Quake Watch 2014

a reply to: Hellas

Pretty good really. With 6 minutes difference the 6.4 definitely triggered the 5.3



On another matter

Note to those of you who are using any of the versions of the QVSData program.

EMSC have prevented the download of data from the source I used to use by adding a captcha question which the program obviously cannot answer. The program was using the KML files because they had all the data.

After firing off a grumpy old man email to them I have been searching round the site and find they now have a web based download in JSON format or XML format. I have a JSON reader I developed that is used for the USGS, Canadian and other providers so it should be reasonably easy to change the program to use this BUT it may be a few days before I can complete it as I am very busy at the moment.

Because the ID numbers are not as clear now it may take a few days of playing with the program to get everything back up and running again.

I am now going off to continue to be grumpy because I have change! Perhaps I should change my mood back to grumpy again?

I don't care if it's "technically" Greece, I said to watch Turkey. Except it's not along the fault I thought. Asia had been quiet, but recently it's popped off a few. Again, clustering. Earthquakes can trigger other earthquakes. But not on the wider scale. Like all of Asia. It's not triggering exactly. These wider earthquakes don't exactly trigger each other. It's something else.

a reply to: ericblair4891

It's not triggering exactly.

You could say it is technically not triggering like it is technically not Turkey

Terminology for ease of understanding? Whilst a trigger is generally applied to a more distant quake it is acceptable for example to say that aftershocks are 'triggered' although more correctly they are 'resultant' from stress re-distribution rather than triggering but 'triggered' is easier for most people to conceptualise.

a reply to: PuterMan

Hehe....want to add pedantic to grumpy?
Have been wondering where you've been Uncle....glad to see you popping back on.
Rainbows
Jane

a reply to: angelchemuel

Hehe....want to add pedantic to grumpy?

Oh yes please! Anything else I can collect in my epithets box?

I am busy busy busy. Retirement is just so short of time to get everything done. Our choir won it's class in the last festival so I can rest now until September but EMSC have just caused me several days of work. So there you have it niece!

a reply to: PuterMan

Dear Uncle,
I am most upset that you were remiss informing me of your choir win .
You may now add early onset dementia to your epithets.
Rainbows as always,
Jane

a reply to: Hellas

its just aftershocks, earthquakes do not make allowances for political borders
National Observatory of Athens have 59 of them on their automatic Real Time page here
the reviewed page only showing 16 here
Main Quake;
automatic showing 6.5ML
bbnet.gein.noa.gr...

reviewed showing 6.3ML
bbnet.gein.noa.gr...

but that is quite a big rip along the fault, 260km!

Two downgrades just in, one below mag 6.0

Downgraded quake
mag=5.7 (This was 6.0 but only on USGS)
place=70km SSE of Namlea. Indonesia
time=1399020215310
updated=1400849240884
earthquake.usgs.gov...
mmi=4.66
usb000q6wt
magnitudeType=mww
coordinates=127.4341,-3.8031,35

Downgraded quake
mag=6.1 (Was 6.2)
place=66km NE of Nuku`alofa. Tonga
time=1398492141000
updated=1400679004953
earthquake.usgs.gov...
mmi=5.45
usb000q0ag
magnitudeType=mww
coordinates=-174.7068,-20.752,45

a reply to: muzzy

Us Gus showing 6.9 now for that Aegean quake and GFZ showing 6.8

6.3ML only equates to about 6.1Mw so someone is wrong.

off topic, but "I have a JSON reader",, Firefox reads/saves backups in JSON file format.
just in case, u did not know, and might help.





a reply to: PuterMan

a reply to: PuterMan
Yeah that is a big difference
i did a map of the "revised" (reviewed?) aftershocks anyway here
Not many, only 27 confirmed

a reply to: BobAthome

Thanks for thinking about it. Yes I am aware that Firefox and Chrome et al can read JSON files unfortunately that is in Firefox, Chrome etc and not in my program

No worries I have sorted it out and the program is reading EMSC JSON files now in my SuperPro version so I have to progress that back down to the other versions now.

I have decided to limit the storage of revisions to >= Mag 3 as I had nearly 7 million records stacked up which is completely pointless and slows everything down. I am also going to zap them automatically after 30 days. All that will be left is the flag saying they were revised.

I hoped to take this opportunity to upgrade the New Zealand download which is no satisfactory and spawns many duplicates for some reason I have not been able to put my finger on. I was going to revert to XML until I found that GeoNet have changed the web address and the call procedures. I do wish these people would not fiddle with their system without consulting me.

