Who you gonna call?

Cool catch and thanks for posting it.

Maybe mundane ... but maybe not and either way it looks like something I saw melt into a floor with my own eyes in a "haunted house."

I'd guess it's a blob of whatever we turn into without our meat suits OR a herd of lightening bugs.

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Book shelves on the right and fire place on the left!

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I guess I was going for, is there anything reflective on the shelves?

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could be those pesky shiny books? !!

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Ok ok just wondering seeing as how it is not unknown to put other objects on shelves.



































Swamp gas. Nuff said.

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I'm not trying to prove it is anything to be honest, just replying honestly

Check my signature, I'm as sceptical as they come

Again tho, the room is on the 3rd floor of a city building in a VERY busy main road, which I doubt sees more than 30 seconds without a car on it, even during the early hours of the morning.

If it were lights being shined in and reflected off something shiny, we'd surely see these every few seconds? The camera has been set up for over a week and this is the first time the motion sensor has kicked in and sent us back an image.

I'm not trying to convince anyone, I'm just telling it like it is and can't wait to see if we get more!

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Guys if this is convincing evidence then i see no merit in this phenomenon. It is a flash of light, even if it isnt lense flare there are many more down to earth explanations it can be. Dont ever jump right to paranormal. Keep an open mind but dont let your brains fall out.

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Motion sensors detect changes in infrared. A bright light shining through the window from a passing car's reflection of the light of the sun could trigger the motion sensor.

Is the window to the right ground level? The edges of the window appear to be lit up. Maybe a car headlight?? If not, great catch!

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Maybe mundane ... but maybe not and either way it looks like something I saw melt into a floor with my own eyes in a "haunted house."

I would ..

SERIOUSLY like to hear the details on this .. Plz with an ATS star on top pretty plz ? LOL

Beavers
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I'm not trying to prove it is anything to be honest, just replying honestly

Check my signature, I'm as sceptical as they come

Again tho, the room is on the 3rd floor of a city building in a VERY busy main road, which I doubt sees more than 30 seconds without a car on it, even during the early hours of the morning.

If it were lights being shined in and reflected off something shiny, we'd surely see these every few seconds? The camera has been set up for over a week and this is the first time the motion sensor has kicked in and sent us back an image.

I'm not trying to convince anyone, I'm just telling it like it is and can't wait to see if we get more!

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I'm gonna tells it like I sees it....plain and simple ...

it's a spirit .. and a hellva catch it is.. now you know what it is.. do you have the stones to go back up there and do a EVP? LOL .. I ..........might ...have the stones..I'm hesitant since spirits can and DO go through solid objects and knowing my luck a freaking dark man /shadow man would appear and well.. I'd be suffering in the hospital from jumping out the 3rd story window LOL ..

and if it was me.. I would totally say .. "YEP .. ghosts are resident here..got it! ..that's a wrap !" and I rip the damm camera out and ever go back LOL .. but that's just me..cuz' of all the hair raising 'stuff' in my life ..

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Guys if this is convincing evidence then i see no merit in this phenomenon. It is a flash of light, even if it isnt lense flare there are many more down to earth explanations it can be. Dont ever jump right to paranormal. Keep an open mind but dont let your brains fall out.

right well.. I always jump straight to the paranormal on this stuff.. because .. well.. IT IS, given the environment that it taken in .. !!
well.. so far.. the OP has ruled out car headlights being on the 3rd floor..

care to start a list of things this is ? or perhaps .. things that it's not might be a better start..

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It seems to have it's own light source, so I'd say you got yourself a spirit flipping around in there!

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I don't mean to be a buzz-kill here, but that looks very clearly to me like glare from a light passing into the field of view. If I were to bet, a car drove by and the light from the headlights shown through the window to create this effect.

Motion detection is simply looking for a change in light, hence my explanation. The blur on the light is indicative of the light coming into the frame quickly, as would happen as a car's headlights point directly into the window while turning.

If I see the window correctly, it looks to be on the same horizontal plane as the light smear, which means, really any light source could explain this; Lightning could also be a good explanation.

So a few corrections or explanations on motion detectors and what this light source may be.

Most motion detectors are PIR or Passive Infrared Sensors, this means what they are really looking for is changes in ambient heat. Depending on how they are calibrated, they can be sensitive enough that a fax machine or printer will set them off, or programmed to ignored any objects of certain dimensions usually expressed as weight, like check this box to ignore dogs < 60 lbs. I am simply going to assume this is not a dual tech motion detector that uses both microwave and infrared to confirm a detection, while not sold every day off the shelf, they are common use for high tech locations that have a lot of electronics or in high wind type environments where AC units or heaters kick on and trip standard PIR detectors.

Moving on, we can talk about the camera, if the lights were off and it was night time, then the camera was operating in low lux mode, meaning that any light sources will more than likely be blurred, distorted, and over exposed.

I spent 12 years as an integration systems specialist and Ive worked for DoD and several private companies and have been part of many professional investigations into this kind of stuff.

What I see there looks like a reflection of a helicopter search light. You can clearly see the circular nature of the light source off the reflection from the wall, the blurring likely comes from inadequacy in back lighting. The light would have needed to be focused for at least a few seconds to be able to make a change in the background ambient temperature to trip the PIR. Meaning that it was not jsut a passing by but a search light that would have been focused on a target for at least a few seconds.


