The JFK Assassination---The Roles of Masons and Royalists---50 years is long enough

reply to post by MagnumOpus

This post is the 300th reply on the thread, and you still haven't answered the users questions. I believe that may be a new record.
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reply to post by MagnumOpus


Wow you sure know how to be hypocritical don't you.

reply to post by Sauron


It specifically tells that Reagan has the Title of Scottish Rite Mason. Which means Reagan is recognized by high council Masons as a Mason.


Simple enough. imho It is established in the language of high level Masons that Reagan has the title of Mason. Period!


Now----you all can go through 40 million pages of this non-sense or just let the discussion move on to deal with the main title. Else your objective is to Stop the further development of the threads issues. imho


Which isn't about the ATS issue of exposing ending ignorance.

Plus, it appears that as a Moderator that you have a bias and one that ignores the very obvious term that Reagan as the title of Mason.

You are ignoring the very published wording of some of the highest Masons in the Mason gang.

Which shows that you are being extreme. imho

KSigMason

 

I'm a Past Master and current Worshipful Master of my home Lodge. I've presided over a Royal Arch Chapter, Cryptic Masons Council, and Commandery of Knights Templar. I'm also Worthy Patron of my Eastern Star Chapter. I'm an officer in my Scottish Rite Valley. I'm a Grand officer for the Grand Chapter and Grand Council. I'm an officer in the Knight Masons, Red Cross of Constantine, and York Rite College. I'm a member of the Grand College of Rites, Sovereign Order of the Knights Preceptor, Order of the Sword of Bunker HIll, the Royal Order of Scotland, and the Commemorative Order of Saint Thomas of Acon. I'm also a member of a Lodge of Research, Asylum of Research out of Ohio, and the Virginia Priory of Research. I've also been approached about joining a College of the Societas Rosicruciana in Civitatibus Foederatis. I also have been asked to step up as Secretary for the NW Quadrant of the York Rite Association. I think that is all of them...sometimes I forget all the groups I belong to.

holy smokes, I'd hate to have to introduce you at dinner

reply to post by MagnumOpus


Take your own advice dude here I will remind you.

"That isn't proof of anything-----you could have photoshoped everything. Proof isn't a web page, isn't any picture that isn't certifed as evidence.

Such is worthless. "

Maybe just maybe the links and sites you show us all as proof are just BSing and you fell for it.

MagnumOpus
reply to post by Sauron

 

It specifically tells that Reagan as the Title of Scottish Rite Mason. Which means Reagan is recognized by high council Masons as a Mason.
Simple enough. imho

No, it does not, it says quote "He was conferred the title of Honorary Scottish Rite Mason"


You do know what honorary means don't you. He did not have a membership card, he was given a token as a thank you.




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don't forget

Name the Lodge and date Arlen Specter was made a Mason.

Name the Lodge and date Ronald Regan was made a Mason

reply to post by boymonkey74


Then---since we are not dealing with Proofs and we are dealing with discussions, then let the discussions move on and stop the obvious extreme nonsense.

Proofs cannot be provided on ATS----period. But areas for discussion and investigations by others reading the threat can take the information and read further and make up their own minds and by so doing end a great deal of ignorance-----which is the prime ATS mission to which this Mason Proof game seeks to interfere and derail. imho

Let the discussion proceed and stop the run around and ignoring the obvious language well in evidence.

Sauron

MagnumOpus
reply to post by Sauron

 

It specifically tells that Reagan as the Title of Scottish Rite Mason. Which means Reagan is recognized by high council Masons as a Mason.
Simple enough. imho

No, it does not, it says quote "He was conferred the title of Honorary Scottish Rite Mason"


You do know what honorary means don't you. He did not have a membership card, he was given a token as a thank you.

edit on 8/1/2014 by Sauron because: (no reason given)

The key word is he was given the "title" "Mason". All the rest doesn't really mean anything, as I only asserted title Mason.

Thus, I am fully vindicated by those two words being a reality. imho


For the purpose of discussions that is sufficient affirmation that Reagan's title was Mason.

MagnumOpus
Simple enough. imho It is established in the language of high level Masons that Reagan has the title of Mason. Period!

But it is established in the English language with your own source that he is not:

Ronald Reagan has often been referred to as a Freemason. President Reagan is not a Freemason although he is an honorary member of the Imperial Council of the Shrine. President Reagan has on numerous occasions been involved in Shrine and masonic functions throughout his career.

Why do you ignore your own source?

reply to post by MagnumOpus


No you have made wild claims all through the thread, now back them up. If you can't provide this whats the point.

You might find Ickes site more suited to your needs, don't need proof over there. Here you do before you will be taken seriously

Now

Name the Lodge and date Arlen Specter was made a Mason.

