Curiosity: Potential Anomalies (Update 01/2014)

papajake
I thought I'd add a couple of rock anomalies I've found to jeep3r's awesome thread. I believe these are fairly small items, in the 4" to 7" size range. Still interesting though. Pay particular attention to the shadows.

Item one is what I call Rock Handle. Thousands---if not millions---of years old and that handle has yet to snap off (again, look at the shadow). That's one strong rock! (Link to Original):

Item two is Rock Duck. I realize it's not a duck, just looks like one. What's interesting about this rock is it appears that the "head" is inserted into the main body at a pivot point. Very strange. (Link to Original)

Rock Duck has been enlarged 300 percent and lightened from the original.

Enjoy.

edit on 9-2-2014 by papajake because: Fixed typo

Hey Papajake, glad you finally posted these ... the collection would be incomplete without 'em!

I'm not sure whether it's anything else than rocks, but since coloring and shading is almost uniform on the surface (dustcover), we can never know for sure. With that said, distinct shapes that stand out should always make us curious & think twice!

P.S.: Thanks for presenting these features the way you did, incl. the highlighted versions (always useful)!

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Nice finds, because I've always said that if it looks like a rock duck, walks (sits there) like a rock duck, and quacks (the silence of the ducks) like a rock duck, it's a rock duck! A very good likeness, and Disney will find this and copyright it.

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hey Papa welcome. some interesting shapes and presented well , nothing like a bit of colour overlay to get your shape across,.. here , have you ever seen a triangle withina triangle within a triangle?



lmardisol


*pokes Aleister below with the pointy end of a triangular sign*
funBox

Yikes. Here's a massive thread of Mars anomalies from early-2013 which I don't remember being linked to this thread. It's like an older brother of this thread, but less fun (how can it not be?).

When you have a few hours (or days), happy hunting! Maybe we can find more spokes:

www.abovetopsecret.com...

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Source Image 0526ML2074000000E1_DXXX
1212X, 867Y Center Pixel in frame for targe view
Anything out of place here?
What do you see?
What is this, 16 inches tall?

files.abovetopsecret.com...

reply to post by BuzzDengue


You mean BlueIt's "helmet"? That's a piece of the puzzle that was still missing, although a rather blurry one! Unless I misinterpreted what you meant ...


By the way: Some of the things you pointed out in the Rocknest panorama looked quite interesting, but IMO most of the features were a bit too far-field'ish. If ArMaP manages to find/post the original source images, it'll be much easier to double-check the formations at the coordinates you indicated.

ETA: Hang on in there and thanks for diggin' up all those pics & locations for us to look at ...

jeep3r
reply to post by BuzzDengue

 

By the way: Some of the things you pointed out in the Rocknest panorama looked quite interesting, but IMO most of the features were a bit too far-field'ish. If ArMaP manages to find/post the original source images, it'll be much easier to double-check the formations at the coordinates you indicated.

ETA: Hang on in there and thanks for diggin' up all those pics & locations for us to look at ...

I need help trying to distill out those locations (latitude & longitude) from the originals that comprise the mosaic and then backing into the applicable HiRISE resource images... spent a couple hours today... really need help from some fellow forum junkies to get there. The Rocknest position was at Lat/Long of East 8147178.49 North -272074.10 according to mission data for Sols 56 through 101. Assuming the main target I'm after was to that position's South & East (Southwest quadrant of Gale Crater, close to the base of Mount Sharp... Any HiRISE or other mapping data available for that region is what I'd be after.
Thanks!

jeep3r
glad you finally posted these

Thanks jeep3r. I'm not sure whether they are anything but rocks either. If nothing else, they are interesting looking rocks.

reply to post by BuzzDengue


I think you got the image IDs mixed up, as image PIA 16453 is not wide enough for those values.

BuzzDengue
The Rocknest position was at Lat/Long of East 8147178.49 North -272074.10 according to mission data for Sols 56 through 101.

Those don't look like normal coordinates, where did you find them?

Aleister
reply to post by papajake

 

Nice finds, because I've always said that if it looks like a rock duck, walks (sits there) like a rock duck, and quacks (the silence of the ducks) like a rock duck, it's a rock duck! A very good likeness, and Disney will find this and copyright it.

Thanks, Aleister. But Walt can have the duck rock, I'll take the frog rock.





Link to original photo:

funbox
reply to post by papajake

 

have you ever seen a triangle withina triangle within a triangle?

No, I haven't seen that photo yet. Thanks for sharing. The triangle you pointed out is interesting. It almost looks like a small pyramid type object attached to side of the rock outcropping.