You can look at the bottom of the image and see distortion, was this a digital megapixel image, or an analogue source? I ask this because you can see the "Lens flare" that is coming off the stacked objects at the bottom of the frame, this occurs when the camera is taking an over exposed image, it can not compensate for the extremely bright light sources as well as the added reflection of light coming off of the sharp edged objects so you get those lines coming off them. Do the objects in the bottom of the frame have a semi reflective trim on the top edge?

The only thing I see here that makes me go, WOW what is that.... is the fact the light sources is all "bendy" it is not a soild sharp line I don't have any past experience to draw on to account for that.

In red I have outlined the likely shape of the orginal source, the circular light splash on the back wall.

In blue at the bottom I highlighted the flares that you get when a camera is having issues compensating for diverse light sources.

In green you see a location where a metal surface is illuminated suggesting that the room was filled with light and you can look at the angle of the flares on that object to see the light source is coming from the "bookshelf" side again suggestion light reflection.



Additionally you can see that the light sources are more intense on the book shelf side of the image, especially along the floor, again, indicating an external source, not an internal one. Adding that to the fact it is indeed coming from a window and you can safely conclude this is an external light source.

Another thing I'd like to add is that it was mentioned this location is an old building.


How old is the glass in those windows? Is it distorted, dirty, or possibly installed at a less that perpendicular angle? Old glass is not as structurally pure as new glass there will be inconsistent layering in most glass made before 1940 which could account for the "Bendy" nature of the light I was commenting on earlier.


For those who are saying the object is "emitting its own light" I ask, why are there shadows cast in the lower frame constant with the angle of the light source, and consistent with the angle of reflection off the wall, yet there are no such bright spots on the ceiling, if the object in question was emitting its own light then we would expect to see even shadows throughout the room, light on the ceiling, and the flares coming off the objects in the bottom of the frame (stacks of records?) would appear towards the camera, not perpendicular as they are in the image also those records are likely covered in a high gloss finish, making them reflective at every angle even if only slightly.

It certainly is a good image, one of the more convincing ones I've seen at a glance, but upon closer inspection I see enough predictable information in the frame to give this an 80% chance of simply being a strong external light source, versus a moving cloud of energy producing enough photons to cast directional shadows in a room.

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All righty, when living in a house I later found out had a suicide in it there were many paranormal events. Objects being moved and broken, dogs freaking out and growling at nothing, a feeling of weirdness, knocks and thumps, vivid, recurring dreams were I spoke to some man but couldn't remember the details, little blurry things that ran around the rooms but you could only spot with peripheral vision and an odd many-week-long instance of acting in a strange manner almost as if some other intelligence was influencing me.

Then one evening my friends and I (5 of us) were in the living room watching a movie and saw moving, flickering blue, yellow and orange light erupt from the adjoining kitchen.

We rushed in ( I thought there was a fire) ... but we all saw a scintillating, multi colored blob of light moving around the center of the kitchen (like the photo in the OP) and then "settle" into a pillar, or pedestal shape with an oval top that slowly sank/melted into the floor... leaving only darkness and stunned witnesses.

I tried everything to explain it... weather, wiring... but barring some ball lightening showing up in my kitchen on a clear day, coupled with the fact it was oblong while floating in the air and then settled into that pedestal shape, I was, and am, at a loss explaining it in any other way but what's thought of as "paranormal," though I'm open to it being somehow 'mundane."

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I spent 12 years as an integration systems specialist and Ive worked for DoD and several private companies and have been part of many professional investigations into this kind of stuff.

I've spent over 50 years living with a ghost, which led to me investigating them.

What I see there looks like a reflection of a helicopter search light. You can clearly see the circular nature of the light source off the reflection from the wall, the blurring likely comes from inadequacy in back lighting. The light would have needed to be focused for at least a few seconds to be able to make a change in the background ambient temperature to trip the PIR. Meaning that it was not jsut a passing by but a search light that would have been focused on a target for at least a few seconds.

Why not consider the reflection on the wall and metal to be coming from the light source the spirit is giving off?
Could work both ways.

The only thing I see here that makes me go, WOW what is that.... is the fact the light sources is all "bendy" it is not a soild sharp line I don't have any past experience to draw on to account for that.

That's because it's a spirit.

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I feel the creeps looking at that photo that looks exactly the same as 1 episode in outer limits.
Why is it only in black & white & greys?
How come all sharp edges are blurred?
What time of the day was it?
What makes you so sure it's a ghost?
Can you not make the photo larger?
If not, why?
It looks grainy as a thumb-nail photo that has already been enlarged & grainy as an old black & white photo/film...can you explain?
That does not look like any ghost or spirit I've ever see in photos, on film or even a rendition, kind of like the torch guy in fantastic 4 the movie, a flamey super hero shape, & solid?
For now? I'm calling hoax...........

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I feel the creeps looking at that photo that looks exactly the same as 1 episode in outer limits.
Why is it only in black & white & greys?
How come all sharp edges are blurred?
What time of the day was it?
What makes you so sure it's a ghost?
Can you not make the photo larger?
If not, why?
It looks grainy as a thumb-nail photo that has already been enlarged & grainy as an old black & white photo/film...can you explain?
That does not look like any ghost or spirit I've ever see in photos, on film or even a rendition, kind of like the torch guy in fantastic 4 the movie, a flamey super hero shape, & solid?
For now? I'm calling hoax...........

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I'm sorry thebeavers......those were meant for op