I am going to revert it to CSV now and hope that will solve the duplications. This should all be ready sometime tomorrow, that is in programmers term so double it and say Wednesday

F-E Region: North Pacific Ocean (F_E611)
Time: 2014-05-25 21:25:51.2 UTC
Magnitude: 5.6
Epicenter: 167.04°E 25.71°N
Depth: 10 km
Status: A - automatic
geofon.gfz-potsdam.de...

Location: Rea Seamount (I Google Earthed it)

Unusual to see quake way out here in the middle of no where

although I'm sure I seen another one in with that FE on GFZ at some point in the last 3 weeks

Edit: Na just used DataPro to check the last month GFZ data, nothing. I'm telling ya I saw it!

further to post by: muzzy
just had a look at the co-ordinates for F_E611, its a huge area!
I might process it into a polygon for the F_E GE mapping project, while I have the pdf out.

further and further to post: muzzy
yep here it is, F_E611 North Pacific Ocean
I had to split it into East and West as right in the middle of it is Hawaii and also ANSS search doesn't like co-ordinates that cross the Meridian 180, similar to the Alaskan file

clicking on the map image should open the KML file (only works if you have Google Earth, it will likely go to your Downloads folder depending what type of computer you got)
clicking on the border lines a popup tag comes up with the polygon line you can use to search ANSS (thats what this is all about)
Unless someone else wants to have a crack at it, I'll do a search on ANSS in the morning

follow up to: muzzy
and now that one is gone too!!!

must have been an error, that page goes to one near Tonga now

EMSC still have it though www.emsc-csem.org...
Source parameters provided by:
GeoForschungsZentrum (GEOFON) -- Potsdam, Germany (GFZ)
none of the stations have a magnitude though
www.emsc-csem.org...

Location provided by SC3
www.emsc-csem.org...

not sure who SC3 is
List of real time data contributors
SC= New Mexico Tech Seismic Network, New Mexico Tech, Socorro, New Mexico USA
www.emsc-csem.org...
Yet on their home page this;
NOTE: NMTSO suffered a catastrophic single-point of failure to our ageing system at 0635 MST Jan 14, 2014. No seismic data have been recorded since then. This page will be updated when repairs are effected.
www.ees.nmt.edu...

so who is SC3??

Its all a bit fishy

GFZ picked up a couple of quakes in the Levant recently, rare
2014-05-25 12:22:55 4.2 34.14°N 35.40°E 10 M Jordan/Syria Region
2014-05-24 07:27:29 4.1 30.50°N 35.27°E 13 M Dead Sea Region

the Levant is a geographic and cultural term referring to the region that includes most of modern Lebanon, Syria, Jordan, Israel, the Palestinian territories, and the Sinai peninsula.
Also known throughout history as Retenu, Canaan, Phoenicia, Israel and Judea, Assyria and Syria, Philistia and Palestine, Eber-Nari and Transeuphratia, ash-Sham, Outremer, the Holy Land, and the Eastern Mediterranean
This map includes the KML files for Lebanon 590BCto1956AD, Syria 2050BCto1872AD, Isreal 1250BCto1927AD, Jordan 2150BCto1834AD and Egypt92BCto1996AD.
the Levant 2150BCto1996AD interactive historical earthquake map data by Utsu

follow up to post by: muzzy
Did a search on ANSS and noticed I went too far West with the bit by the Izu Islands, I had 140E instead of 144E
Redoing it now

edit:
Done






Totally different result, 200 quakes 1963-2014 by ANSS
F_E611 just catches a wee bit of the Philippine Plate between the North Marianas and the Volcano Islands (majority of the events) and a little chunk south of of the Kuril Trench, but the rest are pretty scattered/random
interactive map F_E611 North Pacific Ocean ANSS 1963-2014

Ha! all that from an error by GFZ!!
Oh well at least we now have the answer
um, what was the question again?

update on post: muzzy
Samothraki 6.3Ml (6.8Mw) Aegean Sea aftershocks map reviewed data NOA
mag1= 15
mag2= 78
mag3= 40
mag4= 10
mag5= 0
mag6= 1
total= 144
total energy released= 43,363.810 TTNT

Thank you for all the updates muzzy, but you have been talking to yourself for 3 days now.
Here.....have a lovely cup of tea...


Rainbows
Jane