Growing up unvaccinated: This is what happens when your parents refuse

Grimpachi
reply to post by ElectricUniverse

 

Or maybe we should have laws that increase their survivabilty in accidents.


Oh wait ..... We already do they are called seatbelts.


That's actually a great analogy. Seatbelts don't save everyone but your odds of surviving with one is greatly increased.

In fact there have been dozens of laws passed to increase the survivabilty from accidents.

Click it or ticket.




BTW nice attempt at a straw man however you didn't think it through and it shows.

Really? You want to claim that strapping a seatbelt is the same as allowing yourself to be injected with the toxic chemicals found in vaccines?... You are the one that didn't think it through...

BTW, even with seatbealts there is a great amount of people who die from car accidents, not to mention that many of those are people are are run over by cars/trucks. Didn't you know that there are also people who die BECAUSE of seatbelts?...

Here is an interesting article with some facts about the vaccine industry.

Apologies for the long post.

(NaturalNews)'s been only 70 years since World War II, and the mad scientists from companies like I.G. Farben, BASF, Hoechst, Dow and Bayer, who created the gas chambers and tested dangerous vaccines on innocent Jews, didn't just go away. In fact, they went to work for U.S. corporations and pharmaceutical companies that run the vaccine industry today. At least a dozen of these cold blooded killers were hired fresh out of prison, just 4 to 7 years after the Nuremberg trials found them guilty of mass murder and enslavement. (frank.mtsu.edu...)

In fact, at the close of WWII, the IG Farben building in Frankfort was protected from allied bombings by the highest levels of military command. Why? IG Farben was the FDA/CDC type of "pharmaceutical arm" of Hitler's 4th Reich, and the Rockefellers had a financial interest in maintaining and controlling this pharmaceutical empire, which would soon be catapulted on U.S. soil. Research reveals that Hitler also invested heavily in Merck and other pharmaceutical companies.


Nazi convicted mass murderers became executives for major U.S. chemical and pharmaceutical companies
Fritz ter Meer, found guilty of slavery and mass murder at Auschwitz, served only seven years in prison and became Chairman of the Board at Bayer in 1956. Still trust U.S. vaccines?

Carl Krauch, Executive Member of IG Farben and Head of Military Economics for Hitler, found guilty of slavery and mass murder, served just 6 years in prison, then became Chairman of the Board for BASF in 1952. Still want to get those flu shots? How about that HPV shot for your daughter or son?

This is the same vaccine industry today which protected and employed Nazi war criminals. The very industry that produced the Nazi gas chambers was purchased by Bayer. So, exactly whom are you trusting with your children's health and welfare?

Currently, the U.S. Government and the CDC rely solely on the manufacturers of vaccines to report problems, injuries and deaths. This atrocity is like letting murderers be their own judges in court! Where are the checks and balances this country was founded upon? Vaccines have economic and political agendas now, and the FDA does absolutely no testing of their own before making decisions to release vaccines to the masses.

Want more research before you or your child get injected with a new concocted disease for which there is no cure? Listen to stunning admissions by vaccine industry experts, including Dr. Maurice Hilleman (formerly w/Merck), who admitted to the deadly nature of the most trusted vaccines. (www.naturalnews.com...)

Today's vaccines not only contain live versions of the diseases you DO NOT WANT, but also contain GMOs, hormones from infected cows, pigs, chickens and monkeys, untested virus combinations (like H1N1), aluminum, mercury, emulsifiers, and crossbred bacteria from animals, mosquitoes, and diseased humans:

Measles Live Virus Vaccine: (Attenuvax) Made by Merck. Two injections are given; one at 1 year and another at 4 years old. Contains gelatin, sorbitol, sodium chloride, bovine cow serum, egg protein and human albumin.

Measles and Mumps Live Virus Vaccine: (M-M-Rvax) Made by Merck. Injected into one year old babies. Contains gelatin, sorbitol, sodium chloride, bovine cow serum, and human albumin.

Diptheria, Tetanus and Polio Vaccine: Five injections given between 2 and 6 years of age, plus boosters "recommended" every 10 years. Contains formaldehyde, phenoxyethanol and aluminum phosphate.

