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AngryCymraeg
reply to post by MagnumOpus
Nice try at distracting us there sparkey, with a torrent of baseless conjecture and threadbare theories. By the way, buy a dictionary - there's no such word as 'nobelist'.
Now lets get back to your ridiculous claim that the UK was/is worse than Nazi Germany. Where did you get that fascinating claim from? Are you seriously saying that Hitler was better than Churchill? Because if you are then you'd better be able to defend such a ludicrous position.
(And by the way - I want an apology from you about wasting our time with the claim that FDR was going to break up the UK. Baseless.)
MagnumOpus
AngryCymraeg
reply to post by MagnumOpus
Nice try at distracting us there sparkey, with a torrent of baseless conjecture and threadbare theories. By the way, buy a dictionary - there's no such word as 'nobelist'.
Now lets get back to your ridiculous claim that the UK was/is worse than Nazi Germany. Where did you get that fascinating claim from? Are you seriously saying that Hitler was better than Churchill? Because if you are then you'd better be able to defend such a ludicrous position.
(And by the way - I want an apology from you about wasting our time with the claim that FDR was going to break up the UK. Baseless.)
The very reason you are here is because FDR's message was going to be so devastating to the English way of things that an all out effort in the control of News and the Control of Internet was seen as needed by the English and Masons.
Does the news not say that England now has 300 languages and is falling apart via the like appearance of Babylon under Nimrod's Tower that Masons of that time built. After all, England did clone the methods of Nimrod and Semiramis and became hunters of Men. Isn't England now a disgrace because it harbors a huge number of terrorists?
I'd say the FDR message is still highly relevant and it is not as suppressed as when Churchill tried to run over that message when FDR died. Then JFK revived it in his presidency. And 50 years later the world will discover that clue is the key to the murder of JFK. The worst it yet to come for England from the world's knowledge of what England as been doing for Empire and their version of NWO controls.
You appear, as a London, England resident on ATS in like fashion as the English based JFK Forum that all the Moderators on ATS are trained to wipe off their servers at the very sighting of their domain name. There too, they avoid the English links to the JFK hit via any means possible and don't ever recognize the issues of FDR and JFK being highly hated by England and their Scottish Rite Masons.
So, each time you accentuate only the negative things and ignore the huge positive roles of FDR and JFK, you and other like yourself show the world just how much the Englishers hate the truth on the importance of the FDR message that was suppressed, but had it now that would avoided all wars via methods of a rising tide to life all the world's boats.
Your obvious disdain of the knowledge that FDR had taken on the larger picture for world peace without the need to continual wars has England all upset that they will be found out as being war mongers for profit via the Churchill Masonic methods for NWO, which is the direct opposite of FDR's visions.
The high road to a NWO was the Mason ideals from Washington to Jefferson's time, and the low road to a NWO hell is the Churchill Scottish Rite Mason version of NWO via oligarchic control.
A world that understands the world game plan that FDR envisioned would quickly vote down the English low road to Hell methods to gain their NWO.
As such, your every action shows the desperation of England to not look truth in the eye, or have others knowing the greater truth not look Englanders in the eye with knowledge of the wants of evil's ways derived from Babylon's Nimrod.
MagnumOpus
reply to post by AngryCymraeg
Many of the Kings/Queens of England had Welsh bloodlines, so being Welsh is highly connect to England's Kings and Queens and the issues of Hunters of Men and origins of Nimrod and Semiramis.
As such, you are not excused from being tied to England. imho
The English Welsh King (Tudor gang) started the Church of England games to oppose the Pope.
And your actions to disregard what is the important vectors of knowledge for the JFK hit show that continued alliance with England. imhoedit on 1-3-2014 by MagnumOpus because: If the Welsh were English Kings, then the Welsh are English followers. imho
AngryCymraeg
MagnumOpus
reply to post by AngryCymraeg
Many of the Kings/Queens of England had Welsh bloodlines, so being Welsh is highly connect to England's Kings and Queens and the issues of Hunters of Men and origins of Nimrod and Semiramis.
As such, you are not excused from being tied to England. imho
The English Welsh King (Tudor gang) started the Church of England games to oppose the Pope.
And your actions to disregard what is the important vectors of knowledge for the JFK hit show that continued alliance with England. imhoedit on 1-3-2014 by MagnumOpus because: If the Welsh were English Kings, then the Welsh are English followers. imho
We'll overlook the fact that the Welsh were conquered by the English after a thousand years of warfare. The actions of the Tudors were a while back, so we'll overlook that as well.
Now: let's get back to the elephant in the living room that you seem to be running away from. And no, we can't ignore it because your post demands an explanation. You said: "FDR's directions against Churchill and England are very accurately represented. And that JFK and Joe Kennedy were clones of FDR in ideals and policy per dealing with the English, and the English problem being worse than the NAZIs. Which has proven very true. " Explain that remark.
