End of days timeline

I always get lost on the sequence of events that will occur in the end times invovling the beast anti christ armageddon bowls of wrath etc etc can some one please try to give me the sequence thanks

In the New Testament.

If I were you], I would read , Ezekiel 38,39 and Revalation.

After reading these, I would get a good commentary on the books read (at local book store) to get the modern language equivalent......My opine!

...or, Google under bible prophecy/end times

[Edited on 15-7-2003 by Tyriffic]

I'll give you the sequence of the symbols and only include minimal commentary:

The 7 seals - natural and manmade disasters - the 4 horsemen - -plague, famine, war and death; earthquakes, multiple astroid/meteorite impacts; the sealing of the witnesses for protection; On the seventh seal there is 1/2 hour of silence in heaven - probably in reverence to what is to come. The tribulation begins with the first seal, but the "Great Tribulation" (Jacob's Trial) has not yet begun.

The last seal initiates the 7 trumpets.

The 7 trumpets - political/spiritual corruption - the rebuilding of the Jewish Temple; the two returned witnesses; the Beast; the great apostasy; major comet/astroid impact; pollution of significant portions of water; a great earthquake; the 3 woes. On the 7th trumpet the removal of the believers - the rapture. The occurrences associated with the trumpets can be classified as natural, man-made and supernatural in that the angels play a significant role. The trumpet period can be viewed as the removal of the protective hands of God...there's a lot of bad stuff out there we haven't been having to deal with up until this point. With the removal of his protective hands, the world has to.

The 7 vials (or bowls) of God's wrath - what can be viewed as "Jacob's Trial"; with the believers gone and the nonbeliever, apostates and followers of the Beast left behind; the world will suffer a series of events caused by God's wrath - this culminates in the gathering at Armegeddon and the beginning of the last world war - which is cut short prior to total annihilation by the second coming of Christ with his angels. The beast and those with his mark are cast "into a lake of fire". Satan is imprisoned.

The "Millennium" - one thousand years of peace on earth under Christ's reign; life goes on; babies are born in this utopic environment - no temptation during this period; no trial of free-moral-agency for those born during this period.

End of Millennium - Satan is released for a short time; temptation and deception is allowed for those born in the Millenium (opportunity for free-moral-agency); satan is thrown into the same "lake of fire".

Great white throne - judgement; the nonbelieving dead are judged by God based on their works; a new heaven and a new earth...nothing but good times ahead.

Thank's valhall, where do u think we are now in those events?

A note, since revelation is written in symbols that visualize things in it, there is a possibility that 1000 years period is a metaphor for something. Some interpreted it like that anyway.

Also, according to book 'Father Elijah' about two witnesses mentioned in revelations, first trumpet already went away.
In this book, a man entered into the car of this priest, Elijah which is main charachter, and said something like 'First trumpet went..'. This man was actually angel. (in book of Tobiah in bible, Raphael came as human).

Megaquad...thanks for that info. Yes, indeedy, it's very symbolic and anyone should take any interpretation knowing that.

F16...IMHO the horsemen ride as we speak.

Well, whose going to start the next topic.

I too believe the Horsemen are riding. Do I think they have arrived? ....that is for some serious discernment...a myriad of facts must be taken into account....1948 and Israels formation, wars and rumours of wars spoken, words of peace followed by war itself; pestilence in the midst of prosperity, and soon to come at a theatre near you...............

a 7.8 earthquake...

yeah, the rest is in the World Seismic thread

We are now in the time of the New book(New Religion) to be writen. The prophets are singers. For who else could sing the songs of Moses? Manson was and is the third and final beast. Death will be the arrow with a cross. Sagittarius. The host of the heavens Jupiter. The first day of Prophesy is the day of Hellraisers.

Oh and btw to rain with christ is to rain in the land of the dead. Satan is another name for Saturn. The planet of Awareness. Lucifer and satan have never been proven to be the same in any book. It has only been assumed. Lucifer is Venus. We are in the process of watching the planets align. The time when the time gate will close. And all electrical curent will erase. Including the mind. We can not pass throught the gate of heaven unless we come as a child. This is the ffect of the time gate.

cainecrawford not sure if I understand what you are saying which Manson are you talking about?

Who is writing the New Religion?

You seem to be jumping around a lot here its very difficult to understand what you are saying....

Can you be more specific?

Caincrawford why have you not responded?

i dunno i was readin some stuff and it's some scary stuff, do you guys have any idea who the moabites, babylonians, assyrians(just to name a few) are in our modern day world??

the last angle pulling back and releasing his bow will probally translate either into a massive nuclear exchange between rivel nations or a massive meteor impact.

As I see it the Book of Revelation is built on several levels. The seals, the trumpets and the vials are three periods in world history. I believe we are currently living in the "Age of Alarms" if you like. If the sixth trumpet hasn't yet been blown, it will be soon. This I call the third World War.