DTaP, IPV, HBV and Hib*: (Diphtheria, tetanus, polio, hepatitis B and Haemophilus influenza type B) Given to infants 2 to 12 months with boosters less than a year later. Contains aluminum hydroxide, formaldehyde, and bovine cow serum.

Gardasil HPV: Human Papillomavirus Vaccine Made by Merck. Administered to children as young as 9 years of age for a rare sexually transmitted disease. Contains polysorbate 80, sodium chloride, aluminum, and a "denatured" (fragmented and weakened) form of the virus.


Toxic vaccine ingredients and their adverse effects:
• Bovine cow serum: Extracted from cow skin. When injected causes connective tissue disorders, arthritis and lupus; also shortness of breath, low blood pressure, chest pain and skin reactions.

• Sorbitol: Synthetic sweetener which metabolizes very slowly and aggravates IBS and gastrointestinal issues.

• Gelatin: Derived from the collagen inside animals' skin and bones. Injecting gelatin poses the risk of infection from synthetic growth hormones and BSE infectivity (mad cow disease).

• Sodium chloride: Raises blood pressure and inhibits muscle contraction and growth.

• Egg protein: Vaccines are prepared in eggs (certainly not organic). May contain growth hormones, antibiotics, and salmonella bacteria.

• Thimerosal: A neurotoxic mercury which causes autism: There are 25 mcg in one average flu vaccine, and the EPA safety limit is 5 micrograms, so children who are vaccinated simultaneously with multiple* vaccines receive over 10 times the safety limit of mercury in one day.

• Human albumin: The protein portion of blood from pooled human venous plasma; when injected causes fever, chills, hives, rash, headache, nausea, breathing difficulty, and rapid heart rate. Injecting "pooled blood" can result in a loss of body cell mass and cause immunodeficiency virus infection, or contain SV40, AIDS, cancer or Hepatitis B from drug addicts.

• Formaldehyde: Highly carcinogenic fluid used to embalm corpses. Ranked one of the most hazardous compounds to human health; can cause liver damage, gastrointestinal issues, reproductive deformation, respiratory distress and cancer. Plus, formaldehyde has been known to fail to deactivate the virus the vaccine is intended to cure, thus enabling a live virus to enter your blood and infect your system.

• Phenoxyethanol: A glycol ether/chemical; highly toxic to the nervous system, kidneys, and liver. The FDA warns "can cause shut down of the central nervous system (CNS), vomiting and contact dermatitis" in cosmetics; imagine when injected into your blood.

• Aluminum phosphate: Greatly increases toxicity of mercury, so caution about minimum mercury tolerance is therefore severely underestimated. CDC scientists and all doctors are well aware of this.

• MSG (monosodium glutamate): When injected becomes a neurotoxin, causing CNS disorders and brain damage in children.

If you especially enjoy being lied to, visit vaccinateyourbaby.org, where they tell you formaldehyde is safe because it is "present in the environment and is a byproduct of metabolism, so it is already present in the human body." They also inform you that aluminum is good for you, because "[a]luminum is also commonly found in food, water, infant formula and even breast milk." Hey, if it's in the environment, it must be safe to inject into your veins (so why not use snake venom, bleach, and plutonium?).
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Learn more: www.naturalnews.com...

But hey, you are free to inject yourself with such toxic chemicals. A lot of people don't remember, or realize that many diseases were eradicated by living a healthy life, by simply cleaning their houses, letting fresh air in, taking frequent showers, using vitamins and other natural remedies.

Heck, every time I feel myself starting to get sick from a cold or flu, I take large doses of vitamin C and in a couple of days I get well, and don't get overly sick like some people do.

But hey, it's your choice what you do to yourself and your children, but stay away from trying to force your views on me and my family...

reply to post by ElectricUniverse

Didn't you know that there are also people who die BECAUSE of seatbelts?...

Then you would be gravely misinformed.

Seatbelts kill

The analogy between seatbelts and vaccines are perfect. In fact seatbelts have been the cause of more deaths throughout history than vaccines. It is still safer to wear one than not.

I am so glad YOU sparked the comparison.

Grimpachi

Then you would be gravely misinformed.

