Atheism is an absurd idea that produces mental illness

Atheism is an absurd idea that produces mental illness

Those people who call themselves an atheist because they hate the abuses of organized religion are simply holding on to hatred that is robbing them of their peace. This is clearly a form of mental disease that can be minimized through forgiveness and education.

While organized religion has been one of the most corrupt and abusive forms of mind control in human history and responsible for the death and destruction of millions of people, you can separate yourself from this form of tyranny without labeling yourself an atheist.

However, claiming to be an atheist is so absurd because one must reject the existence of any intelligence responsible for producing the orderliness of the physical universe and all of the life within it. The vast majority of rational and mentally sound people, throughout all of human history, have recognized the most basic fact that orderliness requires intelligent direction.

Due to the incredible magnitude and complexity of the orderliness so abundantly available for all to behold, rational and mentally healthy people readily accept the idea that some God-like form of intelligence must be responsible for producing and maintaining such an awesome display of empirical evidence. The atheist, however, believes that orderliness does not necessarily require intelligent direction and, of course, this false belief is both illogical and absurd.

False, illogical, and absurd beliefs naturally lead to mental disease and discord. All destructive behavior is the result of error or false beliefs. Mary Baker Eddy, founder of Christian Science, was heavily influenced by the teachings of Ralph Waldo Emerson who said, “The Devil is an Ass.” Eddy properly defined the Devil as Error or The False Idea.
We are each mentally diseased to the degree or extent that we entertain false or erroneous beliefs.

For thousands of years the Hindu have referred to this awesome form of God-like intelligence as Brahman which they believe is not only responsible for having created the universe and everything in it, but they also believe this Brahman occupies all space, simultaneously, making it omnipresent. They believe that Brahman is all that is, that everything consists of it, and that you and I are made of it totally and entirely, live within it, and we all create our experience with our thoughts and feelings which move us into action.

For thousands of years the Buddhists have referred to this all-pervading, omnipresent form of intelligence as Dharmakaya and they also believe that our experience is a direct reflection of our thoughts and feelings which move us into action. We are all creative beings, made entirely of this Divine omnipresent substance, and that our thoughts and feelings literally shape, fashion, and mold this divine substance into our experience for all to see. Our actions are a natural by product of our thoughts and feelings. Our most useful form of action is to seek the truth and carefully control our thoughts and feelings.

The Taoists refer to this divine, all-powerful, and omnipresent intelligence as the Tao. They believe that through awareness of this intelligence and the practice of virtuous living, being honest, kind, loving, etc., each individual will be led or guided, by their awesome intelligence, to their perfect path in life, their calling, their labor of love, which they also refer to as your Tao.

Jesus referred to this all-pervading and omnipresent God-like intelligence and power as The Kingdom of God, of which we are all made and within which we all live. Again and again, he taught that we can be, do, and have anything we believe we can be, do, and have. According to your faith, be it unto you was Jesus’ cornerstone teaching, along with the practice of being virtuous by loving God and one another.

Dr. Albert Einstein devoted the last 30 years of his life to his Theory of the Unified Field.
Einstein wanted to prove, mathematically, that everything is connected or unified, that all is one. Today, Harvard PhD quantum physicist Dr. John Hagelin has not only established the fact that Einstein was correct, but Hagelin has established the fact that everything is also intelligent, that this unified oneness is pure consciousness.

Each human being consists of approximately 50,000,000,000,000 (50 trillion) cells, each of which consists of millions of atoms, each of which consist of billions of even smaller sub-atomic particles or waves called super-strings. At the very center of each of these super-strings is the highest wisdom and power in the universe. Each of us is literally whole, perfect, strong, powerful, loving, harmonious, and happy. Each of us has everything we need within us already. We always have far more than enough wisdom and power within us to create anything and everything we could possibly imagine and believe to be possible.

