head, and
thou shalt bruise his heel.
They don't fit into the Bible at all.
Uhmmmmm... oil comes from the accumulation of plant and animal matter in very distant prehistoric swamps, not from huge piles of dinosaurs.
Originally posted by Canis Lupus
Why would God need to do genetic experiments anyways? I sometimes wonder if what we call God was really just some advanced alien species manipulating and creating what we know as Earth. Being that God isn't from Earth but created it would already suggest that he is an alien according to our definitions.
I cant speak for all the other "guys" that have worked so hard at this hidden knowledge called forbidden history. So, I will try to answer you in laymen terms as I understand your question.
Originally posted by Zosynspiracy
So in summary what do you guys believe? Lots of good info but can you summarize your points? Thanks. I'd like to learn more?
Are most you leaning towards god being an alien?
Originally posted by Shane
The balance of the Old Testament has a slightly altered use of the term, and the manner inwhich it is implied.
www.eliyah.com...
4397 mal'ak mal-awk' from an unused root meaning to despatch as a deputy; a messenger; specifically, of God, i.e. an angel (also a prophet, priest or teacher):--ambassador, angel, king, messenger.
So, an Angel, is a Station of Service, apposed to a Specific Enitity, who is used by God as a Messenger, which would also include People like Enoch, Daniel and John the Revelator for examples. They too are Messengers.
It is just with Angels, these are the Ben Elohim carrying out this duty.
The Sons of God had various tasks. Some where incharge of Music. Some guarding places or items. Some annoucing messages much like the visitors Lot had the day prior to his "Move". There are many tasks the Sons of God performed and perform today.
Here is the first example of a Son of God producing offspring. A Naughty Son none the less, but one who held the Highest Station of the Sons of God. ("pleased to meet you. won't you guess my name" or so the song goes)
As for Dinosaurs
They don't fit into the Bible at all.
I believe it has already been addressed here by others, that YES, they are included within the Scriptures, breifly, but noted none the less.
I found this humourous though
Uhmmmmm... oil comes from the accumulation of plant and animal matter in very distant prehistoric swamps, not from huge piles of dinosaurs.
You are joking right?
* Type 1 source rocks are formed from algal remains deposited under anoxic conditions in deep lakes: they tend to generate waxy crude oils when submitted to thermal stress during deep burial
* Type 2 source rocks are formed from marine planktonic remains preserved under anoxic conditions in marine environments: they produce both oil and gas when thermally cracked during deep burial.
* Type 3 source rocks are formed from terrestrial plant material that has been decomposed by bacteria and fungi under oxic or sub-oxic conditions: they tend to generate mostly gas with associated light oils when thermally cracked during deep burial. Most coals and coaly shales are generally Type III source rocks.
Originally posted by Byrd
Do you have a reference to the ben Elohim doing duties for a deity?
Genesis 19:15 And when the morning arose, then the angels hastened Lot, saying, Arise, take thy wife, and thy two daughters, which are here; lest thou be consumed in the iniquity of the city.
19:16 And while he lingered, the men laid hold upon his hand,
and upon the hand of his wife, and upon the hand of his two
daughters; the LORD being merciful unto him: and they brought
him forth, and set him without the city.
19:17 And it came to pass, when they had brought them forth
abroad, that he said, Escape for thy life; look not behind
thee, neither stay thou in all the plain; escape to the
mountain, lest thou be consumed.
"19:13 For we will destroy this place, because the cry of them is waxen great before the face of the LORD; and the LORD hath sent us to destroy it."?
Genesis 28:12 And he dreamed, and behold a ladder set up on the earth, and the top of it reached to heaven: and behold the angels of
God ascending and descending on it.
and
Genesis 32:1 And Jacob went on his way, and the angels of God met him.
psalms 8:1 O LORD, our Lord, how excellent is thy name in all the earth! who hast set thy glory above the heavens.
2 Out of the mouth of babes and sucklings hast thou ordained strength because of thine enemies, that thou mightest still the enemy and the avenger.
3 When I consider thy heavens, the work of thy fingers, the moon and the stars, which thou hast ordained;
4 What is man, that thou art mindful of him? and the son of man, that thou visitest him?
5 For thou hast made him a little lower than the angels, and hast crowned him with glory and honour.
6 Thou madest him to have dominion over the works of thy hands; thou hast put all things under his feet:
7 All sheep and oxen, yea, and the beasts of the field;
8 The fowl of the air, and the fish of the sea, and whatsoever passeth through the paths of the seas.
9 O LORD our Lord, how excellent is thy name in all the earth!
430 'elohiym el-o-heem' plural of 433; gods in the ordinary sense; but specifically used (in the plural thus, especially with the article) of the supreme God; occasionally applied by way of deference to magistrates; and sometimes as a superlative:--angels, X exceeding, God (gods)(-dess, -ly), X (very) great, judges, X mighty.
Except the serpent isn't ben Elohim...........
It's pretty clear he's sticking snakes on poles and not people.
5175 nachash naw-khawsh' from 5172; a snake (from its hiss):--serpent.
and from it's root..