Seatbelts kill

The analogy between seatbelts and vaccines are perfect. In fact seatbelts have been the cause of more deaths throughout history than vaccines. It is still safer to wear one than not.

I am so glad YOU sparked the comparison.

edit on 13-1-2014 by Grimpachi because: (no reason given)

How the hell, and who in their right mind would think that strapping a seat belt is a good comparison to injecting toxic materials into your body or your kids?... wow....

Here is a very enlightening interview done with Merck scientist Dr Maurice Hilleman who admitts SV40, AIDS and cancer in vaccines.

www.liveleak.com...


www.youtube.com...

reply to post by ElectricUniverse

How the hell, and who in their right mind would think that strapping a seat belt is a good comparison

Ahhh. Oh well I thought you would be able to comprehend.

You know there are anti seatbelt groups out there as well they seem to operate the same way as anti vacc groups they both use the same tactics and neither seem to be able to reason.

It is a perfect fit I am sorry you can't see it.


Carry on.

Another very enlightening interview done by Dr. Leonard G. Horowitz to Robert Gallo, and it includes documentation proving the contrary to what Gallo claims.

Grimpachi


Ahhh. Oh well I thought you would be able to comprehend.

You know there are anti seatbelt groups out there as well they seem to operate the same way as anti vacc groups they both use the same tactics and neither seem to be able to reason.

It is a perfect fit I am sorry you can't see it.


Carry on.

Wow, you must really be out of your mind... Even thought I stated that car seatbelts can cause accidents as well I never wrote that I was against car seatbelts, however, it should also be a choice and not forced. If people die from not having on a seatbelt, it was THEIR DECISION...

Anyway, now again you are twisting what I am saying trying to formulate a straw man to give credence to your illogical argument...

I actually let the facts, and info make the talk, instead of making up a straw man and illogical analogies by claiming putting on a seat belt is the same as injecting yourself and your kids with vaccines that have toxic chemicals...

reply to post by Grimpachi


It is actually a good analogy.

I have done cases where children and some adults have been killed by their seat belts or air bags.


How is that different to a severe reaction to a vaccination.

thedeadtruth
reply to post by Grimpachi

 

It is actually a good analogy.

I have done cases where children and some adults have been killed by their seat belts or air bags.


How is that different to a severe reaction to a vaccination.

However, when you strap a seat belt, you are not injecting toxic chemicals, which is what happens with vaccines. There is a lesser chance of getting injured from a seat belt than getting infected with toxic chemicals from vaccines. You vaccinate yourself, and you are injecting toxic chemicals every time.

reply to post by ElectricUniverse

I never wrote that I was against car seatbelts, however, it should also be a choice and not forced. If people die from not having on a seatbelt, it was THEIR DECISION

I guess you never heard of seatbelt regulations/laws.

Here let me help.

Seat belt legislation
GHSA

reply to post by ElectricUniverse


I got told the same thing about eating worms when I was a kid. And I turned out Ok.

Ok to be honest I have issues. But I am 3% certain the two are not connected.

Grimpachi


I guess you never heard of seatbelt regulations/laws.

Here let me help.

I know about the laws on seat belts, but you still seem uncapable to understand that strapping your seat belt on is not the same as injecting toxic chemicals into your veins... Must be the chemicals in the vaccines you have allowed yourself to be injected with that don't let you comprehend the difference.

www.mothering.com...

thedeadtruth

I got told the same thing about eating worms when I was a kid. And I turned out Ok.

Ok to be honest I have issues. But I am 3% certain the two are not connected.

Yet there is an increase in cancers, more so in young children, such as Leukemia, than ever before, and there are studies/research that show this increase in cancers like Leukemia and other cancers and illnesses.

When injecting vaccines on children, and as they keep getting vaccinated year after year the vaccines cause immune system blood cells to divide creating non-identical daughter cells during the process of creating autoimmunity, which can become cancerous and cause for example Leukemia.

There are certainly other causes as well which help in the increase in cancer cases in young children and young adults.

Here is one of dozens of research studies which hint to this possibility.