Therefore, anyone calling themselves an atheist is clearly in error and is being an ass as Emerson would say. They are rejecting the existence of the very substance of which they consist, totally and entirely. In light of the facts, labeling yourself an atheist is perhaps the most erroneous and absurd thing you can possibly do.

I bless you all with love.

reply to post by bwinwright


Yeah, your post is the reason intelligent people question religion in the first place. I am not allowed to pursue a line of thinking that doesn't have a sky wizard in it without being Mentally Ill? please...

bwinwright
Those people who call themselves an atheist because they hate the abuses of organized religion are simply holding on to hatred that is robbing them of their peace. This is clearly a form of mental disease that can be minimized through forgiveness and education.

I'm an atheist, and not for those reasons.

I'm at peace. I try to do good things. I don't judge others' beliefs. I know the Bible well.

You're rant opens with assumptions that are wrong, hence the remaining premise is based on errant assumptions.

reply to post by bwinwright


Atheism doesn't produce mental illness. It is a product of free will and part of the great scheme of the universe and thus is necessary. To know what light is one must first recognize it from darkness. All are on their own spiritual path, we are not to interfere but rather to be there to assist should the time come when they tire of that particular path and seek further enlightenment.

So in other words we'll only experience true peace if we believe humans were magically created from a clod of dirt by some invisible guy up in the clouds? Right.

Have a happy zombie birthday.

Nowyouseeme
a sky wizard

Why toss around insults?

I want to challenge our members to stow their animosity for beliefs not their own in one area for one week: Religion.

This applies to the author of the opening post as well.

reply to post by bwinwright


I certainly disagree with this statement and i cant imagine how you can ignore your own words on how abusive religious organizations have been in the past up to today.

You are only continuing this line of abuse. Thanks for emboldening my opinion of the religiously minded.

reply to post by bwinwright


While organized religion has been one of the most corrupt and abusive forms of mind control in human history and responsible for the death and destruction of millions of people, you can separate yourself from this form of tyranny without labeling yourself an atheist.

Agreed...


I tend to view Atheists as the same as Zealots - neither has an open mind.


As to the rest of your OP - you have issues...but, you were able to hide that fact thru a succinctly written post.


Well done.

For all the right reasons, I want even begin to tell you how I feel about your OP. I really want to stay a member of the best site on the net,ATS..and in doing so I am gonna DENY SOME IGNORANCE.

reply to post by SkepticOverlord


Thank you SO.

I suppose this is a pretty good troll. There is a pretty substantial number of atheists who read and post to this site, and hey, who likes to be called mentally ill?

Of course, the OP's definitions are a bit fast and loose, but that's to be expected when you're just generalizing to get a rise out of people.

You have a misconstrued understanding of what atheism is. You state;

“one must reject the existence of any intelligence responsible for producing the orderliness of the physical universe and all of the life” - False, atheism is simply the rejection of the proposition “a God exists”. I am an atheist, and I would happily state “a creative force might exist; similar to that which you label God”. This does not mean I have to accept theistic claims.

And although I reject the proposition “a God exists”, it doesn’t mean I state that God doesn’t exist. We are evaluating your claim that he does, and I reject it. That’s what atheism is.

“orderliness requires intelligent direction” - that’s only if your ignore all the disorderliness inherent in the universe.

“God-like form of intelligence must be responsible” – I’m sorry. You are basically stating “my claim is true because if you can’t see that it is true then you’re an idiot”. You must provide evidence. At the moment you are just assuming your position.

“False, illogical, and absurd beliefs naturally lead to mental disease and discord.” – It’s lucky that atheism isn’t a belief then, isn’t it.

I think if you want to call out atheists, in which you have every right to do so, you should firstly understand what atheism is.

"Therefore, anyone calling themselves an atheist is clearly in error and is being an ass as Emerson would say."

Are you sure about that?

Ones method of approach can make the difference in whether you are successful or whether you fail. But that's the end of where order defines anything. Order is an illusion.

Using your own hodgepodge of definitions one can conclude that our reality is just a mystery that's too complex to try and understand or define.

