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Originally posted by f16falcon
I always get lost on the sequence of events that will occur in the end times invovling the beast anti christ armageddon bowls of wrath etc etc can some one please try to give me the sequence thanks
Originally posted by mikromarius
As I see it the Book of Revelation is built on several levels. The seals, the trumpets and the vials are three periods in world history. I believe we are currently living in the "Age of Alarms" if you like. If the sixth trumpet hasn't yet been blown, it will be soon. This I call the third World War.
Before the first trumpet is blown an angel cast down fire from the altar of God to Earth: the wisdom of nuclear energy is let down to man. Man starts experimenting with Radium, Uranium etc.:
Revelation 8:5�And the angel took the censer, and filled it with fire of the altar, and cast it into the earth: and there were voices, and thunderings, and lightnings, and an earthquake. 6�And the seven angels which had the seven trumpets prepared themselves to sound.
Then comes the first World War with the first airstrikes, aeroplanes carrying bombs:
Rev 8:7�The first angel sounded, and there followed hail and fire mingled with blood, and they were cast upon the earth: and the third part of trees was burnt up, and all green grass was burnt up.
World War 2 with 1/3rd of all ships sunk and the atomic attack on Japan. In Hiroshima, 1/3rd of the population was blown away:
Rev 8:8�And the second angel sounded, and as it were a great mountain burning with fire was cast into the sea: and the third part of the sea became blood; 9�And the third part of the creatures which were in the sea, and had life, died; and the third part of the ships were destroyed.
Chernobyl or Chornobyl means wormwood in Ukrainian. Chernobyl lies in Ukrainia. The ashes from the blast was brought by the wind over vast areas. Many people died from contaminated water etc.:
Rev 8:10�And the third angel sounded, and there fell a great star from heaven, burning as it were a lamp, and it fell upon the third part of the rivers, and upon the fountains of waters; 11�And the name of the star is called Wormwood: and the third part of the waters became wormwood; and many men died of the waters, because they were made bitter.
When Internet came, so did pornography and other kinds of immorality. Many of the children (stars), and parents (Sun and Moon) were morally darkened. And truth (light) is darkened. Many book carrying holy men's names surface and many of them are false:
Rev 8:12�And the fourth angel sounded, and the third part of the sun was smitten, and the third part of the moon, and the third part of the stars; so as the third part of them was darkened, and the day shone not for a third part of it, and the night likewise.
Then there are many candidates to whom/what the eagle in the next verse is:
Rev 8:13�And I beheld, and heard an angel flying through the midst of heaven, saying with a loud voice, Woe, woe, woe, to the inhabiters of the earth by reason of the other voices of the trumpet of the three angels, which are yet to sound!
Before the Golf War.... The fifth trumpet is like a step by step description of the five month long Gulf War: Burning oil wells which smoke turned day into night, sworms of American Apache Helicopters coming out of the thick smoke, humiliation of the Iraqi troops. And it's all becoming really ironic when you get to know that Saddam means Destroyer:
1�And the fifth angel sounded, and I saw a star fall from heaven unto the earth: and to him was given the key of the bottomless pit. 2�And he opened the bottomless pit; and there arose a smoke out of the pit, as the smoke of a great furnace; and the sun and the air were darkened by reason of the smoke of the pit. 3�And there came out of the smoke locusts upon the earth: and unto them was given power, as the scorpions of the earth have power. 4�And it was commanded them that they should not hurt the grass of the earth, neither any green thing, neither any tree; but only those men which have not the seal of God in their foreheads. 5�And to them it was given that they should not kill them, but that they should be tormented five months: and their torment was as the torment of a scorpion, when he striketh a man. 6�And in those days shall men seek death, and shall not find it; and shall desire to die, and death shall flee from them. 7�And the shapes of the locusts were like unto horses prepared unto battle; and on their heads were as it were crowns like gold, and their faces were as the faces of men. 8�And they had hair as the hair of women, and their teeth were as the teeth of lions. 9�And they had breastplates, as it were breastplates of iron; and the sound of their wings was as the sound of chariots of many horses running to battle. 10�And they had tails like unto scorpions, and there were stings in their tails: and their power was to hurt men five months. 11�And they had a king over them, which is the angel of the bottomless pit, whose name in the Hebrew tongue is Abaddon, but in the Greek tongue hath his name Apollyon. 12�One woe is past; and, behold, there come two woes more hereafter.