Published Online December 15 2011
Science 20 January 2012:
Vol. 335 no. 6066 pp. 342-344
DOI: 10.1126/science.1213495
•Report


Asymmetric B Cell Division in the Germinal Center Reaction

Burton E. Barnett1,3,
Maria L. Ciocca1,3,
Radhika Goenka2,
Lisa G. Barnett3,
Junmin Wu1,3,
Terri M. Laufer3,4,
Janis K. Burkhardt2,5,
Michael P. Cancro2,
Steven L. Reiner1,3,*,†


Abstract



Lifelong antibody responses to vaccination require reorganization of lymphoid tissue and dynamic intercellular communication called the germinal center reaction. B lymphocytes undergo cellular polarization during antigen stimulation, acquisition, and presentation, which are critical steps for initiating humoral immunity. Here, we show that germinal center B lymphocytes asymmetrically segregate the transcriptional regulator Bcl6, the receptor for interleukin-21, and the ancestral polarity protein atypical protein kinase C to one side of the plane of division, generating unequal inheritance of fate-altering molecules by daughter cells. Germinal center B lymphocytes from mice with a defect in leukocyte adhesion fail to divide asymmetrically. These results suggest that motile cells lacking constitutive attachment can receive provisional polarity cues from the microenvironment to generate daughter cell diversity and self-renewal.

www.sciencemag.org...

I am still amazed how people can't understand why we are seeing higher and higher cases of children with Leukemia and other cancers, when the answer should be obvious.

BTW, I am not advocating not using vaccines, however, I am advocating to make vaccines without these toxic chemicals.

ElectricUniverse

thedeadtruth

I got told the same thing about eating worms when I was a kid. And I turned out Ok.

Ok to be honest I have issues. But I am 3% certain the two are not connected.

Yet there is an increase in cancers, more so in young children, such as Leukemia, than ever before, and there are studies/research that show this increase in cancers like Leukemia and other cancers and illnesses.

When injecting vaccines on children, and as they keep getting vaccinated year after year the vaccines cause immune system blood cells to divide creating non-identical daughter cells during the process of creating autoimmunity, which can become cancerous and cause for example Leukemia.

There are certainly other causes as well which help in the increase in cancer cases in young children and young adults.

Here is one of dozens of research studies which hint to this possibility.

Published Online December 15 2011
Science 20 January 2012:
Vol. 335 no. 6066 pp. 342-344
DOI: 10.1126/science.1213495
•Report


Asymmetric B Cell Division in the Germinal Center Reaction

Burton E. Barnett1,3,
Maria L. Ciocca1,3,
Radhika Goenka2,
Lisa G. Barnett3,
Junmin Wu1,3,
Terri M. Laufer3,4,
Janis K. Burkhardt2,5,
Michael P. Cancro2,
Steven L. Reiner1,3,*,†


Abstract



Lifelong antibody responses to vaccination require reorganization of lymphoid tissue and dynamic intercellular communication called the germinal center reaction. B lymphocytes undergo cellular polarization during antigen stimulation, acquisition, and presentation, which are critical steps for initiating humoral immunity. Here, we show that germinal center B lymphocytes asymmetrically segregate the transcriptional regulator Bcl6, the receptor for interleukin-21, and the ancestral polarity protein atypical protein kinase C to one side of the plane of division, generating unequal inheritance of fate-altering molecules by daughter cells. Germinal center B lymphocytes from mice with a defect in leukocyte adhesion fail to divide asymmetrically. These results suggest that motile cells lacking constitutive attachment can receive provisional polarity cues from the microenvironment to generate daughter cell diversity and self-renewal.

www.sciencemag.org...

I am still amazed how people can't understand why we are seeing higher and higher cases of children with Leukemia and other cancers, when the answer should be obvious.

Do you understand what this abstract actually says? It says that cells with leukemia do not divide symmetrically. In order for vaccines to work, the cells must divide symmetrically, therefore vaccines are not effective on those prone to leukemia. In other words, it says the opposite of what you are implying it does.

BTW, I am not advocating not using vaccines, however, I am advocating to make vaccines without these toxic chemicals.

Toxicity is a matter of dosage. Even water will kill in sufficient dosage.

Even though the WHO organization keeps claiming there is no relationship between vaccines and cancers like Leukemia, other studies show the contrary.