Before the first trumpet is blown an angel cast down fire from the altar of God to Earth: the wisdom of nuclear energy is let down to man. Man starts experimenting with Radium, Uranium etc.:

Revelation 8:5�And the angel took the censer, and filled it with fire of the altar, and cast it into the earth: and there were voices, and thunderings, and lightnings, and an earthquake. 6�And the seven angels which had the seven trumpets prepared themselves to sound.

Then comes the first World War with the first airstrikes, aeroplanes carrying bombs:

Rev 8:7�The first angel sounded, and there followed hail and fire mingled with blood, and they were cast upon the earth: and the third part of trees was burnt up, and all green grass was burnt up.

World War 2 with 1/3rd of all ships sunk and the atomic attack on Japan. In Hiroshima, 1/3rd of the population was blown away:

Rev 8:8�And the second angel sounded, and as it were a great mountain burning with fire was cast into the sea: and the third part of the sea became blood; 9�And the third part of the creatures which were in the sea, and had life, died; and the third part of the ships were destroyed.

Chernobyl or Chornobyl means wormwood in Ukrainian. Chernobyl lies in Ukrainia. The ashes from the blast was brought by the wind over vast areas. Many people died from contaminated water etc.:

Rev 8:10�And the third angel sounded, and there fell a great star from heaven, burning as it were a lamp, and it fell upon the third part of the rivers, and upon the fountains of waters; 11�And the name of the star is called Wormwood: and the third part of the waters became wormwood; and many men died of the waters, because they were made bitter.

When Internet came, so did pornography and other kinds of immorality. Many of the children (stars), and parents (Sun and Moon) were morally darkened. And truth (light) is darkened. Many book carrying holy men's names surface and many of them are false:

Rev 8:12�And the fourth angel sounded, and the third part of the sun was smitten, and the third part of the moon, and the third part of the stars; so as the third part of them was darkened, and the day shone not for a third part of it, and the night likewise.

Then there are many candidates to whom/what the eagle in the next verse is:

Rev 8:13�And I beheld, and heard an angel flying through the midst of heaven, saying with a loud voice, Woe, woe, woe, to the inhabiters of the earth by reason of the other voices of the trumpet of the three angels, which are yet to sound!

Before the Golf War.... The fifth trumpet is like a step by step description of the five month long Gulf War: Burning oil wells which smoke turned day into night, sworms of American Apache Helicopters coming out of the thick smoke, humiliation of the Iraqi troops. And it's all becoming really ironic when you get to know that Saddam means Destroyer:

1�And the fifth angel sounded, and I saw a star fall from heaven unto the earth: and to him was given the key of the bottomless pit. 2�And he opened the bottomless pit; and there arose a smoke out of the pit, as the smoke of a great furnace; and the sun and the air were darkened by reason of the smoke of the pit. 3�And there came out of the smoke locusts upon the earth: and unto them was given power, as the scorpions of the earth have power. 4�And it was commanded them that they should not hurt the grass of the earth, neither any green thing, neither any tree; but only those men which have not the seal of God in their foreheads. 5�And to them it was given that they should not kill them, but that they should be tormented five months: and their torment was as the torment of a scorpion, when he striketh a man. 6�And in those days shall men seek death, and shall not find it; and shall desire to die, and death shall flee from them. 7�And the shapes of the locusts were like unto horses prepared unto battle; and on their heads were as it were crowns like gold, and their faces were as the faces of men. 8�And they had hair as the hair of women, and their teeth were as the teeth of lions. 9�And they had breastplates, as it were breastplates of iron; and the sound of their wings was as the sound of chariots of many horses running to battle. 10�And they had tails like unto scorpions, and there were stings in their tails: and their power was to hurt men five months. 11�And they had a king over them, which is the angel of the bottomless pit, whose name in the Hebrew tongue is Abaddon, but in the Greek tongue hath his name Apollyon. 12�One woe is past; and, behold, there come two woes more hereafter.

Then we are where we are now. At the second woe. Is it the War Against Terror? If so this war will become the most terrible war man has ever seen: 1/3rd of the people in the world will perish, but even so people does not stop to worship art, medicine, killing and immorality. 200 million troops will fight in this war. A mighty Angel steps down from Heaven who declares that time is up and delivers a bittersweet prophetic message to the people of the Earth. Then the Temple seems to have been rebuilt and it also seems like at least one of the mosqs will still be standing in the outer courtyard, when two prophets who is likened with the two lightstands and the two olive trees that stand before God shall bear witness. They are able to hold back the rain and make the sea red as blood. They can also stike the Earth will every disaster. They are eventually killed after their ministry of 1260 days in a war that will reveil the identity of the beast that comes up of the pit of death who will accuse them in the spiritual city called Sodom and Egypt, where also Jesus was accused. This trial and execution will bring about great joy among the people of the world, they will party and exchange gifts, for the two prophets had caused much distress. They will not be allowed to be buried, something which is terrible for a Muslim or a Jew. They returt to life after having spent three and a half day in Hades where noone can hold anything against them. They rise up on their feet and walks up into Heaven like Jesus did 2000 years ago. At this time there is a great earthquake that destroys one tehth of the city and 7000 people is killed. Those who remain praises God and give him the honour.