Could it be that Athiests just want to accept this reality and want to renounce anyone or anything that claims to know the truth and thereby create some sort of order that everyone should live by.

I'm not an athiest, but I can see that anyone claiming to know exactly how things to work, and tries to get me to live by their rules is bearing false witness. Why would I want to concede to someone who claims to know things I know are false?

reply to post by bwinwright


"Those people who call themselves an atheist because they hate the abuses of organized religion are simply holding on to hatred that is robbing them of their peace. This is clearly a form of mental disease that can be minimized through forgiveness and education."


Hmm. I don't call myself an atheist because I hate the abuses of organised religion. I call myself an atheist because I do not believe in a 'God' figure. I do accept that I am made of the matter of the universe, however.

It's not clearly a form of mental disease, as it's not classified in the DSM-5 or ICD-10 (UK). If it were a form of mental disease, forgiveness and/or education wouldn't really be of help, would it?

But as it's Christmas, I'll send those blessings of Heathen love right back at ya! Merry Christmas!

reply to post by bwinwright


In the spirit of the season. I would like to invite the op to start over with something we can discuss.

There is no reason why we cant talk about somehing.

reply to post by SkepticOverlord


So it's ok for the OP to say that any one that doesn't believe in a sky wizard is mentally ill, but not ok to acknowledge that they believe in an invisible sky wizard with severe jealousy and insecurity issues who thrives on death and destruction.

K gotcha. Denying ignorance!

How many of you that call yourselves atheists accept the reality of psychic functioning? Y'know, ESP/remote viewing/mind-over-matter, etc. PSI.

Not many, I would wager. As a pattern of thought, atheism is not exactly open to parapsychology. Even though one does not need to reject parapsychological findings in order to be an atheist, in my experience most atheists do reject them.

That makes atheism a pattern of thought that is not conducive to psychic awareness.

Without psychic awareness, one is living in an illusion - a narrow reality tunnel. Living in a narrow illusion is not good for mental health.

reply to post by bwinwright


I do not feel robbed of anything and your post certainly does belong in the civil unrest category! Perhaps this is your "feels better" view of the whole thing? A way for your mind to put a band-aid on what you do not understand.
PS. I imagine Agnosticism must really through a wrench in your little theory.

In reading the whole post, it dives into a ton of different arenas. I dont think this is too far off base, honestly. However, I do not think atheism is the source or cause, but it is one of the ways a certain type of thinking can manifest. Though, to include all atheists into this would be erroneous.

I call this type of stance the "perpetual adversary." I am sure there are plenty of different terms for it, but I only speak about it from my perspective. For a time, this was exactly the stance that I took. I never really had much to say about myself, but I had plenty to say about how everybody was wrong about everything. Being that a very large portion of the population practice some form of spiritual belief, it was almost a given that I would start the carry the title of a militant atheist.

It was a position that I could take, logically, without actually exploring anything for myself. My "lack of belief" in what others believed allowed me to take a position where I defined myself through what I was not and the only way to practice this was to actively participate in discussions where I could tear apart others perspectives. Since I made no positive claim, I knew that I would never have to actually take a position other than the inverse of whatever was being claimed.

Once I started to focus on what/who I am, rather than what/who I am not I feel I started to make real progress with my life in general. So, in my experience, it definitely can be sourced in something that is essentially destructive. However, that does not mean that anyone with the title of atheist is acting with the same intent (thats important).

But, here is the most important part, the "perpetual adversary" can exist in ANY ideology and ANY individual perspective. It is absolutely not exclusive to atheism/theism. We see this in play in almost every topic in life, in the media, in the government, and even on this board. It is probably one of the biggest hindrances to all of our progress.

I think a much more relevant manifestation of it would be how willing people are to complain about everything, but never offer or participate in any real solutions not involving knee-jerk reactions. There are people calling for a violent revolution, right here and now, without having any plans to fix any of the problems that exist. That is much more dangerous than any sort of discussion on religion or spirituality.