Is hepatitis B vaccination associated with a risk for leukaemia?

A: No. Five studies have reviewed the risk of leukaemia following hepatitis B vaccination. The only suggestion of a potential association comes from the preliminary results from the Northern California Childhood Leukemia Study by Xiaomei Ma, Monique Does, Patricia A. Buffler, John K. Wiencke. The authors presented a poster at American Association for Cancer Research Annual Meeting, San Francisco, April 9, 2002. This study reports an epidemiological association between receipt of hepatitis B vaccine and childhood leukaemia in a group of 334 children in northern California. This is the first study to ever report such an association. In their presentation, the authors hypothesize that thiomersal, a mercury-containing preservative may be the cause of the association.
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www.who.int...

Despite claims from the WHO organization that only this study shows a correlation between leukaemia and hepatitis B vaccinations, in fact there are many other such studies that show the same results.

Here are some more enlightening facts.

Another practitioner, Dr. W. B. Clarke of Indiana, finds that "Cancer was practically unknown until compulsory vaccination with cowpox vaccine began to be introduced. I have had to deal with at least two hundred cases of cancer, and I never saw a case of cancer in an unvaccinated person."--Eustace Mullins

In an "In Memoriam" notice in a local paper, in November 1942, it was stated that William Martin Graham, Bowness Farm, Bowness, Wigton, aged four years, had died on 13 November 1941, from inoculation. The cause of death, which occurred five months after inoculation, had been certified as acute lymphatic Leukemia. The Truth About Vaccination and Immunization by Lily Loat

"The chief, if not the sole, cause of the monstrous increase in cancer has been vaccination." - Dr. Robert Bell; V. President International Society for Cancer Research, British Cancer Hospital.

My son was diagnosed with acute lymphablastic leukaemia (ALL) ten days or so post-MMR dose. I realise this is not one of the side-effects that you mentioned. I have been reassured many times that it had nothing to do with triggering ALL. My son is alive, 19 now and persevering against side-effects of treatment 18 years ago. Jessica Mullan, Grand Rapids, Michigan, USA 09.03.07 [2007] Parliament was given false MMR assurance

Mr. J. Jackson Clarke, M.B. (Lond.), F.R.C.S., &c, the distinguished surgeon, when recently describing experiments in vaccination on the cornea, refers to the resulting "now well-known bodies " which "recall the bodies Russell described in cancer in 1890." Mr. Jackson Clarke further states that the bodies seen in the vaccinated cornea are closely similar in their appearance to those described as protozoa in cancer.
General Phelps, in a paper read at the Glasgow meeting of the National Anti-Vaccination League, held in November, 1903, says : " Monckton-Copeman and Mann, writing on vaccine lesions in skin, observes : 'Clarke rightly points out that many cells appear similar to those found in cancer.' " [1921] Vaccination and the State By Arnold Lupton MP.

Dr. Tennison Deane of San Francisco, in his Crime of Vaccination, tells a remarkable story illustrative of this truth.
Dr. Deane relates that he was summering in Northern California in the late 80's, near a wealthy ranchman who lived with his wife and seven children on a 10,000-acre ranch in a salubrious pine region, 15 miles from the nearest town and having no adjacent neighbors. With him on the ranch at that time was a negro foreman who also had a wife and five children. Until Dr. Deane appeared on the scene, none of these 16 persons—white nor black—had ever been vaccinated.
As a zealous young practitioner, very close to his medical school traditions, Dr. Deane quickly warned these ranch-dwellers of their "unprotected" state and was able to persuade six of the sixteen—the farmer's wife and three children, the negro foreman and his 12-year-old son—to submit to the vaccinating operation. "A year later," writes Dr. Deane, "an epidemic of sore throats broke out in this ranch colony which developed into diphtheria in four of the vaccinated, among them the farmer's wife, and one child died. The unvaccinated recovered rapidly from their sore throats, but the farmer's wife was paralyzed for a year and eleven years later died of cancer."
It seems that the San Francisco physician was so impressed by this unexpected turn of his well-intentioned vaccinating zeal, that he not only kept tab on the subsequent history of the two families on the northern ranch, but watched the connection between vaccination and other maladies occurring in his general practice. He learned that the other four persons whom he had vaccinated on the ranch all died either of tuberculosis or cancer within four to twenty-two years from the date of vaccination, while none of the unvaccinated in either family died within that period except the white farmer who, he says, "died of old age."
Dr. Deane relates that for many years after this early experience with vaccination on the Northern California ranch, when a patient came to him with any serious throat, bronchial or pulmonary trouble, he made a point of inquiring into his past history, and invariably he found a back-ground of calf-pus "immunization" against smallpox. Then when he felt he had sufficient data to warrant it, he published The Crime of Vaccination (in 1913), which brought down on him the wrath of his medical colleagues, and made his professional life in San Francisco so unhappy that he voluntarily withdrew from all medical assemblages and finally abandoned all medical practice except surgery. Hale, Annie Riley. The Medical Voodoo. New York: Gotham House, 1936.

