Right-Wing Group Seeks Help Rewriting the Bible Because It's Not Conservative Enough

@ AfterInfinity ....''

they would be more inclined to swallow a customized and/or politically driven interpretation of scripture. '' --- OR they would apply the principle of ''if it aint broke, don't fix it'' and stick to their old versions. This new version sounds like some new brand of cola trying to compete against coca cola and pepsi. I doubt its going to be a big hit.

wildtimes
reply to post by sk0rpi0n

 

So its unlikely that this new version would change anything.

We can hope so. But there's always some 'extremist' who will try - who will use it to indoctrinate their own children, or, if in a position of clerical power, an entire congregation. Particularly those who fear "the fires of hell."

There's also a raging controversy right now about educational texts - which are ALSO under scrutiny and looking to be "excised" of secular science, and infused with "Religious Propaganda."

I can only say that eventually, there will be SO MANY VERSIONS that the entire thing becomes a laughing matter.
A relic of the past. (Which, in my mind, it already is...but not in the minds of everyone.)

I wonder if the Pastafarians have a "version"?

edit on 12/23/13 by wildtimes because: (no reason given)

It depends on whether you're referring to the Bigolians, the Bucatinians, the Capellinians, the Fusillians, the Spaghettians, the Fetuccinians, the Lasagnians, the Linguinians, the Stringozzians, the Macaronians, the Pennians, the Giglians, the Rotellians, the Rotinians, or the numerable other sects of Pastafarianism.

In my experience, they work quite well with each other in many cases, especially if you use the right sauce - I mean, the right blessing.

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I could only find "The Gospel of the FSM", by the 'revealer', Bobby Henderson.

It has a Disclaimer at the beginning that says:

While pasatafarianism is the only religion based on empirical science, it should also be noted that this is a faith-based book. Attentive readers will note numerous holes and contradictions through-out the text; they will even find blatant lies and exaggerations. These have been placed there to test the reader's faith.

kosciol-spaghetti.pl...

reply to post by wildtimes


But the thing is - In a free country, what's it to you?

Sure, you have your opinions of what's right and wrong, and they have theirs. But if some fringe group somewhere writes their own Bible and dances around with snakes ... so what? They aren't forcing you to do it.

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Quite.
I hear what you're saying. I was able to keep my kids away from it all, and now they're grown and not in the grips of any 'childhood indoctrination.'

My only concern is all the "shame and self-loathing" imposed on people by religion. Religion is for adults, not for little kids. And NOT ALL RELIGIONS impose "shame and self-loathing". Just want to make that loud and clear. NOT talking about all religious people. For many, it is a source of comfort and hope, which is fine. That's all it should be.

Peace

reply to post by wildtimes


And why are you qualified to make that call for everyone?

Here I am saying that what some groups choose to do religiously need not impact you at all, and here you are telling me that they have no right at all to raise their own children as they see fit.

Do you not see the problem here?

reply to post by ketsuko

Do you not see the problem here?

Yes, I see it. I have an extensive background (professional) in preventing child abuse and promoting mental health. Children & Families, to be precise. I've seen the effects of different "indoctrinations", all across the spectrum. If it damages or compromises a child's sense of empowerment, worth, and self-esteem, I have a problem with it, and it's my position that it needs to be addressed. So I address it.



Do you see a problem with speaking up to prevent child abuse and to promote mental health in this country?

@wildtimes...''Yes, I see it. I have an extensive background (professional) in preventing child abuse and promoting mental health.'' --- Is only this ''re-written'' Bible a threat to children / mental health? Or are the old ones also a threat? Because its starting to look like the old ''religion is a mental illness / threat'' canard.

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and here you are telling me that they have no right at all

That is NOT what I'm telling you, or anyone. Kindly don't put words in my mouth.

reply to post by sk0rpi0n

Is only this ''re-written'' Bible a threat to children / mental health? Or are the old ones also a threat? Because its starting to look like the old ''religion is a mental illness / threat'' canard.

My message is clear to anyone reading it. Child abuse is wrong, and mental health is a huge problem in this world. I address it, to the best of my ability, morality, and training.

People have been re-writing the Bible for over 2,000 years. It's a time-honored tradition. Thomas Jefferson even wrote his own Bible. Anyone would have to call it a "left-wing" Bible, so the fact that this particular Bible is labeled "right-wing" is really irrelevant unless you just want to vilify "right-wing." Of course, you already have, so you're not adding much new to the picture.

So let them do it. The Bible has a rich history of alternatives done by people who have yet another take on it. Big deal.

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People have been re-writing the Bible for over 2,000 years. It's a time-honored tradition.

Indeed. And where has that 're-writing' gotten us as a species? Overloaded with heartache, rancor, child abuse, hatred, oppression, and trouble. Not so keen.

ketsuko
reply to post by wildtimes

 

And why are you qualified to make that call for everyone?

Here I am saying that what some groups choose to do religiously need not impact you at all, and here you are telling me that they have no right at all to raise their own children as they see fit.

Do you not see the problem here?

Wild posted a thread not long ago on how some homes which place an emphasis on a religiously-mired upbringing end up damaging any children raised in that environment. That's not to say such environments are guaranteed to have that result - but it is certainly a sobering observation in regard to the realities of what could potentially arise given a particular approach to child-rearing.

@wildtimesness ... ''Child abuse is wrong, and mental health ...'' --- so thats the topic then? Its strange because when I first got here, your seemed concerned about some re-written bible and controlling and oppressing people and all of that.

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If you can't see the link between these things, I don't know what to tell you.

@wildtimes...''If you can't see the link between these things, I don't know what to tell you.'' --- No, I honestly thought this thread was going to be about some big bad re-written bible, as the thread title says. Had I known this was going to turn into (yet) another generic ''see how bad religion is'' thread, I really wouldn't have bothered with it.

Wildtimes, are you absolutely sure that this isn't an elaborate POE?

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BlueMule...
I had to look up POE, so as not to be confused...and got 54 different meanings of it from the dictionary.
Can you please be more specific?

wildtimes
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BlueMule...
I had to look up POE, so as not to be confused...and got 54 different meanings of it from the dictionary.
Can you please be more specific?

Sure. I'm referring to Poe's Law. It's a parody of a fundamentalist or conservative or extremist designed to make them look even more ridiculous than they already are.

en.wikipedia.org...

reply to post by BlueMule

Poe's law, in broader form, is:

Without a blatant display of humor, it is impossible to create a parody of extremism or fundamentalism that someone won't mistake for the real thing.[2]

The core of Poe's law is that a parody of something extreme by nature becomes impossible to differentiate from sincere extremism. A corollary of Poe's law is the reverse phenomenon: sincere fundamentalist beliefs can be mistaken for a parody of those beliefs.[2]

Could be, I guess!


Certainly the LOLcat one and the FSM version are parodies.