Name the Lodge and date Ronald Regan was made a Mason

reply to post by MagnumOpus


Yes but you have been shown by various members that you are wrong, members who know much more about the subject than yourself, you have just read a few websites and have taken the stuff as fact, you have ignored members repeated requests to back up your claims and we are supposed to take you seriously?.
I want to thank the Masons who have posted on this board because they have taught me more about themselves.
OP know when you are wrong and be big enough to admit it, stop digging this massive hole you have dug yourself into.
Iam out I suggest this thread be moved to the appropriate forum.
Bye.

reply to post by Sauron


For the purpose of discussion----there are references to the terms provided------and this is a discussion list------not a court of law. imho

You are not a judge------and ATS is a discussion list.


The various sources for the allegations of Reagan having a title of Mason and Spector being a Mason have been referenced for the discussion, and nobody can make proofs on ATS, only make discussions. Most of the discussion sourced links are derived from Mason originated claims from the two sources.

So, you are out of order for continually demanding proofs for simple discussions. imho

MagnumOpus
and ATS is a discussion list.

But it is not your own private forum where you get to post lies and untruths and expect to get away with it.

This is the Big Leagues.

The only fact one needs to know on which side RR was in terms of fascism, who nominated George Herbert Walker Bush as his Vice President?

reply to post by AugustusMasonicus


Not really----it is a discussion list------folks post various opinions all the time. Such is the purpose of a discussion list.

Folks get to read more on the opinions stated, as they see fit or are interested.

Reagan was linked with Hungary and that issue linked with Communism and being called a Mason by various sources. I found the title did have support via the stated links. Which isn't proof---only showing the source material for the comment and opinion.

Such is how all discussion forums work. imho

Simple enough------all ATS works on the same criteria and everyone is only a member and the idea is to share ideas in openness and by so doing those sharing of opinions to deny ignorance.

As such, I engage in the ATS membership just as many others do daily. imho

Stackpot
The only fact one needs to know on which side RR was in terms of fascism, who nominated George Herbert Walker Bush as his Vice President?

Excellent question and highly on topic. I'll check and see.

MagnumOpus
Folks get to read more on the opinions stated, as they see fit or are interested.

False. You are claiming Reagan and Specter were Masons as fact when they were not. Your entire Original Post falls apart when your own source says Reagan was not a Mason. None of this was ever stated as your opinion.

reply to post by MagnumOpus


No we are not going to pretend Regan and Specter are Freemasons slash Mason, just so you can defame / slander the Freemasons of the world.


Can you OR can you not do this?

Name the Lodge and date Arlen Specter was made a Mason.

Name the Lodge and date Ronald Regan was made a Mason

AugustusMasonicus

MagnumOpus
Folks get to read more on the opinions stated, as they see fit or are interested.

False. You are claiming Reagan and Specter were Masons as fact when they were not. Your entire Original Post falls apart when your own source says Reagan was not a Mason. None of this was ever stated as your opinion.

False! On every one of my listings it is made abundantly clear that In My Humble Opinion, aka imho, being shown everywhere.


If you want to believe Reagan was not a Mason---do so. If I think Reagan has legit title of Mason, then I have the right to do so. imho

I personally think the claim in the article that Spector was a Mason is true, and I can have that opinion all I want to have it. imho

Spector's actions and games certainly fit his acts to cover up per the Magic Bullet non-sense------and I can have that opinion also.


And you can think Arlene is your daddy, or is jewish, or catholic, to what ever you want to imagine. imho

MagnumOpus
False! On every one of my listings it is made abundantly clear that In My Humble Opinion, aka imho, being shown everywhere.

Wrong! You are lying again. Here is your entire second post from Page 1 where you claim Reagan is a Mason, show us where in the post you state this is only your opinion:

Ronnie Reagan was a big Hollywood star for B-movies, but few remember important issues that Ronnie helped to hide on the JFK fact finding by Jim Garrision that would have shown LHO in a totally different light.

Ronnie spent the war years as the Curator for a Military Photo Collection in California of the Holocaust issues.

Ronnie, as Governor of California, blocked Jim Garrison's extradition of witnesses for the Clay Shaw / PERMINDEX trial.

Ronnie also sequestered all the PERMINDEX files in California to keep Jim Garrison from getting hold of those.

Plus, Ronnie was a big Certified Degree Mason and that tends to protect all the old Zionist temple themes and work for UK's Empire building, as the Masonic main temple is in London.

Most all the stuff that Ronnie tried to cover up was what caused the Berlin Wall to be erected in 13 Aug. 1961, right in the middle of JFK's early term. LHO played a role with PERMINDEX via the U-2 information leaks into Russia and Powers gets shot down 6 months after LHO gets there, via more powerful VN-750 missle.

Ronnie was a part of the problems that kept peace from happening between the US and Russia, and a huge part of the problems that allowed the US to slip into Fascism and remain there to this very day.



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The Berlin Wall was officially referred to as the "Anti-Fascist Protection Rampart" (German: Antifaschistischer Schutzwall) by GDR authorities.

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The Berlin Wall was a barrier constructed by the German Democratic Republic (GDR, East Germany) starting on 13 August 1961, that completely cut off (by land) West Berlin from surrounding East Germany and from East Berlin.[1]






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