Polio vaccine contamination with SV40:
"Stanley Kops....has produced proof positive that the oral polio vaccine has always been contaminated with SV-40, a monkey virus which has been linked by the FDA and other organisations with cancers such as mesothelioma and meduloblastoma. Since 1963, we have been assured that polio vaccines have not contained this deadly contaminant. Stanley Kops shows that not only is this not the case, but that the vaccine regulators who are charged with keeping our families safe, have known all along that SV-40 was never removed from vaccines."----Meryl W. Dorey

Childhood diseases prevent cancer [Homeopathy and Measles]
"On the basis of observations by the Vienna surgeon Professor Schmidt, which took place over decades in his practice 16, studies in the last 100 years have shown consistently that people who experienced childhood diseases accompanied by fever were less likely to suffer from cancer in later life 17, 18,19,20."---Anita Petek-Dimmer
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reply to post by ElectricUniverse


Wow! Some obsessive paranoiac spent a great deal of time culling through newspapers looking for people who blamed cancer and leukemia on any inoculation they could. Every quotation is anecdotal and represents an opinion. It is not a study and has no merit whatsoever. Go with what WHO says. They have actual numbers.

DJW001


Do you understand what this abstract actually says? It says that cells with leukemia do not divide symmetrically. In order for vaccines to work, the cells must divide symmetrically, therefore vaccines are not effective on those prone to leukemia. In other words, it says the opposite of what you are implying it does.

BTW, I am not advocating not using vaccines, however, I am advocating to make vaccines without these toxic chemicals.

Toxicity is a matter of dosage. Even water will kill in sufficient dosage.

Except for the fact that seam cells have a tendency to divide asymmetrically. Vaccines can cause mutations causing defects in the seam cell division giving an array of illnesses to the patient, more so young ones. Including birth defects and various forms of cancer.

I am aware that in the research they try to dismiss what the actual research states, just like the organization who has been doing to research that states vaccines can cause Leukemia and other cancers and diseases.

DJW001
reply to post by ElectricUniverse

 

Wow! Some obsessive paranoiac spent a great deal of time culling through newspapers looking for people who blamed cancer and leukemia on any inoculation they could. Every quotation is anecdotal and represents an opinion. It is not a study and has no merit whatsoever. Go with what WHO says. They have actual numbers.

Oh really? you mean like the claims from WHO that fish from Japan is safe to eat?...

You go ahead and keep trusting them....

Heck, by all means go ahead and eat fish from the Japanese waters. It's your choice after all.

ElectricUniverse

DJW001
reply to post by ElectricUniverse

 

Wow! Some obsessive paranoiac spent a great deal of time culling through newspapers looking for people who blamed cancer and leukemia on any inoculation they could. Every quotation is anecdotal and represents an opinion. It is not a study and has no merit whatsoever. Go with what WHO says. They have actual numbers.

Oh really? you mean like the claims from WHO that fish from Japan is safe to eat?...

You go ahead and keep trusting them....

Heck, by all means go ahead and eat fish from the Japanese waters. It's your choice after all.

edit on 14-1-2014 by ElectricUniverse because: (no reason given)

What evidence do you have to the contrary? You cannot base your life on irrational fears. The FAA says that flying is safe, so you had better not leave your house because an airplane is bound to fall on you.