"We are going to have worse trouble with Britain [after the war] than we do with Nazi Germany now."
In 1946, as the history of the period was already being rewritten, FDR's son, Elliot, published a short book, titled As He Saw It. With pungency and force, using first-hand accounts, Elliot told the truth about his father's bitter fights with Churchill, leading the historian Arthur Schlesinger, Jr. to state in a contemporary review that the book's central thesis was that Roosevelt saw Great Britain and its imperial system as a far greater adversary to the United States than Russia.
AngryCymraeg
reply to post by MagnumOpus
Ok, interesting. By the way, not that you'll credit us with this, but the British also ENDED the slave trade and banned slavery - decades before the USA did. Put that in your pipe and smoke it. Secondly, you keep citing the Schiller Institute, which is linked to anti-Semitic conspiracy theories as well as that nutjob Lyndon LaRouche. Which is very interesting!
Then there's your assertion that the US needs to retarget your nukes onto the UK. Which is... and I'm trying to be polite here... somewhat eccentric. And finally let's readdress the missing answer to the question that I have asked repeatedly and which I will continue to demand an answer to because I'm sure we'd all like to hear you answer it. Yes or no - was it a good thing or not that the British were not invaded and beaten by the Nazis? Answer it.
AngryCymraeg
reply to post by MagnumOpus
Erm, what plan by FDR to "disband" England (I presume that you mean the UK, as you can't seem to grasp the concept of the UK. Buy a dictionary. Better yet, get an education)? You seem to blame the British for a lot of things. Please explain to us how you think that World War Two broke out. I suspect that it's going to leave those of us who actually know about history with a severe attack of the giggles.
And once again - was it a good thing or a bad thing that the Nazis didn't invade (not that they really could have as Sealion was DOA from the start) and above all didn't win the war? Yes or no. I have a strong suspicion what you really think about this.
EDIT: Your quote: "While it was not Hitler's time to do in England, the next exchange will be one of Divine Intervention worse that what FDR (or Hitler for that matter) proposed to end England's overbearing control over others and their methods of hidden hand deceit and treachery. imho"
Are you seriously suggesting that the men of the UK all need to be deported to work camps in Europe whilst all the Jews are shipped off to Extermination Camps? Really? Is that your solution? Because that's what Hitler had planned for us. Do YOUR research instead of ranting aimlessly about ebil sooper-seekrit masons controlling everything!edit on 3-3-2014 by AngryCymraeg because: (no reason given)edit on 3-3-2014 by AngryCymraeg because: Magnum Opus continues to go off the rails and rant at the UK.
``|`The British Empire trade agreements,'' he [Churchill] began heavily, `are--'|''
``Father broke in. `Yes. Those Empire trade agreements are a case in point. It is because of them that the people of India and Africa, of all the colonial Near East and Far East, are still as backward as they are.'
``Churchill's neck reddened and he crouched forward. `Mr. President, England does not propose for a moment to lose its favored position among the British Dominions. The trade that has made England great shall continue, and under these conditions prescribed by England's ministers.'
``|`You see,' said Father slowly, `it is along in here somewhere that there is likely to be disagreement between you, Winston, and me.
``|`I am firmly of the belief that if we are to arrive at a stable peace, it must involve the development of backward countries. Backward peoples. How can this be done? It can't be done obviously by eighteenth-century methods. Now--'
``|`Who's talking about eighteenth-century methods?'
``|`Whichever of your ministers recommends a policy which takes raw materials out of a colonial country, but which returns nothing to the people of the that country in consideration. Twentieth-century methods involve bringing industry to these colonies. Twentieth-century methods include increasing the standard of living, by educating them, by bringing them sanitation--by making sure that they get a return for the raw wealth of their community...'
``|`You mentioned India,' he [Churchill] growled.
``|`Yes, I [Roosevelt] can't believe that we can fight a war against fascist slavery, and at the same time not work to free people all over the world from a backward colonial policy.'
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``The President's mind was back in the American War of Independence and he thought of the Indian problem in terms of thirteen colonies fighting George III at the end of the 18th century...''
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``Let me, however, make this clear, in case that there should be any mistake about it in any quarter. We mean to hold our own. I have not become the King's First Minister in order to preside over the liquidation of the British Empire.''
MagnumOpus
Given that England's Lord Balfour, a Mason, is behind the 3rd temple efforts in Palestine and what Revelation speaks about those festering problems of inequality. What is Zionism but English born inequality in the Middle East, a new Empire rooted in the same religious inequality of England's Nimrod Kings and Semiramis Queens. One should expect a nuclear solution near the plains of Armageddon and similar for the inequality problem's roots in England.
