National School Safety Expert: Sandy Hook shooting was a fraud

a reply to: spirited75

And where did you get this list, because that was never officially released.

originally posted by: Sremmos80
And where did you get this list, because that was never officially released.

It was released and it's been in MANY newspapers and publications around the country. It's an accurate list of the dead.

Huffington Post - Sandy Hook Shooting Victims Names Released - December 2012

On Saturday, the Connecticut State Police released a list of the names of the 26 victims who were shot and killed at a Connecticut elementary school.

The victims are 12 girls, eight boys and six adult women. The victims, police said, were shot up close, multiple times.

The following is a list (as released by police) of the victims in Friday's shooting spree on the campus of Sandy Hook Elementary School in Newtown

a reply to: FlyersFan

Was it in the final report? Isn't that the end all source when it comes to SH?

I am sure you remember when the media put the wrong picture of one of the kids, simple mistake I guess, maybe they got some of the names wrong too in their media frenzy to release things.
Hence why the final report is the horse's mouth here.
I even think you have mentioned how bad the media reporting was and how unreliable of a source they can be

a reply to: Sremmos80

from the official list releaser a
few days after the shooting.

who do you think you are anyway?
Godzilla of the SH Massacre???

a reply to: spirited75

Godzilla
Your SS death date just sounds like something that comes from BIN, I notice this whole time you failed to link a single thing, even let some one else find a source of the list of the names that is out there.



Raawrr

a reply to: Sremmos80

www.huffingtonpost.com...

chemtrailsplanet.net...

www.wptv.com...

I cant believe this thread is still going....credit to the few individuals who have trolled it along this far, without backing up anything theyve said.

You are a true testament to you troll-kind.

a reply to: captaintyinknots

a reply to: captaintyinknots

Believe it, some really good stuff in previous post, all sourced from the final report, linked into the post and all.

Which again is my entire point to you spirtied, I am aware of the list of names that was initially sent out. Since then, the names have been redacted in everything released.
My point to you is that your SSN death index is just a distraction and isn't the smoking gun by far. All the info with the minor victims is locked under lock and key, I am sure they would have some state excuses as to why their names don't show up in the index.
Their death certs don't even have to be released, why would their name's be req to show up in the SSN index?

a reply to: Sremmos80

got
it

Dickenson Drive was blocked, very quickly, by both parents and state troopers flooding to the scene.

To Newtown PD's credit, none of their vehicles seem to be the problem.

FBI Dir. Comey stated last week that lives were saved at Faifield High by having identified problems at Sandy Hook--and the problem he specifically referenced was the failure of responding agencies to take command of keeping the ambulance routes clear.

In addition, there seems to be a gap between when the first ambulances left with patients (one ambulance had to double up), and before regional replacement rigs arrived. Unfortunately, that gap may be as long as half an hour.

In light of this new information, we must reexamine the claim that all 24 injured victims remaining inside the school were 100% beyond help.

a reply to: cantonear1968
Under the sub-titles of Full Disclosure, Eating A Little Crow and Be Careful What You Wish For, in answer to the question I posed, it appears Mr. Halbig and Jim "Mad Dog" Fetzer actually did visit Newtown:

www.veteranstoday.com...

And covered by the local newspaper:

www.ctpost.com...-6267855

So while my cynicism has me concluding their actions are more sensationalistic than any real investigative worth, I will give them credit for actually going to the town. I believe this should have been done before decrying that it was "Faked!", but they did go there instead of commenting from their basements, as most conspiracy theorists seem to do [not directed at anyone in particular here].

As I have come to learn, however, as with most CT's, there are several different stories/factions one can adhere to. My biggest beef was those that claimed the entire shooting was faked and never occurred. And how could one do this without actually visiting the town??!! But even this did not slow down Halbig and "Mad Dog", falling back on the tried and true "they're all in on it" when no evidence is apparent.

Oh well. I will at least accept that some one actually did what I was accusing them of not doing. Mea Culpa!

a reply to: JudgeEden

The ring around rosie your talking about was going on at the fire station, not the school.

And asking for footage of adam seems to be a dead end, seems this was one of the only schools in the nation that doesn't have the ability to record what is happening anywhere.
Which I agree sounds impossible, but at this point there is nothing to say that wasn't the case.

a reply to: Sremmos80

Oh, okay, thanks for correcting me on that. My point still stands.

originally posted by: Sremmos80
a reply to: JudgeEden

The ring around rosie your talking about was going on at the fire station, not the school.

And asking for footage of adam seems to be a dead end, seems this was one of the only schools in the nation that doesn't have the ability to record what is happening anywhere.
Which I agree sounds impossible, but at this point there is nothing to say that wasn't the case.

That's simply an outright lie. More schools do not have cameras, in my experience (which is extensive, considering my job used to be working in schools), than do.

a reply to: captaintyinknots

More of an embellishment then a lie, I did say seems to be

I still find it hard to believe that in CT that more school's do not have camera's then do.
Sorry I can't just take your word for it, as you would never take mine for anything
They must never get sued, as the camera's are always utilized when the school is in any type of legal trouble.
Lots happen at schools, as you well know I am sure

originally posted by: Metallicus
Why is this in the Ludicrous Online Lies? The whole point of this forum is to deny ignorance. We can't even discuss a topic that has a lot of interest based on the flags and stars. There are a lot of questions that simply haven't been answered.

I really don't comprehend why as site like this is so afraid of this particular topic.

Anyway, I don't pay to be here so they can do what they want, but I still disagree with the site owners on this one particular issue. There are simply too many problems with the official story.

You do pay to be on here. You provide content to ATS, which they reserve nonexclusive rights to, and use to generate money via ads, ads which you are required to view via the TOS of the site (In other words, you can't use ad blocker without violating their rules...)

If you split up the cost of running this site, into the number of members on here, I have no doubt the amount of money your content has provided far outweighs your share of the site's running cost.

You are paying for a forum with your content. No different than paying for a candy bar with a dollar bill in reality. Except you know you aren't getting anything for free when you buy a candy bar. When you buy time on this forum with your content you've been tricked into thinking you are getting something for free, you the scrounging member, so thankful to the generous owners who allowed you use of this forum out of the goodness of their hearts.

I question why false-flag claims of 9/11 are not seen as insulting to the victims, but false-flag claims of Sandy Hook are. Always beware of double standards and hypocrisy wherever you see it, as there is never anything positive at their root.

I wonder how long this post will last?

a reply to: James1982

The thing is, nobody claims people didnt die on 9/11. There is rarely a thread about Sandy Hook that doesnt make that claim.

Ive said it before, and Ill say it again: its the people that couldnt discuss this topic responsibly that forced the site to take the stance they have.

I fully believe there is more to the story than we have been told. I think it is highly likely there was a second shooter. But the tabloid style accusations and baseless claims about the victims and innocent participants on these topics is appalling.