BuzzDengue

 

I need help trying to distill out those locations (latitude & longitude) from the originals that comprise the mosaic and then backing into the applicable HiRISE resource images... spent a couple hours today... really need help from some fellow forum junkies to get there. The Rocknest position was at Lat/Long of East 8147178.49 North -272074.10 according to mission data for Sols 56 through 101. Assuming the main target I'm after was to that position's South & East (Southwest quadrant of Gale Crater, close to the base of Mount Sharp... Any HiRISE or other mapping data available for that region is what I'd be after.
Thanks!

For your orientation, here goes a HiRISE overview map from an earlier part of the mission, including the approximate locations between sols 56 to 101:


I included the rough field of view (highlighted in yellow) of the classic rocknest panorama which Curiosity acquired on Sol 64. She stood approximately where the white arrow starts. If you want to look at HiRISE imagery you'll need to proceed as follows:

- download HiVIEW
- go to Google Earth and activate the "Google Mars" function
- locate Gale Crater and activate the spacecraft imagery HIRISE option in the layers section
- choose a HiRISE image strip that's been imaged by MRO (note: different resolutions available)
- download the JP2 files (can be opened with HiVIEW)
- in HiVIEW, select 'Default Contrast Stretch' in the color settings

It'll still be difficult to recognize anything from above, because some of the best HiRISE images have a resolution of 'only' 27 cm/pixel. You'll need to spend some time with the above steps, but perhaps it's worth it. Good luck!

ETA: And here goes a summary of Curiosity's location on different sols:

reply to post by funbox

but this is all on the assumption life was even there before the catastrophe

You know life could have started after the catastrophe also. The thing about life I think is we are going to have a hard time finding a place that has none.

There is life in the pools of radiation at the nuke plants, hottest places coldest places,in acid, in oil, they even found an unknown lifeform in NASA clean rooms. Bacteria lived in space when taken there and life was found in the upper atmosphere.
Frogs looked in solid rock for years are living. I could go on for a long while on oddities of life.

All the bees were able to take off at altitudes up to 26,000 feet (8,000 m). The winningest bee reached an impressive 30,000 feet (9,125 m)—higher, even, than Mount Everest.

blogs.discovermagazine.com...

New Bacterial Life-Form Discovered in NASA and ESA Spacecraft Clean Rooms

www.scientificamerican.com...

You ever wonder how a new mountain lake with no river flowing in suddenly has fish? I think the way things work is no matter what a place is like even space, something will develope into a life form that likes it there... is built for there.

papajake

Aleister
reply to post by papajake

 

Nice finds, because I've always said that if it looks like a rock duck, walks (sits there) like a rock duck, and quacks (the silence of the ducks) like a rock duck, it's a rock duck! A very good likeness, and Disney will find this and copyright it.

Thanks, Aleister. But Walt can have the duck rock, I'll take the frog rock.

Link to original photo:

Ah Ha you caught one of the various rock clammy things eating a stone!

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What a nice post, the "life will find a way" post. It is amazing how diverse life is on, under, and above earth, and one of the things I'm always amazed by and still can't understand is when someone shows a video from the deepest parts of the ocean and you see these delicate little creatures swimming about. How is that possible? The weight of the water would crush a human in a moment of time, but these little things with filmy fins and tiny dangling bait-lights swim around, la la la, taking in no sights because it's too dark down there to see. To make the leap that life can exist on Mars, once it starts somewhere apparently it sticks around for awhile. So who knows? But as you affirm, "Life will find a way" (maybe).

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Once life gets to a place then it will adapt and will find a way of remain there, the difficult part is to get there in the first place.

That's why I think that, if Mars had life any time in the past then it's likely that it still has some kind of life, but if it never had I doubt that it will have in the future, unless it gets some external help.

ArMaP

BuzzDengue
The Rocknest position was at Lat/Long of East 8147178.49 North -272074.10 according to mission data for Sols 56 through 101.

Those don't look like normal coordinates, where did you find them?

Those are the rover drive coordinates registered to a HiRISE basemap lat/long.

ArMaP
reply to post by BuzzDengue

 

I think you got the image IDs mixed up, as image PIA 16453 is not wide enough for those values.

Hi ArMap...
Make sure you are using the NASA image that I linked to in my post, PIA1645.TIF @ 120,985kb, 13726 X 3008 pixels, yes?

reply to post by jeep3r

Thank you for the procedure and advice. I have Google Mars And HiRISE currently loaded, so my project this week will be to get myself "directionally calibrated" within all the imaging data targets I have within the Rocknest mosaic... maybe even contact the authors who stitched that quilt together. I will be on Rocknest for a while. Thanks again.