Then we are where we are now. At the second woe. Is it the War Against Terror? If so this war will become the most terrible war man has ever seen: 1/3rd of the people in the world will perish, but even so people does not stop to worship art, medicine, killing and immorality. 200 million troops will fight in this war. A mighty Angel steps down from Heaven who declares that time is up and delivers a bittersweet prophetic message to the people of the Earth. Then the Temple seems to have been rebuilt and it also seems like at least one of the mosqs will still be standing in the outer courtyard, when two prophets who is likened with the two lightstands and the two olive trees that stand before God shall bear witness. They are able to hold back the rain and make the sea red as blood. They can also stike the Earth will every disaster. They are eventually killed after their ministry of 1260 days in a war that will reveil the identity of the beast that comes up of the pit of death who will accuse them in the spiritual city called Sodom and Egypt, where also Jesus was accused. This trial and execution will bring about great joy among the people of the world, they will party and exchange gifts, for the two prophets had caused much distress. They will not be allowed to be buried, something which is terrible for a Muslim or a Jew. They returt to life after having spent three and a half day in Hades where noone can hold anything against them. They rise up on their feet and walks up into Heaven like Jesus did 2000 years ago. At this time there is a great earthquake that destroys one tehth of the city and 7000 people is killed. Those who remain praises God and give him the honour.
The seventh trumpet is when Jesus reaches the state of God and his king shall rule with a staff of metal. Jesus' enemies are now layed down like a footstool, and this is celebrated in Heaven. Judgement can start: First Jesus orders his kingship to be established, and a woman who's standing on the Moon, dressed in the Sun and with a crown of 12 stars around her head, she is with child and screams in birth pain. Satan manages to cast 1/3rd of the stars down to Earth. Then he seeks to devour the boy child as soon as it is born, but instead it is taken up to Heaven where he sits down beside Jesus just as Jesus once sat down beside his Father. Then there is the Great War in Heaven where the old Dragon is cast out and down to the Earth and the mother of the King-child is chased out into the wilderness where God has prepared an escape flight and a hidingplace for her. After that the beasts are summoned and a terrible law is inforced. Those 144,000 virgins who are sealed with the Holy Spirit is then gathered on mount Zion where they sing a new song before the Lord. Then the judgement is proclaimed, fulfilled and in the end the Millennium King returns, kills the beasts and Satan is imprisoned for 1000 years, so he will not bother the Father on his Sabbath, and not be in the way for the humans and God. After the Millennium there is a great war, called the Gog-Magog war that will be ended when God casts down fire on the Earth. Satan is cast into the Lake of Fire and the final Judgement is completed with the judging of the quick and the dead. The wicked is cast into the Lake of Fire and also Hades is cast into the Lake of Fire. Then God creates everything new: A new Heaven and a new Earth. And what do you know, even a New Jerusalem. A great city that is built in space without hands of men of unspeekable dimentions where the holy ones will live together with God and the Lamb eternally. Amen.
Blessings,
Mikromarius
Originally posted by KrazyIvan
the third world war doesnt mean that itll be fought with nuclear weapons. the third world war could of been a soviet invasion of the west. or a chinees invasion of tiwan or a north korean invasion of the south. it dont mean the end of the world
Originally posted by Gazrok
is that a book supposedly dictated by God...would only concern itself with the events happening around the small area in which it was written...(i.e. always describing Palestine, Isreal, etc., but never the Americas). Could it be because it wasn't dictated at all, but simply written by man? Umm....Yep!
Originally posted by f16falcon
actually many people believe that people of american and UK/commonwealth descent are the israelites or judeans(can't remember which) that are part of the 12 tribes
Originally posted by mikromarius
Originally posted by KrazyIvan
the third world war doesnt mean that itll be fought with nuclear weapons. the third world war could of been a soviet invasion of the west. or a chinees invasion of tiwan or a north korean invasion of the south. it dont mean the end of the world
It means the end of the world as we know it. 1/3rd of the world's population will be killed. The world is not gonna be the same again after that.
Blessings,
Mikromarius
Originally posted by DaRAGE
2 billion people will die.
Well 1/3rd of the human race will die.
It'll be nuclear and that will destroy a bit. the rest will be conventional. Armies of 200 million people in total. THAT is a huge mutha of a war.
Originally posted by DaRAGE
2 billion people will die.
Well 1/3rd of the human race will die.
It'll be nuclear and that will destroy a bit. the rest will be conventional. Armies of 200 million people in total. THAT is a huge mutha of a war.
Originally posted by f16falcon
we all know that the only country that can muster 200 million ppl in an army is china, so watch out
Originally posted by Thomas Crowne
That is the way I see it, Mike, blue being the New Roman Empire, which is basically the West, possibly excluding North America (I know Americans can't imagine a world without the U.S. deeply involved in, but I think the U.S. is going to be severely crippled by that time).
Originally posted by helen670
and both disrespect and lawlessness will~ increase. Then we will not recognize the world.
The appearances of people will change,
and one will not be able to tell the difference between men and women because of their,
shameful way of dressing and their hairstyles.
Parents will not be respected, nor will the elderly. :~ Love will disappear.
Christian leaders, archpriests and priests will be vain man [with only few exceptions]
totally ignorant of what is right and what is wrong
and then all the tradition of the Church and of the Christian people will change.