5172 nachash naw-khash' a primitive root; properly, to hiss, i.e. whisper a (magic) spell; generally, to prognosticate:--X certainly, divine, enchanter, (use) X enchantment, learn by experience, X indeed, diligently observe.
and in it's sister form..
5173 nachash nakh'-ash from 5172; an incantation or augury:--enchantment.
Furthermore, the "ben Elohim" show up (not as giants or as Nepthelim) in other parts of the Bible. Job: "Now there was a day when the sons of God came to present themselves before the LORD, and Satan came also among them."
We also see: "There were giants in the earth in those days; and also after that, when the sons of God came in unto the daughters of men, and they bare [children] to them, the same [became] mighty men which [were] of old, men of renown."
The ben Elohim did not sire giants. The giants were there first.
Originally posted by Shane
Originally posted by Byrd
Do you have a reference to the ben Elohim doing duties for a deity?
I made reference in my previous post to these "Fellows"
Genesis 19:15 And when the morning arose, then the angels hastened Lot, saying, Arise, take thy wife, and thy two daughters, which are here; lest thou be consumed in the iniquity of the city.
These Angels carried forth God's Message to Lot and his family. Who else would these beings be?
"19:13 For we will destroy this place, because the cry of them is waxen great before the face of the LORD; and the LORD hath sent us to destroy it."?
The Sons of GOD!
Genesis 28:12 And he dreamed, and behold a ladder set up on the earth, and the top of it reached to heaven: and behold the angels of
God ascending and descending on it.
and
Genesis 32:1 And Jacob went on his way, and the angels of God met him. Not just Angels, but angels of God.
psalms 8:1
...
Here, angels, used in this wonderful chapter full of insght, is from the word elohiym in the original text.
Except the serpent isn't ben Elohim...........
It's pretty clear he's sticking snakes on poles and not people.
Is it? Really???
Well lets review nachash
5175 nachash naw-khawsh' from 5172; a snake (from its hiss):--serpent.
and from it's root..
5172 nachash naw-khash' a primitive root; properly, to hiss, i.e. whisper a (magic) spell; generally, to prognosticate:--X certainly, divine, enchanter, (use) X enchantment, learn by experience, X indeed, diligently observe.
and in it's sister form..
5173 nachash nakh'-ash from 5172; an incantation or augury:--enchantment.
All imply and carry the same or similiar meaning. Not a "Snake" per se, but the hissing as a snake.
WHO DO YOU THINK DAN BROWN FAMILY LINES ARE BASED UPON IN THE DAVINCI CODE? The Serpents. Genesis 3:15!!!
I get what you are noting, and I trust this is accurate.
The Sons of God are NOT giants. I completely agree.
The Sons of God are NOT Nephilium. I still have difficulties with, due simply to linguistics.
The ben Elohim did not sire giants. The giants were there first.
Oh, You have been studying GOD's WORD. Good for you my dear.
Originally posted by SLAYER69
The Aliens found a Dinosaurs infested habitable backwoods planet and they did their best to eradicate them first then they were able to help create a new hominid, human/alien crossbreed.
Book of Enoch Chapter VI.
1. And it came to pass when the children of men had multiplied that in those days were born unto them beautiful and comely daughters.
2. And the angels, the children of the heaven, saw and lusted after them, and said to one another: 'Come, let us choose us wives from among the children of men and beget us children.'
3. And Semjâzâ, who was their leader, said unto them: 'I fear ye will not indeed agree to do this deed, and I alone shall have to pay the penalty of a great sin.'
4. And they all answered him and said: 'Let us all swear an oath, and all bind ourselves by mutual imprecations not to abandon this plan but to do this thing.'
5. Then sware they all together and bound themselves by mutual imprecations upon it.
6. And they were in all two hundred; who descended ⌈in the days⌉ of Jared on the summit of Mount Hermon, and they called it Mount Hermon, because they had sworn and bound themselves by mutual imprecations upon it.
7. And these are the names of their leaders: Sêmîazâz, their leader, Arâkîba, Râmêêl, Kôkabîêl, Tâmîêl, Râmîêl, Dânêl, Êzêqêêl, Barâqîjâl, Asâêl, Armârôs, Batârêl, Anânêl, Zaqîêl, Samsâpêêl, Satarêl, Tûrêl, Jômjâêl, Sariêl.
8. These are their chiefs of tens.
The B'nai Elohim saw the daughters of Adam, that they were fit extensions. And they took wives for themselves from all those that they chose...The Nephilim were in the earth in those days, and even afterwards when the B'nai Elohim CAME IN TO the daughters of Adam, and they bore to them -- they were Powerful Ones which existed from ancient times, the men of name.
37 But as the days of Noe were, so shall also the coming of the Son of man be.
38 For as in the days that were before the flood they were eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage, until the day that Noe entered into the ark,
39 And knew not until the flood came, and took them all away; so shall also the coming of the Son of man be.
2 Thessalonians
2:9 Even him, whose coming is after the working of Satan with all power and signs and lying wonders,
2:10 And with all deceivableness ofunrighteousness in them thatperish;becausethey received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved.
2:11 And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie ...
Originally posted by Shane
Prince Charles believes his family line runs to Cain, and thus to Adam. The fact is THEY believe it themselves.