In the US, criminals of any society are segregated from the general population-----and if corrupt Masons of the US can not shape up---FEMA camps, aka jails, should work fine for them. After all, they did it to the Japanese.
No need for the same in England, but the solution they pressed against the Japanese should be their just reward. As FDR knew the Japan war was won and he was not going to nuke Japan, but the English Masons wanted to see a huge demonstration of nuclear death to declare their powers of war.
The next time England gets into hidden hang magic, Russian and the USA can likely find how useful nukes are on England. imho
The Black Prince Hall Masons need to finish what Abe Lincoln started and demand equality in the Southern Scottish Rite Masons, as has happen for most Mason outfits in the Northern US. Black Masons need to unite and force the issues against the apartheid / segregation Masons of the US Southern Scottish Rite Jurisdiction with protests and public demonstrations. The Civil Rights movement in the South was loaded with Masons and White against Black and all that history needs to be exposed and those that admired MLK need to lead the movements for truth about the Southern Scottish Rite Masons. imho
When they win that one, then go after reparations from the English Slavers that killed their forefathers and sold them for cheap labor to support the Atlantic Triangle trade in cotton. imho
edit on 3-3-2014 by MagnumOpus because: Ending modern day apartheid (again English South Africa) and segregation and seeking just reparations. imho
AngryCymraeg
MagnumOpus
Given that England's Lord Balfour, a Mason, is behind the 3rd temple efforts in Palestine and what Revelation speaks about those festering problems of inequality. What is Zionism but English born inequality in the Middle East, a new Empire rooted in the same religious inequality of England's Nimrod Kings and Semiramis Queens. One should expect a nuclear solution near the plains of Armageddon and similar for the inequality problem's roots in England.
In the US, criminals of any society are segregated from the general population-----and if corrupt Masons of the US can not shape up---FEMA camps, aka jails, should work fine for them. After all, they did it to the Japanese.
No need for the same in England, but the solution they pressed against the Japanese should be their just reward. As FDR knew the Japan war was won and he was not going to nuke Japan, but the English Masons wanted to see a huge demonstration of nuclear death to declare their powers of war.
The next time England gets into hidden hang magic, Russian and the USA can likely find how useful nukes are on England. imho
The Black Prince Hall Masons need to finish what Abe Lincoln started and demand equality in the Southern Scottish Rite Masons, as has happen for most Mason outfits in the Northern US. Black Masons need to unite and force the issues against the apartheid / segregation Masons of the US Southern Scottish Rite Jurisdiction with protests and public demonstrations. The Civil Rights movement in the South was loaded with Masons and White against Black and all that history needs to be exposed and those that admired MLK need to lead the movements for truth about the Southern Scottish Rite Masons. imho
When they win that one, then go after reparations from the English Slavers that killed their forefathers and sold them for cheap labor to support the Atlantic Triangle trade in cotton. imho
edit on 3-3-2014 by MagnumOpus because: Ending modern day apartheid (again English South Africa) and segregation and seeking just reparations. imho
Let's see if I have this right. According to you the deportation of millions of British people to Europe and the genocide of the British Jews isn't enough - you want the UK to be nuked. That's what you're saying. You can't change your quote that's what I have just cut and pasted about this post of mine. You're serious. Oh and you're saying that the Civil Rights movement of the 60's was loaded with evil masons as well.
In other words you are calling for genocide. That's the only way I can describe it. Genocide.
MagnumOpus
While it was not Hitler's time to do in England, the next exchange will be one of Divine Intervention worse that what FDR (or Hitler for that matter) proposed to end England's overbearing control over others and their methods of hidden hand deceit and treachery. imho
No need for the same in England, but the solution they pressed against the Japanese should be their just reward. As FDR knew the Japan war was won and he was not going to nuke Japan, but the English Masons wanted to see a huge demonstration of nuclear death to declare their powers of war.
The next time England gets into hidden hang magic, Russian and the USA can likely find how useful nukes are on England. imho
The Black Prince Hall Masons need to finish what Abe Lincoln started and demand equality in the Southern Scottish Rite Masons, as has happen for most Mason outfits in the Northern US. Black Masons need to unite and force the issues against the apartheid / segregation Masons of the US Southern Scottish Rite Jurisdiction with protests and public demonstrations. The Civil Rights movement in the South was loaded with Masons and White against Black and all that history needs to be exposed and those that admired MLK need to lead the movements for truth about the Southern Scottish Rite Masons. imho
When they win that one, then go after reparations from the English Slavers that killed their forefathers and sold them for cheap labor to support the Atlantic Triangle trade in cotton. imho