The seventh trumpet is when Jesus reaches the state of God and his king shall rule with a staff of metal. Jesus' enemies are now layed down like a footstool, and this is celebrated in Heaven. Judgement can start: First Jesus orders his kingship to be established, and a woman who's standing on the Moon, dressed in the Sun and with a crown of 12 stars around her head, she is with child and screams in birth pain. Satan manages to cast 1/3rd of the stars down to Earth. Then he seeks to devour the boy child as soon as it is born, but instead it is taken up to Heaven where he sits down beside Jesus just as Jesus once sat down beside his Father. Then there is the Great War in Heaven where the old Dragon is cast out and down to the Earth and the mother of the King-child is chased out into the wilderness where God has prepared an escape flight and a hidingplace for her. After that the beasts are summoned and a terrible law is inforced. Those 144,000 virgins who are sealed with the Holy Spirit is then gathered on mount Zion where they sing a new song before the Lord. Then the judgement is proclaimed, fulfilled and in the end the Millennium King returns, kills the beasts and Satan is imprisoned for 1000 years, so he will not bother the Father on his Sabbath, and not be in the way for the humans and God. After the Millennium there is a great war, called the Gog-Magog war that will be ended when God casts down fire on the Earth. Satan is cast into the Lake of Fire and the final Judgement is completed with the judging of the quick and the dead. The wicked is cast into the Lake of Fire and also Hades is cast into the Lake of Fire. Then God creates everything new: A new Heaven and a new Earth. And what do you know, even a New Jerusalem. A great city that is built in space without hands of men of unspeekable dimentions where the holy ones will live together with God and the Lamb eternally. Amen.

Blessings,
Mikromarius

Originally posted by f16falcon
i dunno i was readin some stuff and it's some scary stuff, do you guys have any idea who the moabites, babylonians, assyrians(just to name a few) are in our modern day world??

well you could call the iraqis babylonians

Originally posted by KrazyIvan

Originally posted by f16falcon
i dunno i was readin some stuff and it's some scary stuff, do you guys have any idea who the moabites, babylonians, assyrians(just to name a few) are in our modern day world??

well you could call the iraqis babylonians

well in revelations it says that babylon rests on 7 hills, the only city in the world that rests on 7 hills is Rome, so many ppl including myself, believes that the EU is probably babylon

It is said that the Antichrist will reveal himself at the same time of the two prophets of the old testament ...Elijah(Elias) and Enoch......these are the two prophets who did not die but were pleasing to God and will return to warn mankind of the Antichrist...they have the authority to controll the weather ........It is said that Elijah will go to Jerusalem to tell the Jews of the Antichrist and warn them.....

Solomons Temple will be rebuilt .....The Mosque of Omar stands in that place and it has cracks through the walls ......in order for Solomons Temple to be rebuilt the Mosque will have to go.....and the Fighting in Jerusalem that goes on in modern day is about the Jews gaining authority in around that area of where the Mosque stands!
There are lots of signs given to us through prophecy and the New Testament but the order of these signs are not given.......
Many of the signs are weather changes all over the world...
Miracles occuring in the air.....U.F.O'S are one of many signs that occur in the air...
The straying away from the truth of Christian beliefs .....and modern ways of Christianity is another....changing the Gospel to suit the people .....
It will be like the days of Noah......people will not believe the end is soon ......
Prophecy also speaks of war breaking out involving Russia and Turkey........

It is not a matter of just knowing that the world will end but to be spiritually ready for it!

That people somehow compare the Antichrist to a lamb is rediculous. He has two horns. A lamb has also got two horns. That's the only thing that connects the Antichrist with a lamb. Besides when did ever lambs have horns? What kind of lamb are we talking about here? Like Jesus and the two witnesses. What would be the opposite from witnessing and rightiousness? The anti of that? Lying and plotting against God and humanity of course. The AC will introduce a law or an annual tradition the people will have to follow in order to being able to buy and sell which is impoossible to follow if you are a follower of Jesus of Nazareth. He lies and accuses falsely. And he's on every TV screen in the world and and has the power to use nuclear weapons if "necessary". Sounds familiar? Anyone?

Blessings,
Mikromarius

Who compared him to a lamb? Did I miss something?